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PostPosted: Thu Sep 13, 2018 9:40 am    Post subject: EGR/Smog removal and subequent ignition timing Reply with quote

Hi

I have 1974 californian T2 Bay, 1800cc, twin carbs.

Engine no. is AW017287 and the engine decal says timing is 10 deg. ATDC (after TDC)

I have removed the entire EGR/Smog setup and blocked all the ports.

I have replaced the 009 mechanical distributor with a 034 centrifugal and vacuum advance electronic one.

My question - is the 10 deg. ATDC setting still relevant? How can I tell ?
I assume this is at idle (900 rpm) and no vacuum advance ?

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 13, 2018 10:35 am    Post subject: Re: EGR/Smog removal and subequent ignition timing Reply with quote

Is one of the carbs tapped to provide for the correct ported vacuum signature for the SVDA distributor? That needs to happen. I would plug the carbs "retard" port if it has one.

It will still get timed to 30º +/- 2º (vacuum hoses off and plugged) at about 3500 RPMs of whenever all of the centrifical advance the distributor has to offer is all in.

I would start at about 28º myself.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 13, 2018 12:01 pm    Post subject: Re: EGR/Smog removal and subequent ignition timing Reply with quote

You would only use the retard if your carb(s) were set up to offer a retard signal and that is unlikely. You would leave that side disconnected and only use the advance side after opening a ported vacuum source on the carb. Even so it won't work quite as well as with the carb it was designed to work with - but you will be happy with it.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 13, 2018 6:45 pm    Post subject: Re: EGR/Smog removal and subequent ignition timing Reply with quote

Tell us which dual carbs you have. Many of the dual Webers do not provide enough vacuum for an SVDA vacuum canister. They need a minimum of 200mm hg. to pull the advance fully.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 14, 2018 11:30 am    Post subject: Re: EGR/Smog removal and subequent ignition timing Reply with quote

Excellent, thanks guys.

I have the Solex 34 PDSIT 2/3 carbs, and the advance vacuum pipe connected to an open port on the left hand carb.

The 30 deg. advance at 3500 RPM - that is obv. before TDC. What would be sensible at 900 RPM idle?

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 14, 2018 4:55 pm    Post subject: Re: EGR/Smog removal and subequent ignition timing Reply with quote

Note but do not change it initial timing at correct idle speed of 850RPMs +/- 50.

It should be somewhat close to about 7.5º BTDC.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 14, 2018 5:07 pm    Post subject: Re: EGR/Smog removal and subequent ignition timing Reply with quote

ianthurlbeck wrote:
....The 30 deg. advance at 3500 RPM - that is obv. before TDC.........

That's hose off, you understand that, right?
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