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SnowySeal Samba Member
Joined: April 17, 2012 Posts: 10 Location: UK
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Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2018 9:40 am Post subject: EGR/Smog removal and subequent ignition timing |
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Hi
I have 1974 californian T2 Bay, 1800cc, twin carbs.
Engine no. is AW017287 and the engine decal says timing is 10 deg. ATDC (after TDC)
I have removed the entire EGR/Smog setup and blocked all the ports.
I have replaced the 009 mechanical distributor with a 034 centrifugal and vacuum advance electronic one.
My question - is the 10 deg. ATDC setting still relevant? How can I tell ?
I assume this is at idle (900 rpm) and no vacuum advance ?
Many thanks!
Ian |
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Randy in Maine Samba Member
Joined: August 03, 2003 Posts: 34890 Location: The Beach
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Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2018 10:35 am Post subject: Re: EGR/Smog removal and subequent ignition timing |
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Is one of the carbs tapped to provide for the correct ported vacuum signature for the SVDA distributor? That needs to happen. I would plug the carbs "retard" port if it has one.
It will still get timed to 30º +/- 2º (vacuum hoses off and plugged) at about 3500 RPMs of whenever all of the centrifical advance the distributor has to offer is all in.
I would start at about 28º myself. |
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SGKent Samba Member
Joined: October 30, 2007 Posts: 41031 Location: Citrus Heights CA (Near Sacramento)
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Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2018 12:01 pm Post subject: Re: EGR/Smog removal and subequent ignition timing |
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You would only use the retard if your carb(s) were set up to offer a retard signal and that is unlikely. You would leave that side disconnected and only use the advance side after opening a ported vacuum source on the carb. Even so it won't work quite as well as with the carb it was designed to work with - but you will be happy with it. _________________ “Most people don’t know what they’re doing, and a lot of them are really good at it.” - George Carlin |
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wcfvw69 Samba Purist
Joined: June 10, 2004 Posts: 13389 Location: Arizona
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Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2018 6:45 pm Post subject: Re: EGR/Smog removal and subequent ignition timing |
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Tell us which dual carbs you have. Many of the dual Webers do not provide enough vacuum for an SVDA vacuum canister. They need a minimum of 200mm hg. to pull the advance fully. _________________ Contact me at [email protected]
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SnowySeal Samba Member
Joined: April 17, 2012 Posts: 10 Location: UK
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Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2018 11:30 am Post subject: Re: EGR/Smog removal and subequent ignition timing |
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Excellent, thanks guys.
I have the Solex 34 PDSIT 2/3 carbs, and the advance vacuum pipe connected to an open port on the left hand carb.
The 30 deg. advance at 3500 RPM - that is obv. before TDC. What would be sensible at 900 RPM idle?
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Randy in Maine Samba Member
Joined: August 03, 2003 Posts: 34890 Location: The Beach
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Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2018 4:55 pm Post subject: Re: EGR/Smog removal and subequent ignition timing |
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Note but do not change it initial timing at correct idle speed of 850RPMs +/- 50.
It should be somewhat close to about 7.5º BTDC. |
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busdaddy Samba Member
Joined: February 12, 2004 Posts: 51124 Location: Surrey B.C. Canada, but thinking of Ukraine
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Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2018 5:07 pm Post subject: Re: EGR/Smog removal and subequent ignition timing |
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ianthurlbeck wrote: |
....The 30 deg. advance at 3500 RPM - that is obv. before TDC......... |
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