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Helfen
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Just read in the paper this morning the EPA is pushing congress for E15 to replace E10 gasoline. FYI, even my 2012 Nissan says not to use anything above E10 fuel.
FYI, NISSAN's Infinity Brand announced that by 2020 or 21 no more gasoline powered Infiniti's. |
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static
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| Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2018 10:28 am Post subject: Re: E15 |
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It's the other way around. Some rat-bastards from both sides of the aisle are pushing the EPA to "relax" standards. Follow the money.
https://riponadvance.com/stories/noem-house-collea...-e15-fuel/
(Those who are tempted to chime in with their hate for alcohol in fuel, please spare us: you're preaching to the choir) |
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vwracerdave
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| Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2018 11:01 am Post subject: Re: E15 |
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It's all politics. Take the money out of big oil corporations and put it into the pockets of the farmers. There is no science behind the reasoning for this.
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Frank Bassman
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| Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2018 9:13 pm Post subject: Re: E15 |
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No more gasoline Infinitis by 2021?
-Frank |
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Gary
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| Posted: Sat Sep 22, 2018 10:03 am Post subject: Re: E15 |
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No more gasoline Infinitis by 2021?
-Frank |
Many cities in Europe are passing laws where ICE vehicles will be banned. Remember when people said horses would never be replaced by cars? It's interesting how history repeats itself and the roles of the players are shifted.
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notchback
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| Posted: Sat Sep 22, 2018 10:42 am Post subject: Re: E15 |
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| Frank Bassman wrote: |
No more gasoline Infinitis by 2021?
-Frank |
Yes, they were all built with an expiration date. People need to read the fine print.
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Helfen
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Location: Vulcania
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| Posted: Sun Sep 23, 2018 9:22 pm Post subject: Re: E15 |
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| Gary wrote: |
| Frank Bassman wrote: |
No more gasoline Infinitis by 2021?
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Many cities in Europe are passing laws where ICE vehicles will be banned. Remember when people said horses would never be replaced by cars? It's interesting how history repeats itself and the roles of the players are shifted. |
Porsche will stop offering diesel versions of its cars to sharpen its focus on hybrid and battery-powered vehicles, announced chief executive Oliver Blume.
Even RUF is building a electric sports car. They see the writing on the wall that the days of the internal combustion engine in Europe whether gas or diesel will be over soon. |
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iowegian 
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| Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2018 9:36 am Post subject: Re: E15 |
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| Helfen wrote: |
| Gary wrote: |
| Frank Bassman wrote: |
No more gasoline Infinitis by 2021?
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Many cities in Europe are passing laws where ICE vehicles will be banned. Remember when people said horses would never be replaced by cars? It's interesting how history repeats itself and the roles of the players are shifted. |
Porsche will stop offering diesel versions of its cars to sharpen its focus on hybrid and battery-powered vehicles, announced chief executive Oliver Blume.
Even RUF is building a electric sports car. They see the writing on the wall that the days of the internal combustion engine in Europe whether gas or diesel will be over soon. |
I'll bet an electric Ferrari is gonna sound sa-weet. |
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Bob Loblaw
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| Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2018 9:04 am Post subject: Re: E15 |
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gasoline Infinitis
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At first, I though you were speaking Latin.
Or maybe a Harry Potter thing.
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doregan
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| Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2018 9:43 am Post subject: Re: E15 |
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| You can make an EV sound anyway you want. The new Infinitis will have external speaker options from such suppliers as Polk, Klipsch, and Bose and a equalizer software to make the EV sound like a Harley or a Beetle. |
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Mos6502
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| Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2018 4:08 am Post subject: Re: E15 |
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Just going to convert to E85 and be ahead of the curve already.
For the story at hand, all I've read says they want to allow the sale of E15 year round - which means that it would just be sold in areas where it is already sold, except it would be available for the whole year, instead of seasonally. If your station doesn't already sell E15, it probably isn't going to start to. |
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oprn
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| Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2018 4:32 am Post subject: Re: E15 |
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| Pardon my ignorance guys but what the heck is E15? Ethanol? And why is it a seasonal fuel? |
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Q-Dog
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sb001
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| Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2018 5:50 am Post subject: Re: E15 |
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| You can make an EV sound anyway you want. The new Infinitis will have external speaker options from such suppliers as Polk, Klipsch, and Bose and a equalizer software to make the EV sound like a Harley or a Beetle. |
Honda's already doing this with their 3rd gen Insight. Most reviews say they do not care for it (the artificial sound, not the car)
Around 22:40 in the video below
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sb001
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| Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2018 5:51 am Post subject: Re: E15 |
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| Pardon my ignorance guys but what the heck is E15? Ethanol? And why is it a seasonal fuel? |
15% ethanol instead of the normal 10%
So govt can subsidize farmers even more
All farmers are billonaires
Why hate getting gas in Iowa
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Mos6502
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| Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2018 12:24 pm Post subject: Re: E15 |
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| Pardon my ignorance guys but what the heck is E15? Ethanol? And why is it a seasonal fuel? |
It's seasonal for environmental reasons, in the hottest summer months too much of the alcohol evaporates, which according to the EPA contributes to smog: https://www.epa.gov/gasoline-standards/gasoline-reid-vapor-pressure
Don't ask me why E85 gets a pass (maybe because it doesn't count as gasoline, I guess?) but E15 doesn't. In any event, E15 is not widely sold, so it's sort of a moot point. |
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oprn
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| Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2018 4:03 pm Post subject: Re: E15 |
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| I have never seen any of those "E" fuels here where we live! Maybe in eastern Canada? |
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Mike Fisher
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| Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2018 5:15 pm Post subject: Re: E15 |
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The price of chicken feed Doubled when they started using corn for fuel!
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