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Bill Bug Samba Member
Joined: April 08, 2017 Posts: 75 Location: Alamogotdo, NM
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Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2018 1:06 pm Post subject: Front end rebuild. |
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If you were doing a frame off restoration of a 1970 bug.
Which front suspension parts would you replace?
And a month from now, I'll be asking which rear end parts would you replace. |
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zmichael84 Samba Member
Joined: October 24, 2016 Posts: 129 Location: Murrieta, CA
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Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2018 1:23 pm Post subject: Re: Front end rebuild. |
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All of it! Or, inspect what you've got, then replace accordingly. But, most likely will be:
Upper & Lower Ball Joints
Inner & Outer Tie Rod Ends
Steering Damper
Shocks
Sway Bar Bushings
Inspect Torsion Arms for cracks/damage/wear
Inspect Spindles for cracks/damage/wear
Inspect Wheel Bearings, or just replace.
Inspect Front Beam Bushings for dry/cracked/torn
Clean, Inspect, Re-Grease front beam |
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Bill Bug Samba Member
Joined: April 08, 2017 Posts: 75 Location: Alamogotdo, NM
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Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2018 2:45 pm Post subject: Re: Front end rebuild. |
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I meant to post these earlier.
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Bill Bug Samba Member
Joined: April 08, 2017 Posts: 75 Location: Alamogotdo, NM
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Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2018 3:25 pm Post subject: Re: Front end rebuild. |
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I was thinking about rebuilding as much as I can before welding on pans...Is that a good idea? |
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Bill Bug Samba Member
Joined: April 08, 2017 Posts: 75 Location: Alamogotdo, NM
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Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2018 3:26 pm Post subject: Re: Front end rebuild. |
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zmichael84 wrote: |
All of it! Or, inspect what you've got, then replace accordingly. But, most likely will be:
Upper & Lower Ball Joints
Inner & Outer Tie Rod Ends
Steering Damper
Shocks
Sway Bar Bushings
Inspect Torsion Arms for cracks/damage/wear
Inspect Spindles for cracks/damage/wear
Inspect Wheel Bearings, or just replace.
Inspect Front Beam Bushings for dry/cracked/torn
Clean, Inspect, Re-Grease front beam |
Thanks... $500 order. Not too bad! |
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TX-73 Samba Member
Joined: January 04, 2013 Posts: 1133 Location: Texas
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Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2018 6:12 pm Post subject: Re: Front end rebuild. |
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Just my perspective but for me I wanted every tired old component to be replaced for a complete restoration. I wanted a "new" bug when I was done. So every wear part on front and rear suspension got replaced. I only wanted to do it once. I'll admit thpugh that I did leave the rear control arm bushings and of course I would up coming back to do them. Happens every time I cut a corner....
I've also found that marginal parts may be ok combined with other marginal parts but when new parts are installed those marginal parts don't work that great anymore.
Anyway your thoughts may differ - just my comment based on buildimg a number of frame offs. _________________ My 1973 Standard Beetle Build SOLD
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VW_Jimbo Samba Member
Joined: May 22, 2016 Posts: 9967 Location: Huntington Beach, CA
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Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2018 6:36 pm Post subject: Re: Front end rebuild. |
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TX-73 wrote: |
Just my perspective but for me I wanted every tired old component to be replaced for a complete restoration. I wanted a "new" bug when I was done. So every wear part on front and rear suspension got replaced. I only wanted to do it once. I'll admit thpugh that I did leave the rear control arm bushings and of course I would up coming back to do them. Happens every time I cut a corner....
I've also found that marginal parts may be ok combined with other marginal parts but when new parts are installed those marginal parts don't work that great anymore.
Anyway your thoughts may differ - just my comment based on buildimg a number of frame offs. |
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wcfvw69 Samba Purist
Joined: June 10, 2004 Posts: 13389 Location: Arizona
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Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2018 8:26 pm Post subject: Re: Front end rebuild. |
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I'll throw a wrench in your thoughts.
Only replace what's worn or out of spec. Understand that most aftermarket parts are nowhere near the quality of the original VW parts. My 67 bug has roughly 160k miles on it. The ball joints were worn too much and they were replaced with the highest quality joints I could find at the time. Replacing the steering damper is usually needed too. All four tie rods on this bug are original to the car. No play at all. All have the VW logo on them with perfect boots. I'll run them until they show play. _________________ Contact me at [email protected]
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Bill Bug Samba Member
Joined: April 08, 2017 Posts: 75 Location: Alamogotdo, NM
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Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2018 8:22 pm Post subject: Re: Front end rebuild. |
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Thanks again for all the input.
If I remember correctly you guys recommend urethane seals/bushings? |
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VW_Jimbo Samba Member
Joined: May 22, 2016 Posts: 9967 Location: Huntington Beach, CA
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Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2018 10:52 pm Post subject: Re: Front end rebuild. |
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Bill Bug wrote: |
Thanks again for all the input.
If I remember correctly you guys recommend urethane seals/bushings? |
I do not! Opposed, vehemently! Well, unless you like, squeak, squeak, squeaky, squeak, squeak! Then repeat for the remainder of the drive!
Urethane is not meant to be used as a bearing surface. Just saying. _________________ Jimbo
There is never enough time to do it right the first time, but all the time necessary the second time!
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67rustavenger wrote: |
GFY's Xevin and VW_Jimbo! |
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Bill Bug Samba Member
Joined: April 08, 2017 Posts: 75 Location: Alamogotdo, NM
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Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2018 5:18 pm Post subject: Re: Front end rebuild. |
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VW_Jimbo wrote: |
Urethane is not meant to be used as a bearing surface. Just saying. |
Copy. |
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