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i_luv_my_bus76 Samba Member
Joined: May 18, 2012 Posts: 371 Location: High Desert
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Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2018 4:44 pm Post subject: This door...or hinge...or both |
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I bought a fastback...
When I went to look at it I realized it need work, nothing that I can't do (i have 2 bugs and a bus that I work on). When I paid for the fastback both doors opened perfectly. Then I had it towed to my house and there it sat.
When I finally got around to tinkering with it the drivers door wouldn't open. I pulled on it a few times real hard and this happened
I removed the fender so I could open the door. I have a spare door but can't get the hinge screws out...I've put a torch to them and and impact screw driver, I've soaked them overnight in PB blaster, my next resort is drilling the screws out and using an extractor to remove what's left.
Here are some more pics...I suspect the bottom hinge is the.culprit and needs to be smacked square again, but I'm open to opinion, advice, and suggestions
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Mike Fisher Samba Member
Joined: January 30, 2006 Posts: 17970 Location: Eugene, OR
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Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2018 4:54 pm Post subject: Re: This door...or hinge...or both |
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I use a #4 (Craftsman) Phillips bit on a 1/2" breaker bar w/extension & lots of pressure on the Phillips head bolts.
If you strip out the Phillips head then you have to use the proper size Easy Out with its enclosed drill bit. _________________ https://imgur.com/user/FisherSquareback/posts
69 FI/AT square Daily Driver
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i_luv_my_bus76 Samba Member
Joined: May 18, 2012 Posts: 371 Location: High Desert
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Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2018 5:02 pm Post subject: Re: This door...or hinge...or both |
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Mike Fisher wrote: |
I use a #4 (Craftsman) Phillips bit on a 1/2" breaker bar w/extension & lots of pressure on the Phillips head bolts.
If you strip out the Phillips head then you have to use the proper size Easy Out with its enclosed drill bit. |
I tried that as well in conjunction with a torch...frozen
The heads aren't rounded...just sealed in place with rust and coats on top of coats of paint |
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Mike Fisher Samba Member
Joined: January 30, 2006 Posts: 17970 Location: Eugene, OR
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Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2018 5:27 pm Post subject: Re: This door...or hinge...or both |
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You're using a puny/short 3/8" drive. 1/2" drive breaker bar w/1/2" to 3/8" adaptor is twice as long with twice the power. _________________ https://imgur.com/user/FisherSquareback/posts
69 FI/AT square Daily Driver
66 sunroof,67,70,71,71,71AT,72,72AT,73 Parts
two 57 oval ragtops sold
'68 Karmann Ghia sold
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i_luv_my_bus76 Samba Member
Joined: May 18, 2012 Posts: 371 Location: High Desert
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Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2018 5:41 pm Post subject: Re: This door...or hinge...or both |
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Mike Fisher wrote: |
You're using a puny/short 3/8" drive. 1/2" drive breaker bar w/1/2" to 3/8" adaptor is twice as long with twice the power. |
They are both 1/2" dude... the second one is as long as a breaker bar if not longer and I slid a pipe over the handle as well...I can hold a ruler or measuring tape up it if that helps |
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ataraxia Samba Member
Joined: March 19, 2010 Posts: 4504 Location: Illinois
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Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2018 6:07 pm Post subject: Re: This door...or hinge...or both |
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I had a late car that I parted out and the hinges/doors were stuck - used an impact screwdriver set and they came out.
I'd spray that down with Fluid Film - let it sit for a day or two, spray it on both sides (front and back of screws) again and then use the impact screwdriver.
Home Depot has an impact screwdriver set for about $20. Fluid Film works great but it takes a while to seep into some places. |
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i_luv_my_bus76 Samba Member
Joined: May 18, 2012 Posts: 371 Location: High Desert
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Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2018 7:40 pm Post subject: Re: This door...or hinge...or both |
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ataraxia wrote: |
I had a late car that I parted out and the hinges/doors were stuck - used an impact screwdriver set and they came out.
I'd spray that down with Fluid Film - let it sit for a day or two, spray it on both sides (front and back of screws) again and then use the impact screwdriver.
Home Depot has an impact screwdriver set for about $20. Fluid Film works great but it takes a while to seep into some places. |
I tried an impact screwdriver but it seemed like mine wasn't preforming as it should...I will try a new one and the liquid film penetrant over the weekend
Thank you for the suggestion |
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Bobnotch Samba Member
Joined: July 06, 2003 Posts: 22425 Location: Kimball, Mi
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Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2018 12:20 pm Post subject: Re: This door...or hinge...or both |
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Yup, lower hinge mount is bent, and the hinges are rusted,causing the large door dent.
What kind of torch did you use? You need an oxy torch, and get those screw heads red hot. Then hit it with your impact driver. If you strip the center out, then it's drill time. Most times IF you get them hot enough, they'll come right out. _________________ Bob 65 Notch S with Sunroof
71 Notch ...aka Krunchy; build pics here;
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=249390 -been busy working
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"Friends are God's way of apologizing for relatives." |
Tram wrote: |
People keep confusing "restored" and "restroyed". |
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i_luv_my_bus76 Samba Member
Joined: May 18, 2012 Posts: 371 Location: High Desert
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Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2018 9:40 pm Post subject: Re: This door...or hinge...or both |
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For those still interested here is an update
I bought a 1/2 electric (plugs into wall) impact gun and some mapp gas. I was able to bust the hinge screws loose. I straightened the bottom mount out and here is the finished product
Door shuts nicely and isn't sagging anymore |
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old_man Samba Member
Joined: June 19, 2018 Posts: 1381 Location: Newfoundland
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Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2018 5:55 am Post subject: Re: This door...or hinge...or both |
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Well done. Electric impact guns are such amazing things. |
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i_luv_my_bus76 Samba Member
Joined: May 18, 2012 Posts: 371 Location: High Desert
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Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2018 6:27 am Post subject: Re: This door...or hinge...or both |
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old_man wrote: |
Well done. Electric impact guns are such amazing things. |
Thank you! And indeed they are |
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Bobnotch Samba Member
Joined: July 06, 2003 Posts: 22425 Location: Kimball, Mi
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i_luv_my_bus76 Samba Member
Joined: May 18, 2012 Posts: 371 Location: High Desert
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Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2018 3:31 pm Post subject: Re: This door...or hinge...or both |
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Bobnotch wrote: |
Congrats on getting it done. |
Thank you greatly |
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