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PostPosted: Fri Dec 13, 2024 6:44 am    Post subject: Re: Battery size for a '67 Bug other than Group 42? Reply with quote

DerrickfromNC1 wrote:

https://www.ruralking.com/rural-king-classic-battery-26-60

I have these group 26 batteries in my 73 Thing, 67 bus, and 67 beetle.

You mean: 26R
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 12, 2024 10:58 pm    Post subject: Re: Battery size for a '67 Bug other than Group 42? Reply with quote

That positive terminal looks to sit pretty high with no protector over it…?
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 12, 2024 7:55 pm    Post subject: Re: Battery size for a '67 Bug other than Group 42? Reply with quote

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https://www.ruralking.com/rural-king-classic-battery-26-60

I have these group 26 batteries in my 73 Thing, 67 bus, and 67 beetle. Basically same battery with identical specs as sold by Autozone….$59 plus exchange. Purchased from Rural King.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 03, 2024 7:18 pm    Post subject: Wet Lead / Acid Batteries Reply with quote

Yes, they're still selling them dry for Motocycles, fresh acid is always as close as the local Motocycle shop .

Dry they last for decades .

It's never a good idea to put a new battery into service without trickle charging it overnight .
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 03, 2024 5:41 pm    Post subject: Re: Battery size for a '67 Bug other than Group 42? Reply with quote

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It was a translucent white (cf to the originally fitted black VW) Group 42 battery but came dry. That is, you bought the battery and they gave you a bottle of acid which you then had to dispense accurately into each of the cells.

Maybe in Australia, I don't think USA would've permitted adding concentrated sulfuric acid to each cell, here they try to protect us from stuff which is even very unlikely to happen....


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PostPosted: Tue Dec 03, 2024 5:13 pm    Post subject: Re: Battery size for a '67 Bug other than Group 42? Reply with quote

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It was a translucent white (cf to the originally fitted black VW) Group 42 battery but came dry. That is, you bought the battery and they gave you a bottle of acid which you then had to dispense accurately into each of the cells.

Maybe in Australia, I don't think USA would've permitted adding concentrated sulfuric acid to each cell, here they try to protect us from stuff which is even very unlikely to happen....
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 03, 2024 2:37 pm    Post subject: Re: Battery size for a '67 Bug other than Group 42? Reply with quote

As a bit of an aside I can remember vividly in the early 70's when my Father bought a replacement battery for his 68 as a VW spare part. He liked keeping it stock. Very Happy

It was a translucent white (cf to the originally fitted black VW) Group 42 battery but came dry. That is, you bought the battery and they gave you a bottle of acid which you then had to dispense accurately into each of the cells. He got a bit of a surprise with that and wasn't sure it would work. I think it was a Bosch.

However the battery required no charge after the addition of the acid and by the following morning was fully charged and ready to go.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 03, 2024 10:35 am    Post subject: Re: Battery size for a '67 Bug other than Group 42? Reply with quote

Odd, I cam here to see the newest response and the sire says this thread no longer exists....

IIRC there's a BMW car battery that's the right size and even comes with the plastic safety cover.....
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 02, 2024 7:40 pm    Post subject: Re: Battery size for a '67 Bug other than Group 42? Reply with quote

https://www.walmart.com/ip/EverStart-Value-Lead-Ac...om=/search
The 26R=reversed terminals which is what we need-almost ordered the regular 26 on accident
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 17, 2024 1:54 pm    Post subject: Re: Battery size for a '67 Bug other than Group 42? Reply with quote

I use a group 90 (T5) battery for my 67 which originally comes in Ford Fusions, and it works flawlessly. Also got some battery terminal covers from Amazon which takes care of any possible contact with the seat springs. A top post is always better than a side post battery and a 90 group has more CCA than a 96R or a 42.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 17, 2024 12:41 pm    Post subject: Re: Battery size for a '67 Bug other than Group 42? Reply with quote

Rule of thumb for the most powerful batteries...size matters
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 16, 2024 1:50 pm    Post subject: Re: Battery size for a '67 Bug other than Group 42? Reply with quote

Just replaced my 11 year old Group 42 with a Group 96R from WalMart, perfect fit and at $107 very affordable.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 16, 2024 9:23 am    Post subject: 12 Volt Battery Other Than BCI Group 42? Reply with quote

What a great thread .

I wish they'd make a dedicated 6 volt VW AGM battery, I like to use the stock battery cover and hold down .

For those who have old Beetles with random batteries, the simple solution is a beefy rubber floor mat ~ you pinch it between the lower rear seat cushion and the metal bar that holds the seat cushion in place, it'll never allow the seat springs to touch the battery no matter how fat your passengers are .

Nice to see the numerous different BCI numbers that can be used in a pinch .
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 15, 2024 3:34 pm    Post subject: Re: Battery size for a '67 Bug other than Group 42? Reply with quote

I needed a battery for my '66 bus recently and couldn't find anything cheaper than $190, ouch.

I went with a Napa brand BCI no. 35 for $130. The width and depth is the same, but the height is a little more no problem on a bus though.

https://www.napaonline.com/en/p/BAT6535?bvnotifica.../269099294
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 24, 2022 11:41 pm    Post subject: Re: Battery size for a '67 Bug other than Group 42? Reply with quote

I'm thinking a Group 75 battery might be persuaded to fit without much trouble.

It has side posts only that would avoid most seat spring issues and it is only a 1/8" wider.
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I'm sure some folks here must be running these, or even the longer Group 78.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 18, 2022 9:26 am    Post subject: Re: Battery size for a '67 Bug other than Group 42? Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 24, 2022 1:37 pm    Post subject: Re: Battery size for a '67 Bug other than Group 42? Reply with quote

60BeetleBill wrote:
"horse-hair precipitation"


FYI that is not hair, but instead coconut coir. A spray can of upholstery glue would probably do a better job.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 24, 2022 12:55 pm    Post subject: Re: Battery size for a '67 Bug other than Group 42? Reply with quote

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I don't know if it would prevent battery shorting, but to prevent "horse-hair precipitation" I've gone and sprayed rubberized undercoating on the underside of my bugs' back seats. It is to seal in the padding, but you can't do it without coating the metal springs as well.


The hair collecting under the back seat drives me crazy also. To remedy this I've taken an old sheet and hot glue gunned it to the bottom side and trimmed the excess. You can't see it at all when the seat bottom is installed. Works great![/quote]

Good thinking! But is the fabric an additional fire hazard should there be a spark?
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 11, 2022 3:06 am    Post subject: Re: Battery size for a '67 Bug other than Group 42? Reply with quote

I posted earlier in this subject (above) that a group 58 battery would fit. I meant a group 58R battery.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 10, 2022 6:48 pm    Post subject: Re: Battery size for a '67 Bug other than Group 42? Reply with quote

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Batteries cost a fortune these days. Something like 85% of the batteries sold in USA are made by Johnson Controls.

I use the 42 battery from Autozone.

VERY important to secure the battery to the pan, to preserve lifetime of the battery.


Since this post in 2018, I have adapted my opinion. Due to battery costs.


Alternate battery sizes batteries instead of Group 42: 96R and 47/H5 even have recessed terminals, which is a bonus on our cars (96R includes a cover as well) 24F is said to work but I have no first-hand experience with those.

I now have 26R from Walmart in my 1970, more CCA than the Group 42 too. And less expensive.

Whatever battery you choose: Make sure battery is secured to the pan, and that there is insulation between positive terminal and the rear seat, just so a passenger doesn't press the seat down far enough to short out the battery.
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