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Cusser Samba Member

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House Minutia Militia

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Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2024 10:58 pm Post subject: Re: Battery size for a '67 Bug other than Group 42? |
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That positive terminal looks to sit pretty high with no protector over it…? |
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DerrickfromNC1 Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2024 7:55 pm Post subject: Re: Battery size for a '67 Bug other than Group 42? |
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https://www.ruralking.com/rural-king-classic-battery-26-60
I have these group 26 batteries in my 73 Thing, 67 bus, and 67 beetle. Basically same battery with identical specs as sold by Autozone….$59 plus exchange. Purchased from Rural King. |
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VWNate Samba Member

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Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2024 7:18 pm Post subject: Wet Lead / Acid Batteries |
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Yes, they're still selling them dry for Motocycles, fresh acid is always as close as the local Motocycle shop .
Dry they last for decades .
It's never a good idea to put a new battery into service without trickle charging it overnight . _________________ -Nate
One last Beetle : 1959 #113 DeLuxe survivor ~ 36HP & full synchro tranny, 6 volts etc. |
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viiking Samba Member
Joined: May 10, 2013 Posts: 3008 Location: Sydney Australia
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Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2024 5:41 pm Post subject: Re: Battery size for a '67 Bug other than Group 42? |
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Cusser wrote: |
viiking wrote: |
It was a translucent white (cf to the originally fitted black VW) Group 42 battery but came dry. That is, you bought the battery and they gave you a bottle of acid which you then had to dispense accurately into each of the cells. |
Maybe in Australia, I don't think USA would've permitted adding concentrated sulfuric acid to each cell, here they try to protect us from stuff which is even very unlikely to happen.... |
Yes it's a litigious society we live in.
I'm just waiting for the signs that they might put in trains....
"Danger. Do not jump out of a speeding train. It may be harmful for your health (in California at least)." _________________ 1968 1500 RHD Lotus White Beetle since birth. In the hospital for major surgery
1966 Lancia Flavia Pininfarina Coupe - in the waiting room
Discharged: 1983 Vanagon, 1974 1800 Microbus,1968 Low Light,1968 Type 3 |
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Cusser Samba Member

Joined: October 02, 2006 Posts: 32487 Location: Hot Arizona
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Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2024 5:13 pm Post subject: Re: Battery size for a '67 Bug other than Group 42? |
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viiking wrote: |
It was a translucent white (cf to the originally fitted black VW) Group 42 battery but came dry. That is, you bought the battery and they gave you a bottle of acid which you then had to dispense accurately into each of the cells. |
Maybe in Australia, I don't think USA would've permitted adding concentrated sulfuric acid to each cell, here they try to protect us from stuff which is even very unlikely to happen.... _________________ 1970 VW (owned since 1972) and 1971 VW Convertible (owned since 1976), second owner of each. The '71 now has the 1835 engine, swapped from the '70. Second owner of each. 1988 Mazda B2200 truck, 1998 Frontier, 2014 Yukon, 2004 Frontier King Cab. All manual transmission except for the Yukon. http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=335294 http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=335297 |
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viiking Samba Member
Joined: May 10, 2013 Posts: 3008 Location: Sydney Australia
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Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2024 2:37 pm Post subject: Re: Battery size for a '67 Bug other than Group 42? |
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As a bit of an aside I can remember vividly in the early 70's when my Father bought a replacement battery for his 68 as a VW spare part. He liked keeping it stock.
It was a translucent white (cf to the originally fitted black VW) Group 42 battery but came dry. That is, you bought the battery and they gave you a bottle of acid which you then had to dispense accurately into each of the cells. He got a bit of a surprise with that and wasn't sure it would work. I think it was a Bosch.
However the battery required no charge after the addition of the acid and by the following morning was fully charged and ready to go. _________________ 1968 1500 RHD Lotus White Beetle since birth. In the hospital for major surgery
1966 Lancia Flavia Pininfarina Coupe - in the waiting room
Discharged: 1983 Vanagon, 1974 1800 Microbus,1968 Low Light,1968 Type 3 |
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VWNate Samba Member

Joined: October 04, 2016 Posts: 428 Location: Sunny So. Cal.
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Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2024 10:35 am Post subject: Re: Battery size for a '67 Bug other than Group 42? |
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Odd, I cam here to see the newest response and the sire says this thread no longer exists....
IIRC there's a BMW car battery that's the right size and even comes with the plastic safety cover..... _________________ -Nate
One last Beetle : 1959 #113 DeLuxe survivor ~ 36HP & full synchro tranny, 6 volts etc. |
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THINGONER Samba Member
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1967VWS4LIFE Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2024 1:54 pm Post subject: Re: Battery size for a '67 Bug other than Group 42? |
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I use a group 90 (T5) battery for my 67 which originally comes in Ford Fusions, and it works flawlessly. Also got some battery terminal covers from Amazon which takes care of any possible contact with the seat springs. A top post is always better than a side post battery and a 90 group has more CCA than a 96R or a 42. _________________ Restored Sea Blue 67 A/C bug |
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runamoc  Samba Member

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Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2024 12:41 pm Post subject: Re: Battery size for a '67 Bug other than Group 42? |
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Rule of thumb for the most powerful batteries...size matters _________________ Daily driver: '69 Baja owned 44 yrs - Plan B: '81 Rabbit Diesel LS Deluxe - Plan C: '72 Ghia
Yard Art: 2 Sandrails
Outback: '69 Ghia - '68,'69,'70,'72 Beetle - '84 Scirocco, GTI - Pair of '02 Golfs-
VW Wiring = It's just wires |
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JZ8G00 Samba Member

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Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2024 1:50 pm Post subject: Re: Battery size for a '67 Bug other than Group 42? |
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Just replaced my 11 year old Group 42 with a Group 96R from WalMart, perfect fit and at $107 very affordable. _________________ 1974 Super, Purchased March, 2012, Second Owner |
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VWNate Samba Member

Joined: October 04, 2016 Posts: 428 Location: Sunny So. Cal.
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Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2024 9:23 am Post subject: 12 Volt Battery Other Than BCI Group 42? |
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What a great thread .
I wish they'd make a dedicated 6 volt VW AGM battery, I like to use the stock battery cover and hold down .
For those who have old Beetles with random batteries, the simple solution is a beefy rubber floor mat ~ you pinch it between the lower rear seat cushion and the metal bar that holds the seat cushion in place, it'll never allow the seat springs to touch the battery no matter how fat your passengers are .
Nice to see the numerous different BCI numbers that can be used in a pinch . _________________ -Nate
One last Beetle : 1959 #113 DeLuxe survivor ~ 36HP & full synchro tranny, 6 volts etc. |
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Jade Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2024 3:34 pm Post subject: Re: Battery size for a '67 Bug other than Group 42? |
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I needed a battery for my '66 bus recently and couldn't find anything cheaper than $190, ouch.
I went with a Napa brand BCI no. 35 for $130. The width and depth is the same, but the height is a little more no problem on a bus though.
https://www.napaonline.com/en/p/BAT6535?bvnotifica.../269099294 _________________ '66 11 window |
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DeathRay64 Samba Member

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Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2022 11:41 pm Post subject: Re: Battery size for a '67 Bug other than Group 42? |
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I'm thinking a Group 75 battery might be persuaded to fit without much trouble.
It has side posts only that would avoid most seat spring issues and it is only a 1/8" wider.
I'm sure some folks here must be running these, or even the longer Group 78. _________________ Making VW's and America great again. |
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Wayne S. Johnson Samba Member

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Eric&Barb Samba Member

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Posted: Sat Sep 24, 2022 1:37 pm Post subject: Re: Battery size for a '67 Bug other than Group 42? |
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60BeetleBill wrote: |
"horse-hair precipitation" |
FYI that is not hair, but instead coconut coir. A spray can of upholstery glue would probably do a better job. _________________ In Stereo, Where Available! |
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Combi Cat Samba Member
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Posted: Sat Sep 24, 2022 12:55 pm Post subject: Re: Battery size for a '67 Bug other than Group 42? |
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60BeetleBill wrote: |
I don't know if it would prevent battery shorting, but to prevent "horse-hair precipitation" I've gone and sprayed rubberized undercoating on the underside of my bugs' back seats. It is to seal in the padding, but you can't do it without coating the metal springs as well. |
The hair collecting under the back seat drives me crazy also. To remedy this I've taken an old sheet and hot glue gunned it to the bottom side and trimmed the excess. You can't see it at all when the seat bottom is installed. Works great![/quote]
Good thinking! But is the fabric an additional fire hazard should there be a spark? |
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davidw99 Samba Member

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Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2022 3:06 am Post subject: Re: Battery size for a '67 Bug other than Group 42? |
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I posted earlier in this subject (above) that a group 58 battery would fit. I meant a group 58R battery. _________________ Dave
'73 Saturn Yellow Sports Bug that has undergone a full pan off restoration. "Herbert IV."
'67 Sedan. "Bellamy." Currently being "refreshed" and recently repainted. |
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Cusser Samba Member

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Posted: Sun Jul 10, 2022 6:48 pm Post subject: Re: Battery size for a '67 Bug other than Group 42? |
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Cusser wrote: |
Batteries cost a fortune these days. Something like 85% of the batteries sold in USA are made by Johnson Controls.
I use the 42 battery from Autozone.
VERY important to secure the battery to the pan, to preserve lifetime of the battery. |
Since this post in 2018, I have adapted my opinion. Due to battery costs.
Alternate battery sizes batteries instead of Group 42: 96R and 47/H5 even have recessed terminals, which is a bonus on our cars (96R includes a cover as well) 24F is said to work but I have no first-hand experience with those.
I now have 26R from Walmart in my 1970, more CCA than the Group 42 too. And less expensive.
Whatever battery you choose: Make sure battery is secured to the pan, and that there is insulation between positive terminal and the rear seat, just so a passenger doesn't press the seat down far enough to short out the battery. _________________ 1970 VW (owned since 1972) and 1971 VW Convertible (owned since 1976), second owner of each. The '71 now has the 1835 engine, swapped from the '70. Second owner of each. 1988 Mazda B2200 truck, 1998 Frontier, 2014 Yukon, 2004 Frontier King Cab. All manual transmission except for the Yukon. http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=335294 http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=335297 |
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