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VOLKSWAGNUT
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 Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2018 12:46 pm Post subject: Re: Battery size for a '67 Bug other than Group 42? |
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Hijack...
When using original seats and material... I always add a layer of burlap sack or vinyl (or both) between the springs and coconut fibers (it's not horse hair) .
This helps keep the fibers trapped in the proper area rather than being sliced up by the springs and distributed in the floor and under the seats.
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andk5591
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| Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2018 7:23 am Post subject: Re: Battery size for a '67 Bug other than Group 42? |
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Something I do for batteries that dont have the positive terminal cover is make a wrap around cover out of some ABS plastic that I have laying around. It encloses the terminal and is held on with zip ties. Works better than the margarine lids that I see duct taped on some cars LOL
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zuk
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| Posted: Tue Aug 20, 2019 4:31 pm Post subject: Re: Battery size for a '67 Bug other than Group 42? |
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| The group 96R which fits the mustang and has more cranking amps, is a good alternative if you cant find a 42 |
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AirHead1966
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Location: Triad Area NC
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| Posted: Sun Jul 10, 2022 4:52 pm Post subject: Re: Battery size for a '67 Bug other than Group 42? |
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| zuk wrote: |
| The group 96R which fits the mustang and has more cranking amps, is a good alternative if you cant find a 42 |
That is what I got today. Costco has Interstate 96R batteries for $99. Same dimensions as Group 42, same location for terminals and 550 CCA. |
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Cusser
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| Posted: Sun Jul 10, 2022 6:48 pm Post subject: Re: Battery size for a '67 Bug other than Group 42? |
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Batteries cost a fortune these days. Something like 85% of the batteries sold in USA are made by Johnson Controls.
I use the 42 battery from Autozone.
VERY important to secure the battery to the pan, to preserve lifetime of the battery. |
Since this post in 2018, I have adapted my opinion. Due to battery costs.
Alternate battery sizes batteries instead of Group 42: 96R and 47/H5 even have recessed terminals, which is a bonus on our cars (96R includes a cover as well) 24F is said to work but I have no first-hand experience with those.
I now have 26R from Walmart in my 1970, more CCA than the Group 42 too. And less expensive.
Whatever battery you choose: Make sure battery is secured to the pan, and that there is insulation between positive terminal and the rear seat, just so a passenger doesn't press the seat down far enough to short out the battery.
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davidw99
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| Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2022 3:06 am Post subject: Re: Battery size for a '67 Bug other than Group 42? |
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I posted earlier in this subject (above) that a group 58 battery would fit. I meant a group 58R battery.
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Combi Cat
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| Posted: Sat Sep 24, 2022 12:55 pm Post subject: Re: Battery size for a '67 Bug other than Group 42? |
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| I don't know if it would prevent battery shorting, but to prevent "horse-hair precipitation" I've gone and sprayed rubberized undercoating on the underside of my bugs' back seats. It is to seal in the padding, but you can't do it without coating the metal springs as well. |
The hair collecting under the back seat drives me crazy also. To remedy this I've taken an old sheet and hot glue gunned it to the bottom side and trimmed the excess. You can't see it at all when the seat bottom is installed. Works great![/quote]
Good thinking! But is the fabric an additional fire hazard should there be a spark? |
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Eric&Barb
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| Posted: Sat Sep 24, 2022 1:37 pm Post subject: Re: Battery size for a '67 Bug other than Group 42? |
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| 60BeetleBill wrote: |
| "horse-hair precipitation" |
FYI that is not hair, but instead coconut coir. A spray can of upholstery glue would probably do a better job.
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Wayne S. Johnson
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DeathRay64
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| Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2022 11:41 pm Post subject: Re: Battery size for a '67 Bug other than Group 42? |
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I'm thinking a Group 75 battery might be persuaded to fit without much trouble.
It has side posts only that would avoid most seat spring issues and it is only a 1/8" wider.
I'm sure some folks here must be running these, or even the longer Group 78.
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Jade
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| Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2024 3:34 pm Post subject: Re: Battery size for a '67 Bug other than Group 42? |
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I needed a battery for my '66 bus recently and couldn't find anything cheaper than $190, ouch.
I went with a Napa brand BCI no. 35 for $130. The width and depth is the same, but the height is a little more no problem on a bus though.
https://www.napaonline.com/en/p/BAT6535?bvnotifica.../269099294
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VWNate
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| Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2024 9:23 am Post subject: 12 Volt Battery Other Than BCI Group 42? |
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What a great thread .
I wish they'd make a dedicated 6 volt VW AGM battery, I like to use the stock battery cover and hold down .
For those who have old Beetles with random batteries, the simple solution is a beefy rubber floor mat ~ you pinch it between the lower rear seat cushion and the metal bar that holds the seat cushion in place, it'll never allow the seat springs to touch the battery no matter how fat your passengers are .
Nice to see the numerous different BCI numbers that can be used in a pinch .
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JZ8G00
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| Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2024 1:50 pm Post subject: Re: Battery size for a '67 Bug other than Group 42? |
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Just replaced my 11 year old Group 42 with a Group 96R from WalMart, perfect fit and at $107 very affordable.
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| Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2024 12:41 pm Post subject: Re: Battery size for a '67 Bug other than Group 42? |
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Rule of thumb for the most powerful batteries...size matters
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1967VWS4LIFE
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| Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2024 1:54 pm Post subject: Re: Battery size for a '67 Bug other than Group 42? |
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I use a group 90 (T5) battery for my 67 which originally comes in Ford Fusions, and it works flawlessly. Also got some battery terminal covers from Amazon which takes care of any possible contact with the seat springs. A top post is always better than a side post battery and a 90 group has more CCA than a 96R or a 42.
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