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PostPosted: Mon Sep 16, 2019 1:27 pm    Post subject: Re: Help me identify these Recaro seats Reply with quote

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If the original poster hasn't figured it out yet they are very rare recaro seats. To call them "Sport Seats" is incorrect. Sport Seats are MUCH bulkier and heavier. They were made more for touring than racing.

The seats you have are referred to as 911R seats. Yours appear to be in original trim. One thing to note is that early 911 seats NEVER had a recaro badge on them from the factory. Your seats could've been ordered as an option in '68 as part of the sport package.

The market has slowed down on seats as they have every other part of the Porsche parts biz but they are still valuable. In todays market you'd be good to get 6k for the pair. 2 years ago, it would've been 10k :/ Everythings just super slow.

For the people who thought these were 914 seats.... be thankful you did your homework before selling them for $500 Shocked

ps. Let me know if you do come up with a price Smile



Jos, I have opened a specific post on the buggy. Hope you like it Smile
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?p=9170302#9170302
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 03, 2019 4:18 pm    Post subject: Re: Help me identify these Recaro seats Reply with quote

Jos.Hall wrote:
If the original poster hasn't figured it out yet they are very rare recaro seats. To call them "Sport Seats" is incorrect. Sport Seats are MUCH bulkier and heavier. They were made more for touring than racing.

The seats you have are referred to as 911R seats. Yours appear to be in original trim. One thing to note is that early 911 seats NEVER had a recaro badge on them from the factory. Your seats could've been ordered as an option in '68 as part of the sport package.

The market has slowed down on seats as they have every other part of the Porsche parts biz but they are still valuable. In todays market you'd be good to get 6k for the pair. 2 years ago, it would've been 10k :/ Everythings just super slow.

For the people who thought these were 914 seats.... be thankful you did your homework before selling them for $500 Shocked

ps. Let me know if you do come up with a price Smile


Thanks for your feedback Josh. Much appreciated.
For the time being I am leaving them in the Porsche-powered buggy as this was the way it was intended by the guy who built the car in 1970! Laughing
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 13, 2019 12:14 am    Post subject: Re: Help me identify these Recaro seats Reply with quote

If the original poster hasn't figured it out yet they are very rare recaro seats. To call them "Sport Seats" is incorrect. Sport Seats are MUCH bulkier and heavier. They were made more for touring than racing.

The seats you have are referred to as 911R seats. Yours appear to be in original trim. One thing to note is that early 911 seats NEVER had a recaro badge on them from the factory. Your seats could've been ordered as an option in '68 as part of the sport package.

The market has slowed down on seats as they have every other part of the Porsche parts biz but they are still valuable. In todays market you'd be good to get 6k for the pair. 2 years ago, it would've been 10k :/ Everythings just super slow.

For the people who thought these were 914 seats.... be thankful you did your homework before selling them for $500 Shocked

ps. Let me know if you do come up with a price Smile
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 29, 2018 8:53 pm    Post subject: Re: Help me identify these Recaro seats Reply with quote

Those seem to be early (Pre-1970) sport recaros. A buddy of mine bought some for his MX61 Cresta Kaido Racer. He paid 500,000 yen ($5000) for his 2 years ago.

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 25, 2018 12:56 pm    Post subject: Re: Help me identify these Recaro seats Reply with quote

Good luck with the sale!
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 26, 2018 1:43 pm    Post subject: Re: Help me identify these Recaro seats Reply with quote

Post a picture it sounds great. I would buy some comfortable seats Laughing
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 26, 2018 11:37 am    Post subject: Re: Help me identify these Recaro seats Reply with quote

Starbucket wrote:
Is the trans a 4 speed or 5 speed (4 speed reverse is down and back, 5 speed is down and forward)? The motor and trans are worth the most money or find a Porsche or VW/Karman Ghia and put them in it.


The trans is 4-speed

A 400kg buggy with a 95hp Porsche engine is big fun so no plans whatsoever to remove the engine or trans

Also this buggy is a piece of VW/porsche history in Spain so happy to keep it the way it was originally built

With the seats I am being very pragmatic. Help a friend, replace the recaro seats for perfect copies that cost only a fraction and free some cash which I can use to finish the buggy and put it back on the road
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 25, 2018 5:24 pm    Post subject: Re: Help me identify these Recaro seats Reply with quote

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The only problem is if he sells to anyone not living in Spain, the shipping, Duty, and Customs paper work where he has to declare the value will probably add another $1000 to the price. They are missing the Recaro badge as pictured in the 911R so they are recovered or knock offs.


Are you saying Spain has export taxes or are you referring to other European countries? Just curious if Spain is different as I've never bought anything from there.

You are generally fine in the USA - there are no extra fees buying parts from overseas beyond shipping costs.


I don't know if Spain has one but when it hits the US and they see the value the Buyer will have to pay Duty. Shipping will be outrageous as I shipped two bare 356 heads to Potrurgal? and it cost the buyer $120.00 and the crate those seats will be in will take up more space and weigh more.


Ok, I guess that has to do with the value.
I've never paid duty on anything but I've never bought anything that expensive. Or anything declared to be that expensive. Wink

Sorry for the Off Topic stuff BTW, just interested
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 25, 2018 1:56 pm    Post subject: Re: Help me identify these Recaro seats Reply with quote

Is the trans a 4 speed or 5 speed (4 speed reverse is down and back, 5 speed is down and forward)? The motor and trans are worth the most money or find a Porsche or VW/Karman Ghia and put them in it.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 25, 2018 12:38 pm    Post subject: Re: Help me identify these Recaro seats Reply with quote

They are Porsche seats...I was just kidding about the knob...

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 25, 2018 12:19 pm    Post subject: Re: Help me identify these Recaro seats Reply with quote

Thanks guys for your comments. All helpful feedback.

Some more background info: the buggy these seats came with was owned since the early days to his death by Ben Heiderich, importer of Porsche in Spain in the 60s and 70s. He was also the owner of the buggy company (Hispano Aleman) which built the buggy in the late sixties.

Being the buggy built and owned by the Porsche importer, and being equipped with a 356 SC engine and gearbox, and full 911 clocks from an S (my guess), I have always assumed these Recaro seats to be original Porsche equipment.

From all your comments I conclude the following:
1. Seats are original Recaros
2. Not sure if they are Porsche seats
3. Still not sure about their market value

Thanks to everyone for your contribution
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 25, 2018 11:29 am    Post subject: Re: Help me identify these Recaro seats Reply with quote

yeah they came out of a dunebuggy...LOL...I guess the adjustment knob is aftermarket too...
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 25, 2018 11:25 am    Post subject: Re: Help me identify these Recaro seats Reply with quote

Erik G wrote:
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The only problem is if he sells to anyone not living in Spain, the shipping, Duty, and Customs paper work where he has to declare the value will probably add another $1000 to the price. They are missing the Recaro badge as pictured in the 911R so they are recovered or knock offs.


Not all recaros had the badge. these 911 sport seats did not (taken directly from the recaro site)

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You are right the AFTERMARKET sets don't have it only the OE ones did for Porsche. P.S. the ones you pictured have the wrong seat tracks for a 911.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 25, 2018 10:41 am    Post subject: Re: Help me identify these Recaro seats Reply with quote

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The only problem is if he sells to anyone not living in Spain, the shipping, Duty, and Customs paper work where he has to declare the value will probably add another $1000 to the price. They are missing the Recaro badge as pictured in the 911R so they are recovered or knock offs.


Are you saying Spain has export taxes or are you referring to other European countries? Just curious if Spain is different as I've never bought anything from there.

You are generally fine in the USA - there are no extra fees buying parts from overseas beyond shipping costs.


I don't know if Spain has one but when it hits the US and they see the value the Buyer will have to pay Duty. Shipping will be outrageous as I shipped two bare 356 heads to Potrurgal? and it cost the buyer $120.00 and the crate those seats will be in will take up more space and weigh more.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 25, 2018 9:32 am    Post subject: Re: Help me identify these Recaro seats Reply with quote

Starbucket wrote:
The only problem is if he sells to anyone not living in Spain, the shipping, Duty, and Customs paper work where he has to declare the value will probably add another $1000 to the price. They are missing the Recaro badge as pictured in the 911R so they are recovered or knock offs.


Not all recaros had the badge. these 911 sport seats did not (taken directly from the recaro site)

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 25, 2018 8:55 am    Post subject: Re: Help me identify these Recaro seats Reply with quote

Starbucket wrote:
The only problem is if he sells to anyone not living in Spain, the shipping, Duty, and Customs paper work where he has to declare the value will probably add another $1000 to the price. They are missing the Recaro badge as pictured in the 911R so they are recovered or knock offs.


Are you saying Spain has export taxes or are you referring to other European countries? Just curious if Spain is different as I've never bought anything from there.

You are generally fine in the USA - there are no extra fees buying parts from overseas beyond shipping costs.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 25, 2018 7:39 am    Post subject: Re: Help me identify these Recaro seats Reply with quote

The only problem is if he sells to anyone not living in Spain, the shipping, Duty, and Customs paper work where he has to declare the value will probably add another $1000 to the price. They are missing the Recaro badge as pictured in the 911R so they are recovered or knock offs.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 24, 2018 3:50 pm    Post subject: Re: Help me identify these Recaro seats Reply with quote

yes, 911 sport seats. Really really uncomfortable, but also expensive
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 24, 2018 2:28 pm    Post subject: Re: Help me identify these Recaro seats Reply with quote

Looks like the one in the eBay link I sent you earlier was spot on...yours certainly are in a lot better shape than the one pictured on eBay.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 24, 2018 2:16 pm    Post subject: Re: Help me identify these Recaro seats Reply with quote

Interior shots of a 911R. To me they are the exact same thing as mine with the exception of the material for the center part of the seat

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What do you guys think?

Thanks again for your time!
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