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BoltonFTW Samba Member
Joined: February 18, 2017 Posts: 102 Location: San Francisco
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Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2018 8:32 am Post subject: Whats the wire coming out of fuel tank supply line |
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Changing out the fuel lines in new to me 1978 2.0L with FI. As I was doing the line coming out of the fuel tank (supply line that connects to Hardline that then crosses over to driver side and goes to filter) to my surprise when I pulled off the old hose a little (brass?) wire came popping out from the fuel tank line. Almost like a little end of a bent paperclip.
Just curious what this wire is and what it's used for? I'm guessing it's related to the sending unit ? Why does it go all the way into the short hard line out of the tank?
Photo of wire in question below stixking out where old fuel line has been detached.
Thanks in advance.
_________________ Drew
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1978 Westfalia Campmobile Deluxe 2.0 FI w/hydraulic lifters
1977 Westfalia Weekender Tintop (very first car - SOLD )
1992 VW Corrado VR6 (SOLD)
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jtauxe Samba Member
Joined: September 30, 2004 Posts: 5780 Location: Los Alamos, New Mexico
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Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2018 8:35 am Post subject: Re: Whats the wire coming out of fuel tank supply line |
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That's not right. Must be some kind of tank debris that found its way into the line.
Pull it out, and generally clean up down there. Looks like a rat's nest, literally. _________________ John
"Travelling in a fried-out Kombi, on a hippie trail, head full of zombie..." - Colin Hay and Ron Strykert
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1969 Transporter, 1971 Westfalia, 1976, 1977, 1976, 1977, 1971, 1973, 1977 Westfalias,
1979 Champagne Sunroof, 1974 Westfalia Automatic, 1979 Transporter, 1972 Sportsmobile, 1973 Transporter Wild Westerner, 1974 Westfalia parts bus, 1975 Mexican single cab *FOR SALE*, 1978 Irish 4-door double cab RHD
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Wildthings Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2018 9:14 am Post subject: Re: Whats the wire coming out of fuel tank supply line |
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It is to keep that piece of elusive plastic that is floating around in the tank from blocking the outlet, it needs stick up into the tank a bit in order to work. One of the better hacks out there. |
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busdaddy Samba Member
Joined: February 12, 2004 Posts: 51145 Location: Surrey B.C. Canada, but thinking of Ukraine
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Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2018 9:15 am Post subject: Re: Whats the wire coming out of fuel tank supply line |
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Stuffing a wire up the tank outlet can help prevent the broken off birds beak or other debris from blocking the end of the tube in the tank, bet there's all sorts of crap in the tank. _________________ Rust NEVER sleeps and stock never goes out of style.
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BoltonFTW Samba Member
Joined: February 18, 2017 Posts: 102 Location: San Francisco
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Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2018 9:24 am Post subject: Re: Whats the wire coming out of fuel tank supply line |
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jtauxe wrote: |
That's not right. Must be some kind of tank debris that found its way into the line.
Pull it out, and generally clean up down there. Looks like a rat's nest, literally. |
Thanks.
I did give it a bit of a tug by hand and it seemed to have resistance on it so I wasn't sure if it was connected to something or if its just lodged in there pretty good.
Wtf could this be? remnants of an old sender? The bus does have an access hole cut over the top of the tank so I'm pretty sure all that was replaced at one point.
And yes, in general a lot of cleanup underneath this vehicle is in order. Taking care of the lines was first on my list though so I can feel comfortable at least driving it...
I pulled off some very old looking fuel line clamps during the process.
_________________ Drew
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1978 Westfalia Campmobile Deluxe 2.0 FI w/hydraulic lifters
1977 Westfalia Weekender Tintop (very first car - SOLD )
1992 VW Corrado VR6 (SOLD) |
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BoltonFTW Samba Member
Joined: February 18, 2017 Posts: 102 Location: San Francisco
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Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2018 9:25 am Post subject: Re: Whats the wire coming out of fuel tank supply line |
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busdaddy wrote: |
Stuffing a wire up the tank outlet can help prevent the broken off birds beak or other debris from blocking the end of the tube in the tank, bet there's all sorts of crap in the tank. |
Aha _________________ Drew
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1978 Westfalia Campmobile Deluxe 2.0 FI w/hydraulic lifters
1977 Westfalia Weekender Tintop (very first car - SOLD )
1992 VW Corrado VR6 (SOLD) |
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jtauxe Samba Member
Joined: September 30, 2004 Posts: 5780 Location: Los Alamos, New Mexico
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Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2018 9:37 am Post subject: Re: Whats the wire coming out of fuel tank supply line |
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Ooh - nice fuel clamp! Save that -- it is OG, and they are getting hard to find.
TIL that people will stick wires up the lines into the tank as a hack in order to keep junk in the tank from fouling the line. Good idea! So, leave it be, I guess, but you might look inside your tank some day to see what is in there besides fuel. _________________ John
"Travelling in a fried-out Kombi, on a hippie trail, head full of zombie..." - Colin Hay and Ron Strykert
http://vw.tauxe.net
1969 Transporter, 1971 Westfalia, 1976, 1977, 1976, 1977, 1971, 1973, 1977 Westfalias,
1979 Champagne Sunroof, 1974 Westfalia Automatic, 1979 Transporter, 1972 Sportsmobile, 1973 Transporter Wild Westerner, 1974 Westfalia parts bus, 1975 Mexican single cab *FOR SALE*, 1978 Irish 4-door double cab RHD
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alman72 Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2018 4:34 pm Post subject: Re: Whats the wire coming out of fuel tank supply line |
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jtauxe wrote: |
Ooh - nice fuel clamp! Save that -- it is OG, and they are getting hard to find.
TIL that people will stick wires up the lines into the tank as a hack in order to keep junk in the tank from fouling the line. Good idea! So, leave it be, I guess, but you might look inside your tank some day to see what is in there besides fuel. |
vw people. I love some of the shit that gets the "Ooh"s a frickin fuel clamp.
(I know this stuff is just getting rarer, just tickles my funny bone) |
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Tbob Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2018 6:32 pm Post subject: Re: Whats the wire coming out of fuel tank supply line |
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alman72, yea, those hose clamps are better than most stuff we can get now. They don't cut into the fuel hose as much as others, especially the standard hose clamp available everywhere. And, it isn't rusty! And it is German!
I have a little stash of those to use on my projects. They just work better. _________________ 1969 Deluxe, owned since 1973
1973 Westfalia, owned since 1983
1980 Westfalia, watercooled conversion
1985 Westfalia, stock!
1986 Westfakia, Audi I-4 conversion
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Abscate Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2018 2:51 am Post subject: Re: Whats the wire coming out of fuel tank supply line |
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The rounded edges and hardware quality are the difference
You can get these in ABA brand today. Of course
Anything is better than the drugstore “SS” clamps from overseas, even a ziptie _________________ .ssS! |
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ToolBox Samba Member
Joined: January 27, 2004 Posts: 3439 Location: Detroit, where they don't jack parts off my ride in the parking lot of the 7-11
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Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2018 12:05 pm Post subject: Re: Whats the wire coming out of fuel tank supply line |
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Tbob wrote: |
alman72, yea, those hose clamps are better than most stuff we can get now. They don't cut into the fuel hose as much as others, especially the standard hose clamp available everywhere. And, it isn't rusty! And it is German!
I have a little stash of those to use on my projects. They just work better. |
If you take a few minutes to actually look for the correct style clamp you can find them pretty quick. My local industrial hose supply has them in plated and Stainless from 2 different manufacturers. |
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[email protected] Samba Member
Joined: May 17, 2003 Posts: 4863 Location: Harmony, PA
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Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2018 5:54 am Post subject: Re: Whats the wire coming out of fuel tank supply line |
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alman72 wrote: |
jtauxe wrote: |
Ooh - nice fuel clamp! Save that -- it is OG, and they are getting hard to find.
TIL that people will stick wires up the lines into the tank as a hack in order to keep junk in the tank from fouling the line. Good idea! So, leave it be, I guess, but you might look inside your tank some day to see what is in there besides fuel. |
vw people. I love some of the shit that gets the "Ooh"s a frickin fuel clamp.
(I know this stuff is just getting rarer, just tickles my funny bone) |
It’s not just VW people. Things like that separate the men from the boys in the restoration world. Ever see two “seemingly alike” vehicle’s sell, but one brings 2-3 times the money? Brass tack details like logo’d fuel line clamps, and headmark correct bolts are usually why. I would say the Corvette crowd are the biggest geeks when it comes to stuff like that. |
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