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i_luv_my_bus76 Samba Member
Joined: May 18, 2012 Posts: 371 Location: High Desert
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Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2018 4:30 pm Post subject: I'm a bonehead |
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While building my engine I ruined my straight cut timing gear that goes on the crankshaft. I was wondering if I could just buy that one or do I need to buy the set? |
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ach60 Samba Member
Joined: May 14, 2001 Posts: 4139 Location: Santa Maria
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Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2018 4:56 pm Post subject: Re: I'm a bonehead |
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Call your vendor that you purchased the gear set from.
These gear sets are not matched, so it's just a matter of your vendor taking pity on you. _________________ Good Luck
Al |
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i_luv_my_bus76 Samba Member
Joined: May 18, 2012 Posts: 371 Location: High Desert
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Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2018 7:01 pm Post subject: Re: I'm a bonehead |
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ach60 wrote: |
Call your vendor that you purchased the gear set from.
These gear sets are not matched, so it's just a matter of your vendor taking pity on you. |
I bought it online about 5 months ago...
They allowed me to do a warranty claim |
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nsracing Samba Member
Joined: November 16, 2003 Posts: 9473 Location: NOVA
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Posted: Sat Nov 10, 2018 4:19 am Post subject: Re: I'm a bonehead |
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So how did you manage to mangle the gear in the first place?
How big was the sledgehammer you used? |
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madmike Samba Member
Joined: July 11, 2005 Posts: 5292 Location: Atlanta,Michigan
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Posted: Sat Nov 10, 2018 4:41 am Post subject: Re: I'm a bonehead |
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I bet he cracked it ,,,,like i did once,,, _________________ 'Black Ice'Drag Buggy 'Turbo'
Rail Buggy 1915 turbo
76 Drag/Street bug 2180cc 'Turbo' 11:85 @113 mph"If I go any faster I'll burn up the Hamster" ,gets 28 mpg. also 10/09/22 11.90 @115 mph
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i_luv_my_bus76 Samba Member
Joined: May 18, 2012 Posts: 371 Location: High Desert
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Posted: Sat Nov 10, 2018 8:35 am Post subject: Re: I'm a bonehead |
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nsracing wrote: |
So how did you manage to mangle the gear in the first place?
How big was the sledgehammer you used? |
Didn't get to the sledge...
I have built engines in the past, and always said I'll never make this mistake...
i forgot to install the bearing that goes on before the gear. When I went to pull it off with my puller it came off cock eyed and marred up the inner portion of the gear badly, but surprisingly no damage to the crank (which is awesome, it's a new 76mm counterweight $$$$$)... when I get off work I'll send some pics. I was able to swap it out just have to wait until the new one comes to finish the crank |
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i_luv_my_bus76 Samba Member
Joined: May 18, 2012 Posts: 371 Location: High Desert
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Posted: Sat Nov 10, 2018 8:37 am Post subject: Re: I'm a bonehead |
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madmike wrote: |
I bet he cracked it ,,,,like i did once,,, |
No cracks...but thought I had |
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i_luv_my_bus76 Samba Member
Joined: May 18, 2012 Posts: 371 Location: High Desert
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Posted: Sat Nov 10, 2018 9:47 pm Post subject: Re: I'm a bonehead |
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nsracing Samba Member
Joined: November 16, 2003 Posts: 9473 Location: NOVA
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Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2018 7:11 am Post subject: Re: I'm a bonehead |
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You get that type of damage from putting it in crooked, not removal. If it went on clean, you will not end up w/ a burr like that.
An easier way to put on a gear is to heat the item. I just use a torch - hold the item with a pair of pliers and just flame the outside few minutes. Just warm it up. NOT BLUE! Then just flop the gear on the nose. It drops down on its own weight. If not, just tap with a drift and it goes on.
For pulling, I use a hydraulic puller. I damaged an old Berg puller so I just use the plate w/ the hydraulic puller. It is clean, strong and pulls it nicely. |
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mark tucker Samba Member
Joined: April 08, 2009 Posts: 23937 Location: SHALIMAR ,FLORIDA
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Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2018 7:37 am Post subject: Re: I'm a bonehead |
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many people justuse a 60-100watt lightbulb, put the gear on it for 5-10 min then it slips on. or a old hot plate.or use the coffie maker to heat it. do beat it on ,dont use a press. it's eazy to effup the spindly crankeshaftem thingy too. |
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nsracing Samba Member
Joined: November 16, 2003 Posts: 9473 Location: NOVA
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Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2018 10:14 am Post subject: Re: I'm a bonehead |
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Won't a torch be way cheaper and quicker? And you don't even have to risk being electrocuted.
Tucker is fancy for sure. |
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[email protected] Samba Member
Joined: August 03, 2002 Posts: 12785 Location: Salt Lake City, Utah
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Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2018 12:09 pm Post subject: Re: I'm a bonehead |
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i_luv_my_bus76 Samba Member
Joined: May 18, 2012 Posts: 371 Location: High Desert
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Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2018 12:15 pm Post subject: Re: I'm a bonehead |
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[email protected] wrote: |
Welcome to the club. As you get older this sort of situation is called "experience". I have a lot of "experience". |
I appreciate that...
I beat myself up pretty bad about what I did. Thank you for the encouragement |
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mark tucker Samba Member
Joined: April 08, 2009 Posts: 23937 Location: SHALIMAR ,FLORIDA
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Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2018 12:19 pm Post subject: Re: I'm a bonehead |
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I could see somebody with a torch getting the gear red hot....and then a effed up engine.I have also used heat gun.( witch is my way of doing it.I aint in no hurry like nick. and I may just need my hair dried too. beware when heating the gear or any thing at all it may be hot. |
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nsracing Samba Member
Joined: November 16, 2003 Posts: 9473 Location: NOVA
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Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2018 2:46 pm Post subject: Re: I'm a bonehead |
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It is not gonna get hurt if you over-cook it. It is not a hardened part at all.
A minute/s or so with a torch is plenty. A torch is very nice to warm things up in winter. I use it to warm the pistons when I assembling the pin into it in winter builds.
I also torch parts a little to dry them up quickly in winter after a wash, if I don't have time to wait around waiting all day to dry up. Works really good...on rocker/valvetrain parts and things.
try it man. Just don't burn down your house. |
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kwarloc Samba Member
Joined: April 17, 2018 Posts: 3 Location: mission viejo, ca
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Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2018 11:13 pm Post subject: Re: I'm a bonehead |
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i just wrapped my crank in a towel and let it chill in the fridge w/ the soda's & beer for about 30. then i warmed the gears (w/ dinner) in the oven for about 15... dropped right in w/ ease |
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Max Welton Samba Member
Joined: May 19, 2003 Posts: 10697 Location: Black Forest, CO
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nsracing Samba Member
Joined: November 16, 2003 Posts: 9473 Location: NOVA
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Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2018 6:54 pm Post subject: Re: I'm a bonehead |
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Torch is awesome on pistons in winter. Just get them warm above 70 deg and the pins slide in easy. |
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modok Samba Member
Joined: October 30, 2009 Posts: 26788 Location: Colorado Springs
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Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2018 7:10 pm Post subject: Re: I'm a bonehead |
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Toaster ovens are 20$ at wallmart.
you have no excuse for now getting one. it's cheaper than a torch. A good torch and MAP gas bottle your looking at 50$ min |
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nsracing Samba Member
Joined: November 16, 2003 Posts: 9473 Location: NOVA
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Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2018 7:35 pm Post subject: Re: I'm a bonehead |
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Can a toaster oven do copper pipes?
Or, or thaw out something in the middle of a field?
It is hard to beat a propane torch - one of the best all around tools. |
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