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bnam Samba Member
Joined: July 02, 2006 Posts: 2936 Location: El Dorado Hills CA/ Bangalore, India
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Posted: Sun Nov 11, 2018 10:11 pm Post subject: M051 option on a ghia- Additional Alternator |
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A friend of mine just got the BC for his 68KG. It was delivered to Montreal Canada before eventual import to India. One of the options listed was M051 - "Preparation for second alternator". Doing some research in the archives, I came up with this pic
What would this have been used for? Radio/military? Possible for peacekeeping force commanders to use as a personal car? Or?
His Ghia still has the double/stepped crank pulley. Not sure what other changes are involved, but perhaps wiring was slightly different to ready it for use with a second alternator.
Anyone have any info on this option? _________________ 1971 1302LS Convertible (RHD) owned since '74
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1965 Karmann Ghia Coupe - under restoration
1966 Fiat 1500 Cabrio (with 1600 Twin cam)
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TDCTDI Samba Advocatus Diaboli
Joined: August 31, 2013 Posts: 12856 Location: North Carolina
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Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2018 4:56 am Post subject: Re: M051 option on a ghia- Additional Alternator |
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The tandem generator was probably used for additional lighting, possible rally use. _________________ Everybody born before 1975 has a story, good, bad, or indifferent, about a VW.
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bnam Samba Member
Joined: July 02, 2006 Posts: 2936 Location: El Dorado Hills CA/ Bangalore, India
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Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2018 8:43 am Post subject: Re: M051 option on a ghia- Additional Alternator |
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Was a more common option on military versions of typ181s. Another friend told me about his dad who was commanded a unit of UN Peace Keepers in the Congo. He was given a Taunus and a Beetle as personal cars and they came equipped with military radios. _________________ 1971 1302LS Convertible (RHD) owned since '74
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runamoc Samba Member
Joined: June 19, 2006 Posts: 5601 Location: 37.5N 77.1W
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Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2018 8:49 am Post subject: Re: M051 option on a ghia- Additional Alternator |
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Maybe different voltage or an alternator for AC voltage. _________________ Daily driver: '69 Baja owned 44 yrs - Plan B: '81 Rabbit Diesel LS Deluxe - Plan C: '72 Ghia
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TDCTDI Samba Advocatus Diaboli
Joined: August 31, 2013 Posts: 12856 Location: North Carolina
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Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2018 8:51 am Post subject: Re: M051 option on a ghia- Additional Alternator |
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Yes but I'm pretty sure that radio equipment of the day would have dominated most of the interior room of a Ghia. _________________ Everybody born before 1975 has a story, good, bad, or indifferent, about a VW.
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KGCoupe Samba Member
Joined: July 01, 2005 Posts: 3580 Location: Putting the "ill" and "annoy" in Illinois
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Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2018 10:53 am Post subject: Re: M051 option on a ghia- Additional Alternator |
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runamoc wrote: |
Maybe different voltage or an alternator for AC voltage. |
I know the Military VW Things ran with a 24V electrical system.
Perhaps if that Ghia did have some sort of special Military/Civil Defense radio, the 2nd alternator could very well have been a 24V version to power the radio.
I suppose they could have also used a 2nd 12V alternator wired to combine with the primary 12V alternator to produce 24V.
It all depends on how the wiring was set up. |
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jeffrey8164 Samba Member
Joined: January 06, 2018 Posts: 3818 Location: Georgia
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Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2018 3:53 pm Post subject: Re: M051 option on a ghia- Additional Alternator |
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Dang it! I wish I had a picture.
On my first Ghia, I had the stock generator that charged one battery that ran the car and an alternator mounted on an A/C compressor stand that charged another battery that ran the stereo.
It was driven with an A/C pulley that fit on stock pulley. Smaller, but seemed to do the job. _________________ Volkswagen!
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