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PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2018 8:13 pm    Post subject: Bike rack that works with rear spare tire carrier/trays Reply with quote

I currently have a tray style bike rack (Kuat) that I've used for several years across a wide range of vehicles. I realized this weekend that it would not work well with my Vanagon due to interference with the Rocky Mountain Westy tire carrier and cargo tray. I can carry only one bike in the farthest slot from the bumper.

Is anyone aware of a good bike rack, tray or otherwise that would allow me to carry at least 2 bikes?

Thanks in advance,
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2018 8:30 pm    Post subject: Re: Bike rack that works with rear spare tire carrier/trays Reply with quote

I wonder if a hitch swing arm would not only push your kuat rack out far enough to accommodate, but also give you the ability to swing out your rack for easy hatch access?
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2018 10:25 pm    Post subject: Re: Bike rack that works with rear spare tire carrier/trays Reply with quote

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I wonder if a hitch swing arm would not only push your kuat rack out far enough to accommodate, but also give you the ability to swing out your rack for easy hatch access?


^^^ https://rakattach.com

Also, OP, have you considered carrying your bikes in a more vertical position like this GW set up: https://www.gowesty.com/product/bike-racks/23892/yakima-front-loader-upright-bike-rack?v=

I imagine you could fit these to your RMW setup.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2018 10:42 pm    Post subject: Re: Bike rack that works with rear spare tire carrier/trays Reply with quote

I noodled this one for months, maybe a year. I've got a Kuat rack that I wanted to use. Rack-Attach swing out, Kuat swing-out (made by Rack Attach), various extensions, etc, etc. None allowed easy access to the hatch or didn't block the taillights.

I landed on 1Up bike racks mounted to an RMW swing out with the RMW Switch back attachment. It's a darn good solution for my needs. 1Up bike racks are very well designed and executed (relatively simple and no plastics).

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FWIW, YMMV.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2018 11:27 pm    Post subject: Re: Bike rack that works with rear spare tire carrier/trays Reply with quote

^^^ Slick! Are those 1Up "Roof Racks" (flush mount) or ???
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 13, 2018 2:39 am    Post subject: Re: Bike rack that works with rear spare tire carrier/trays Reply with quote

Yes, those are two 1Up flush mount roof racks. I was concerned about using them in a vertical orientation and used two back-ups to ensure that I wouldn't lose the bikes in front of other vehicles while driving down the road. After a summer I became confident enough in the rack design that I only use one back-up (a cable lock connecting the bike to the RMW swing-out, if the 1UP fails which seems unlikely, the bikes are still locked to the van).

https://www.1up-usa.com/product/roof-rack/

There a few videos that help explain how they work...

https://www.google.com/search?client=safari&hl...M3_SQ0LO_M
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 13, 2018 3:50 am    Post subject: Re: Bike rack that works with rear spare tire carrier/trays Reply with quote

the Utahn wrote:
I currently have a tray style bike rack (Kuat) that I've used for several years across a wide range of vehicles. I realized this weekend that it would not work well with my Vanagon due to interference with the Rocky Mountain Westy tire carrier and cargo tray. I can carry only one bike in the farthest slot from the bumper.

Is anyone aware of a good bike rack, tray or otherwise that would allow me to carry at least 2 bikes?

Thanks in advance,


I use this Yakima rack that is made for four bikes and they can position outward from the back.

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You could try a hitch extender?

https://www.harborfreight.com/12-in-hitch-extender-69882.html
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 13, 2018 5:24 am    Post subject: Re: Bike rack that works with rear spare tire carrier/trays Reply with quote

Just buy a hitch extender. Dozens of companies make them. I have RMW trays and use my old hitch mount Thule bike rack with them just fine. This is an easy problem to overcome.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 13, 2018 6:33 am    Post subject: Re: Bike rack that works with rear spare tire carrier/trays Reply with quote

jimf909 wrote:


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FWIW, YMMV.


^^ Siiick! I think you sold me on this RMW setup. For the LONGEST time - I thought most of the swing aways were built into the bumper (I'm thinking GoWesty setup).

I regret buying my GoWesty 2" hitch so much right now.

Edit: Wow. This looks like a winter project for sure.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 13, 2018 9:52 am    Post subject: Re: Bike rack that works with rear spare tire carrier/trays Reply with quote

I'm a big fan of 1up as well. I have no problem clearing my gowesty spare with my big ass 29er.

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I had a similar swing away setup that held up well and allowed for access to the back of the van.

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I ended up not staggering the bikes and used a longer yakima bar.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 13, 2018 2:12 pm    Post subject: Re: Bike rack that works with rear spare tire carrier/trays Reply with quote

kourt wrote:
Just buy a hitch extender. Dozens of companies make them. I have RMW trays and use my old hitch mount Thule bike rack with them just fine. This is an easy problem to overcome.

kourt


Was going to say this. I saw one on the side of the road one time and picked it up. I don't think I have ever used it, except to bolt my toilet seat to.

You can buy hitch tighteners that kind of pull the hitch up a little to keep it from banging around. Using one of those would keep it from sagging as much. Here is one example:
https://www.amazon.com/SAUNICE-Tightener-Anti-Ratt...&psc=1

Can't really see the hitch extender very well in this pic, but it's humorous.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 13, 2018 10:55 pm    Post subject: Re: Bike rack that works with rear spare tire carrier/trays Reply with quote

+1 on the hitch extender. Harbor Fright has them super cheap.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 14, 2018 5:56 pm    Post subject: Re: Bike rack that works with rear spare tire carrier/trays Reply with quote

Thank you all for the input... I feel a bit silly not thinking about a hitch extender, and it appears that Kuat even makes one now:

http://www.kuatracks.com/products/accessories/

Between that and the hitch tightener I should be good.

I will say that if I had to do it again, I might look at the 1up rack as I really like the way it slopes upwards to maintain ground clearance. For those of you with a 1up, does it accomodate road bikes as well? Is it adjustable for kids / smaller bikes?

The RWM switchback attachment is pretty awesome with the 1up racks.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 14, 2018 6:53 pm    Post subject: Re: Bike rack that works with rear spare tire carrier/trays Reply with quote

I have a 1 Up. Best rack I've ever owned and that includes Yakima and Thule. There's no plastic to break or breakdown in the sun and yes...it fits road bikes really well.

Kid's bikes? I don't see any photos of kid's bikes on the 1 Up site. Maybe give them a ring.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 14, 2018 7:08 pm    Post subject: Re: Bike rack that works with rear spare tire carrier/trays Reply with quote

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Here's the old Thule rack with an extender, and the RMW tray deployed. This was just this past weekend on the Texas coast.

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 14, 2018 9:30 pm    Post subject: Re: Bike rack that works with rear spare tire carrier/trays Reply with quote

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I have a 1 Up. Best rack I've ever owned and that includes Yakima and Thule. There's no plastic to break or breakdown in the sun and yes...it fits road bikes really well.

Kid's bikes? I don't see any photos of kid's bikes on the 1 Up site. Maybe give them a ring.


Agreed. Give them a call, they’re friendly folks from small town Wisconsin.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 14, 2018 9:43 pm    Post subject: Re: Bike rack that works with rear spare tire carrier/trays Reply with quote

shagginwagon83 wrote:


I regret buying my GoWesty 2" hitch so much right now.


Don’t regret it too much. I bought one, used it a year and then realized it wouldn’t work with the Bostig. I put the hitch on CL and the dude who came to buy it not only paid my asking price but he also bought my 2.1 wbx. Best CL buyer ever!

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Edit: Wow. This looks like a winter project for sure.

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That pic brings back memories. I installed the RMW swing outs and switch back racks during the final weeks of recovery from a knee replacement. It was a fun project to do in a gimpy, pain-med addled mindset during beautiful spring days away from work.

RMW sells a great product and sends it out remarkably well-packaged with great instructions. The install was entirely straightforward.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 09, 2020 12:40 pm    Post subject: Re: Bike rack that works with rear spare tire carrier/trays Reply with quote

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I had a similar swing away setup that held up well and allowed for access to the back of the van.

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I ended up not staggering the bikes and used a longer yakima bar.


@benandmj what is the rack system you were using here?
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 09, 2020 12:49 pm    Post subject: Re: Bike rack that works with rear spare tire carrier/trays Reply with quote

New updated bike rack for my Westy.

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 09, 2020 1:08 pm    Post subject: Re: Bike rack that works with rear spare tire carrier/trays Reply with quote

scavengers wrote:
benandmj wrote:


I had a similar swing away setup that held up well and allowed for access to the back of the van.

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I ended up not staggering the bikes and used a longer yakima bar.


@benandmj what is the rack system you were using here?


I’m 99% certain those are GW swingouts mounted on the GW bumpers.

As for the bike mounts, they look like a version of Yalkima Boa. The crappy trademark Yakima faded red button on the rear mount is a giveaway.

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https://www.rackattack.com/bike-racks/roof-mount-bike-racks/yakima-boa/
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