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vwovalguy Samba Member
Joined: December 12, 2001 Posts: 462 Location: HOCKEY, MAPLE SYRUP AND RUSH
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markm Samba Member
Joined: July 21, 2003 Posts: 986 Location: Seattle, Via Beautiful El Sereno CA.
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Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2006 5:52 am Post subject: |
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I think Chris over at L5VW had a set of those recently. |
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Kubel Nick Samba Member
Joined: August 12, 2003 Posts: 1369 Location: Fort Worth, TX
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Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2006 8:06 am Post subject: |
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picts I have I saved from earlier:
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Peter_Plade Samba Member
Joined: January 09, 2005 Posts: 551 Location: Denmark
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Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2006 11:27 pm Post subject: |
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The red oval is mine and both the guards and lights are from Hella.
But be aware that the guards are left and right sided, they are not the same. _________________ http://vw-bluehats.blogspot.com/ |
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vwovalguy Samba Member
Joined: December 12, 2001 Posts: 462 Location: HOCKEY, MAPLE SYRUP AND RUSH
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Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2006 11:45 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks Peter,
I was aware of that already, but can you tell me about the amber lights on the rometsch? Are they original or just a common set added to the gaurds? I need to know if they used different foglights on these and which ones are correct. Can you give me a part# of your lights?
Mike |
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Peter_Plade Samba Member
Joined: January 09, 2005 Posts: 551 Location: Denmark
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Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2006 7:49 am Post subject: |
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Hi Mike
I dont know if there diffrent sets available but assume that all HELLA
lights that fits would be correct?!
On the outside just over the glass it says: n=23cm/5m.
And on the reflector it says: Nr. 110 zh-9
That is all I can find, but there is also some numbers inside the gurds. _________________ http://vw-bluehats.blogspot.com/ |
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Evert Tersiqo Samba Member
Joined: January 03, 2005 Posts: 86 Location: Surabaya Indonesia
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Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2009 1:11 am Post subject: |
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Hallo Guys,
Needs your help I need the fog light for my bumper guard...please help...
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alexwoa Samba Member
Joined: September 08, 2004 Posts: 39 Location: germany
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Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2009 2:15 pm Post subject: hella bumper guards + lamps |
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hello,
the red rometsch's lamps are not correct.
it is selfexplaining because this are BOSCH ! lamps on hella bumper guards.
those bosch nipple lamps are very nice but not mixed with hella guards )
i have a set of original hellas for the bumpers left - so if anyone needs them - please email me.
best regards
alex |
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tomas persson Samba Member
Joined: December 09, 2002 Posts: 220 Location: Sweden
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Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2009 2:48 pm Post subject: |
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Hi Mike and Peter,
There where 2 diffrent styles available... for round or oval shaped lights. One set o guards for each type. These where made for the earlier kind of bumper too, used on split bugs also. I have a Hella catalouge from the summer of 1958, where the diffrent kinds are on pictures...
Peter, you know me... the guy with the green/white split bus at the swap meet of Bug Run. =) |
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53 0val Samba Professor
Joined: July 03, 2003 Posts: 11396 Location: Irvine, CA
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Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2009 3:47 pm Post subject: |
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tomas persson wrote: |
Hi Mike and Peter,
There where 2 diffrent styles available... for round or oval shaped lights. One set o guards for each type. These where made for the earlier kind of bumper too, used on split bugs also. I have a Hella catalouge from the summer of 1958, where the diffrent kinds are on pictures...
Peter, you know me... the guy with the green/white split bus at the swap meet of Bug Run. =) |
Good information, thanks. _________________ "What a fool believes he sees, no wise man has the power to reason away." Dobee, Dobee, Do |
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ProjectX Accessory Nut
Joined: May 01, 2006 Posts: 1014
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Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2009 7:02 pm Post subject: |
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What is the difference of the mounts for the round lights or the oval lights???
I own a set of these and can't imagine what would change for round lights or oval lights to mount on the top.
I can tell you that just about any small Hella light will mount on the bumper horns, Marchal fog lights will not. _________________ Even my nuts are plated.....
195? Project "X"
1954 Oval Convertible |
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Evert Tersiqo Samba Member
Joined: January 03, 2005 Posts: 86 Location: Surabaya Indonesia
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Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2009 8:10 pm Post subject: Re: hella bumper guards + lamps |
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alexwoa wrote: |
hello,
the red rometsch's lamps are not correct.
it is selfexplaining because this are BOSCH ! lamps on hella bumper guards.
those bosch nipple lamps are very nice but not mixed with hella guards )
i have a set of original hellas for the bumpers left - so if anyone needs them - please email me.
best regards
alex |
Sent you an email already Alex, please check...danke... |
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Peter_Plade Samba Member
Joined: January 09, 2005 Posts: 551 Location: Denmark
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Posted: Sat Jan 17, 2009 12:57 am Post subject: |
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tomas persson wrote: |
Hi Mike and Peter,
There where 2 diffrent styles available... for round or oval shaped lights. One set o guards for each type. These where made for the earlier kind of bumper too, used on split bugs also. I have a Hella catalouge from the summer of 1958, where the diffrent kinds are on pictures...
Peter, you know me... the guy with the green/white split bus at the swap meet of Bug Run. =) |
Hello Tomas
Yes ofcourse I know you
I never seen that oval shaped lights that refer to, any pictures?
The round lights are in 2 versions, most of them with a big bracket on the back for mounting. But it´s possible to change that so that they will work as they were intended on the bumber guards.
I can post pictures later if anyone interested? _________________ http://vw-bluehats.blogspot.com/ |
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tomas persson Samba Member
Joined: December 09, 2002 Posts: 220 Location: Sweden
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Posted: Sat Jan 17, 2009 5:55 am Post subject: |
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Here comes the pictures for you... I can translate if wanted.
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ProjectX Accessory Nut
Joined: May 01, 2006 Posts: 1014
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Posted: Sat Jan 17, 2009 9:02 am Post subject: |
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OK, now I see. Those oval shaped lights won't mount on the bumper horn brackets. The stem on those sticks straight down.
The round lights you see pictured on the bumper horn brackets have a stem that leaves the light diagonally to the rear of the light, matching up with the bumper horn bracket.
I have a small set of round Hella lights with grille guards that I will be running on my set, they fit great. _________________ Even my nuts are plated.....
195? Project "X"
1954 Oval Convertible |
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tomas persson Samba Member
Joined: December 09, 2002 Posts: 220 Location: Sweden
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Posted: Sat Jan 17, 2009 1:19 pm Post subject: |
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Well, I think they would. The oval lights called "128ZN-4" are made to fit the guards called "16/117", and that the "110ZN-9" (dia 110mm) and the "130ZN-9" (dia 130mm) are made to fit the guards called "16/68". |
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IN2VWS Samba Member
Joined: January 29, 2006 Posts: 2521 Location: Australia
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Posted: Sat Jan 17, 2009 3:18 pm Post subject: |
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To add to the information Tomas has posted, here are some pics of the 2 styles of mounts from Hella catalogs.
Here are some pics from a 1950's Happich catalog which has one style of mount, but it is for both style lamps.
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tomas persson Samba Member
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Posted: Sat Jan 17, 2009 3:28 pm Post subject: |
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And I see that there are another size of the lamps also = 120 mm in dia. |
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IN2VWS Samba Member
Joined: January 29, 2006 Posts: 2521 Location: Australia
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Posted: Sat Jan 17, 2009 3:38 pm Post subject: |
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This is from a 1953 Happich catalog.
Beware, not all these mounts are for a VW. Sometimes people have sold DKW versions as VW.
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tomas persson Samba Member
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Posted: Sat Jan 17, 2009 3:46 pm Post subject: |
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Yes. In my catalog there are for Opel Olympia 51-52, Kapitän 51, Ford Taunus 12M and 15M, Mercedes 170S and 220, Borgward and DKW.
So beware... |
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