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action Samba Member
Joined: August 18, 2005 Posts: 51 Location: Valley Springs, Ca.
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Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2018 10:59 am Post subject: axle help |
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Hey all.....I have a buggy I am building. Pretty much all stock 74 vw bug suspension. I do have a bus transmission. I need axles for bus trans to bug stub axles. Is this possible ?
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Dale M. Samba Member
Joined: April 12, 2006 Posts: 20380 Location: Just a tiny bit west of Yosemite Valley
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Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2018 2:08 pm Post subject: Re: axle help |
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Possible yes, exactly how, not quite sure, think it takes a 15.5 inch axle with bus CV joint on trans end and bug CV on stub axle end...
Some one will clarify soon If I am wrong....
Dale _________________ “Fear The Government That Wants To Take Your Guns" - Thomas Jefferson.
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jsturtlebuggy Samba Member
Joined: August 24, 2005 Posts: 4496 Location: Fair Oaks/Orangevale, CA
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Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2018 3:09 pm Post subject: Re: axle help |
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The conversion axles in a Bus trans in a Bug chassis are 15-5/8in long.
With them you can use a Bus CV for the inner and a Bug CV on the outer.
Now if you want to run the stronger Bus CV on the outer you can buy aftermarket stub axles or have your stock Bug stub axle modified to use a Bus CV.
D.K. Machining&Fabrication in Norwalk, Ca can do can the stock Bug stub axles and modify them to fit the Bus CV and he also can modify them to use a Porsche 930 CV joint.
Don can be reached at (562) 864-9618. Don kepts very busy so sometimes you have to leave a message and he will get back to you.
I just had him do a set of Bug Stub axles to 930 CVs and they are a work of art.
Another way to go for stub axles to use for the Bus size CV joint is to use either Thing (type 181) or Porsche 924 stub axles.
There are many threads on doing what you are want to do, a search of the Samba will show a wealth of information. _________________ Joseph
Fair Oaks/Orangevale, CA
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action Samba Member
Joined: August 18, 2005 Posts: 51 Location: Valley Springs, Ca.
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Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2018 3:53 pm Post subject: Re: axle help |
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Thanks...was pretty sure what I could make work but trying to get off as cheap as possible for now. Just was unsure of an axle length.
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Vanapplebomb Samba Member
Joined: November 03, 2010 Posts: 5415 Location: Holland, MI
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Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2018 4:16 pm Post subject: Re: axle help |
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You may find the 15-5/8 axles too short. Give it a try, but if you run out of play in the axle at full drop, you need longer axles.
I have no idea why those conversion axles are so much shorter than they need to be. A bus transmission is slightly wider than a bug, but it is nowhere even close to that much wider to warrant axles that much shorter than stock. Sometimes they work, sometimes they don’t. A good length to try is 16-1/8, which is the thing/924 axle length. Much better than the 15-5/8 length if you ask me. _________________ 1800 Type 4 Berrien 295
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=487021
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jimmyhoffa Samba Member
Joined: February 16, 2014 Posts: 1058 Location: St. Louis
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Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2018 6:54 am Post subject: Re: axle help |
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I just went through all this, bought the 15-5/8" since it is the "prescribed" length for a bus trans nestled in a bug rear suspension. At full droop it was tugging in on the CVs, and with the axles level there was still 1"+ of side-to-side slop. Trading them out for 16-1/4" axles. Running stock Porsche 944 CVs and stubs.
I think you could get away with it if you limited the travel to stock beetle travel, but I have about 8.5" of clean travel in the back and 1" of travel blocked out by bump stops. _________________ 1974 Chenowth 2RL #1244 Street Legal
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