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viiking Samba Member
Joined: May 10, 2013 Posts: 2668 Location: Sydney Australia
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Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2018 3:11 pm Post subject: Machine options for repairing warped main bearing journal saddle |
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I have a matching numbers original 67 Beetle that's been in the family since new that I am restoring and have the dreaded "gaposis" on my #2 Main bearing journal saddle. The gap is quite excessive at about 15 thou but tapers from nothing at the side of the case where it is zero. It threw a rod journal but the mains themselves were OK apart from some scoring. I believe it was due to running low on oil when a relative drove it and didn't see the idiot light come on.
I know the normal answer is to say the case is junk but are there any other options other than the "heat it up for 8 hours at 400 degrees"? I can't see it recovering this much of a gap.
Given that the vehicle will only be used as a limited weekend driver, it will not get a lot of abuse and I want to keep the original engine number. (No I don't want to get another case and grind off the number).
I was wondering if anyone has had the saddle machined and an insert/shim made to bring the saddle back to tolerance?
One other option that has been suggested is to machine the case down along the mating flanges to bring the saddle back into alignment. From what I have researched this then causes issues with having to potentially rebore the camshaft journals, re-radius the oil pump hole (or machine the oil pump) and problems possibly with distributor drive gear and distributor gear alignment.
I have seen in the past that the factory suggests this machining as an option but the skimming of the case has to be limited to small quantities and then limited on the distributor side of the case to avoid issues.
Anyone out there got any options or any experience with any of these ideas? |
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bnam Samba Member
Joined: July 02, 2006 Posts: 2936 Location: El Dorado Hills CA/ Bangalore, India
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Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2018 3:36 pm Post subject: Re: Machine options for repairing warped main bearing journal saddle |
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The 1600DP engine on my KG is running with an insert on the saddles. I bought it with this mod in place.
Engines and cases are harder to come by in INdia and importing is expensive. So I'm not surprised to see this done.
Byas _________________ 1971 1302LS Convertible (RHD) owned since '74
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1965 Karmann Ghia Coupe - under restoration
1966 Fiat 1500 Cabrio (with 1600 Twin cam)
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Zundfolge1432 Samba Member
Joined: June 13, 2004 Posts: 12468
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Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2018 3:55 pm Post subject: Re: Machine options for repairing warped main bearing journal saddle |
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OP is talking about a warped case I think not oversized mains. |
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viiking Samba Member
Joined: May 10, 2013 Posts: 2668 Location: Sydney Australia
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Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2018 4:00 pm Post subject: Re: Machine options for repairing warped main bearing journal saddle |
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Zundfolge1432 wrote: |
OP is talking about a warped case I think not oversized mains. |
Yes I am talking about the flat surfaces not mating up together. |
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KTPhil Samba Member
Joined: April 06, 2006 Posts: 34021 Location: Conejo Valley, CA
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Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2018 4:04 pm Post subject: Re: Machine options for repairing warped main bearing journal saddle |
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You might ask in the Performance forum. This isn't a "performance" issue, but there are a lot of experienced engine builders over there who might have seen this. |
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[email protected] Samba Member
Joined: May 17, 2003 Posts: 4863 Location: Harmony, PA
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Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2018 4:15 pm Post subject: Re: Machine options for repairing warped main bearing journal saddle |
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Rimco used to machine the saddle down a little, and pin a small plate in place to take up the gap. Fat Performance has acquired Rimco, so not sure they offer this anymore. |
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anthracitedub Samba Member
Joined: June 20, 2007 Posts: 3241 Location: Michigan
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Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2018 5:53 pm Post subject: Re: Machine options for repairing warped main bearing journal saddle |
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I’d really just build another engine and keep the case as a decorative piece in the garage. |
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