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HippieCPA Samba Member
Joined: December 12, 2018 Posts: 13 Location: Charlotte
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Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2018 6:51 pm Post subject: Advice needed: Building a split window |
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Longtime fan, first time caller here! I've long had dreams of buying a split window and fulfilling my dreams. For years I've delayed the decision and mainly due to cost OR having to wait a year to have my local shop rebuild one. So I have been looking lately at Brazilian buses and I am sure I'd get some flack here but I do have questions for those that wish to help. I'd greatly appreciate the feedback.
I'd be looking to buy a 71 to 75 split but due to my extensive volunteering with the Boy Scouts I'd need a camper insert. (See... I'm old and the kids have to tent it...I can crash in the bus!) I rarely have time for mechanical work these days so I'd prefer one in better mechanical shape especially so I don't have to worry wife and kids breaking down too much.
Here si a link at one I'm looking at: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/12tmLA_aLBgQLM6ysMEc8zYDvj5sT4RuH
My questions are:
1. What sized engine would be best to look for? 1,500?
2. Is the fresh air vent something I definitely want to look for? Mind you we live in NC and it is so hot and humid here!
3. On that note would safari windows even help with humid days here?
4. How helpful is a Swamp cooler?
5. What else should I be looking for?
Thanks much! |
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Lind Samba Member
Joined: November 06, 2000 Posts: 9915 Location: idaho
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Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2018 7:12 pm Post subject: Re: Advice needed: Building a split window |
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HippieCPA wrote: |
Longtime fan, first time caller here! I've long had dreams of buying a split window and fulfilling my dreams. For years I've delayed the decision and mainly due to cost OR having to wait a year to have my local shop rebuild one. So I have been looking lately at Brazilian buses and I am sure I'd get some flack here but I do have questions for those that wish to help. I'd greatly appreciate the feedback.
I'd be looking to buy a 71 to 75 split but due to my extensive volunteering with the Boy Scouts I'd need a camper insert. (See... I'm old and the kids have to tent it...I can crash in the bus!) I rarely have time for mechanical work these days so I'd prefer one in better mechanical shape especially so I don't have to worry wife and kids breaking down too much.
Here si a link at one I'm looking at: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/12tmLA_aLBgQLM6ysMEc8zYDvj5sT4RuH
My questions are:
1. What sized engine would be best to look for? 1,500?
2. Is the fresh air vent something I definitely want to look for? Mind you we live in NC and it is so hot and humid here!
3. On that note would safari windows even help with humid days here?
4. How helpful is a Swamp cooler?
5. What else should I be looking for?
Thanks much! |
You absolutely must have your local shop approve any purchase before you buy.
Expect that any bus, no matter how nice it appears will need thousands of dollars in repairs, and will take more than a year before it is dialed in. _________________ .
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Eric&Barb Samba Member
Joined: September 19, 2004 Posts: 24764 Location: Olympia Wash Rinse & Repeat
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Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2018 8:56 pm Post subject: Re: Advice needed: Building a split window |
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HippieCPA wrote: |
My questions are:
1. What sized engine would be best to look for? 1,500?
2. Is the fresh air vent something I definitely want to look for? Mind you we live in NC and it is so hot and humid here!
3. On that note would safari windows even help with humid days here?
4. How helpful is a Swamp cooler?
5. What else should I be looking for?
Thanks much! |
1. Depends on your need for speed and power. Some folks will not be happy with anything less than a V-8.
2. See below.
3. Do you not like having a fan to blow on you during hot days?? If yes, then you will want anyway to get air to blow over you.
4. A swamp cooler works only well in areas with low humidity. Got high humidity??
5. Do lots of reading up in this forum and do go thru the FAQs at the top. _________________ In Stereo, Where Available! |
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Who.Me? Samba Member
Joined: July 14, 2014 Posts: 2211 Location: UK (South)
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Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2018 12:48 am Post subject: Re: Advice needed: Building a split window |
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Lind wrote: |
Any bus, no matter how nice it appears will need thousands of dollars in repairs, and will take more than a year before it is dialed in. |
Everett should make that ^^^ alt-text on the '..when your daily driver isn't enough' tagline on the site banner. _________________ Andy
Looking for info on my truck's history. Are you from Campbell California or nearby. Do you recognise it? ... http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=636786 |
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EverettB Administrator
Joined: April 11, 2000 Posts: 69824 Location: Phoenix Metro
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Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2018 9:10 am Post subject: Re: Advice needed: Building a split window |
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Who.Me? wrote: |
Lind wrote: |
Any bus, no matter how nice it appears will need thousands of dollars in repairs, and will take more than a year before it is dialed in. |
Everett should make that ^^^ alt-text on the '..when your daily driver isn't enough' tagline on the site banner. |
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62DoKaGuy Samba Member
Joined: May 22, 2011 Posts: 1276 Location: Surprise, AZ
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Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2018 9:13 am Post subject: Re: Advice needed: Building a split window |
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EverettB wrote: |
Who.Me? wrote: |
Lind wrote: |
Any bus, no matter how nice it appears will need thousands of dollars in repairs, and will take more than a year before it is dialed in. |
Everett should make that ^^^ alt-text on the '..when your daily driver isn't enough' tagline on the site banner. |
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A year sounds like you're giving some of us too much hope hahaha. _________________ ,,Wenige Menschen denken, und doch wollen alle entscheiden.'' -der Alte Fritz
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...I went at it from both ends but going from the rear didn't seem to do anything, although I did spray some rust breaker in there... |
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Gwdghiaguy Samba Member
Joined: December 06, 2013 Posts: 340 Location: Greenwood, SC
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Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2018 9:52 am Post subject: Re: Advice needed: Building a split window |
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EverettB wrote: |
Who.Me? wrote: |
Lind wrote: |
Any bus, no matter how nice it appears will need thousands of dollars in repairs, and will take more than a year before it is dialed in. |
Everett should make that ^^^ alt-text on the '..when your daily driver isn't enough' tagline on the site banner. |
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Who.Me? Samba Member
Joined: July 14, 2014 Posts: 2211 Location: UK (South)
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Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2018 10:46 am Post subject: Re: Advice needed: Building a split window |
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EverettB wrote: |
Who.Me? wrote: |
Lind wrote: |
Any bus, no matter how nice it appears will need thousands of dollars in repairs, and will take more than a year before it is dialed in. |
Everett should make that ^^^ alt-text on the '..when your daily driver isn't enough' tagline on the site banner. |
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I like it. _________________ Andy
Looking for info on my truck's history. Are you from Campbell California or nearby. Do you recognise it? ... http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=636786 |
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vwuberalles Samba Member
Joined: October 18, 2003 Posts: 1357 Location: Richmond, VA
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Eric&Barb Samba Member
Joined: September 19, 2004 Posts: 24764 Location: Olympia Wash Rinse & Repeat
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Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2018 12:27 pm Post subject: Re: Advice needed: Building a split window |
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vwuberalles wrote: |
Would a swamp cooler even work on a split bus? Don't they attach at the top of a roll-up window? |
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Abscate Samba Member
Joined: October 05, 2014 Posts: 22668 Location: NYC/Upstate/ROW
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Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2018 12:34 pm Post subject: Re: Advice needed: Building a split window |
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vwuberalles wrote: |
Would a swamp cooler even work on a split bus? Don't they attach at the top of a roll-up window? |
They don’t work on any Bus, especially in VA. _________________ .ssS! |
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Jensers Samba Member
Joined: January 20, 2005 Posts: 54 Location: Royal City, Wa
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Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2018 12:58 pm Post subject: Re: Advice needed: Building a split window |
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vwuberalles Samba Member
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Eric&Barb Samba Member
Joined: September 19, 2004 Posts: 24764 Location: Olympia Wash Rinse & Repeat
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Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2018 9:17 am Post subject: Re: Advice needed: Building a split window |
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vwuberalles wrote: |
ahh, ok I was thinking of these for some reason: |
That is because those are very visible to those outside the automobile.
The interior ones are designed for most automobiles down behind the front seat and has legs that can be adjusted downward so the cooler can stand over the floor drive line hump. So this type of cooler is not as visible and thusly not as desired for show and tell. _________________ In Stereo, Where Available! |
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Z Samba Member
Joined: June 15, 2003 Posts: 2517 Location: galveston, tx
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Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2018 9:50 am Post subject: Re: Advice needed: Building a split window |
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EverettB wrote: |
Who.Me? wrote: |
Lind wrote: |
Any bus, no matter how nice it appears will need thousands of dollars in repairs, and will take more than a year before it is dialed in. |
Everett should make that ^^^ alt-text on the '..when your daily driver isn't enough' tagline on the site banner. |
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I would buy this sticker, etc., in a heartbeat... |
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Z Samba Member
Joined: June 15, 2003 Posts: 2517 Location: galveston, tx
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Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2018 10:35 am Post subject: Re: Advice needed: Building a split window |
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x2 on what was said above. If you won't be working on it, you'll need a good local shop involved, and pre-purchase is the time to involve them.
The power you have/need depends on a lot beyond engine size, so lots more to consider on that front. Many discussions to be found in the forums.
The fresh air vent is on all busses (since 55, etc.), so you shouldn't have to look for it? It's handy, and every little bit helps when it's hot. The bus you gave a link to has an unusual looking cover on the vent box....
Safari's are nice. They can be made to seal out rain pretty well, but their sealing issues are worth considering. When its hot and I'm sweaty, ANY wind is good, so I like them.
Swamp coolers don't work with humid environments, IMO.
Generally speaking, getting a bus is great. Getting one that you can hop in and just go drive any distance you want is possible, but not likely. The odds are, you will need to sort some (a lot of) things out first. There is a TON of info here. Start with the FAQs, read, ask questions, etc.
Good luck! |
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HippieCPA Samba Member
Joined: December 12, 2018 Posts: 13 Location: Charlotte
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Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2018 11:08 am Post subject: Re: Advice needed: Building a split window |
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Thanks sommbfor the advice so far. Very helpful. Please keep thoughts and tips coming. |
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hitest Samba Member
Joined: September 30, 2008 Posts: 10296 Location: Prime Meridian, ID
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Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2018 11:17 am Post subject: Re: Advice needed: Building a split window |
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Swamp coolers in my opinion should never be used in a parked vehicle. They provide possibly cooler, but very damp air- resulting in more humidity than any 50 year old camper should endure. All wood, textiles- every non-porous material will suffer to some degree. Going down the road- sure. Plenty of air exchange and drying inside happens. But if you want an old camper to have the creature comforts of a converted MB Sprinter- maybe a vintage bus is not the answer. I'm harsh but being honest here. _________________
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I wonder what the nut looks like.
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mandraks Samba Member
Joined: November 28, 2004 Posts: 7050 Location: Lawrenceville, Ga
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Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2018 2:18 pm Post subject: Re: Advice needed: Building a split window |
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hitest wrote: |
Swamp coolers in my opinion should never be used in a parked vehicle. They provide possibly cooler, but very damp air- resulting in more humidity than any 50 year old camper should endure. All wood, textiles- every non-porous material will suffer to some degree. Going down the road- sure. Plenty of air exchange and drying inside happens. But if you want an old camper to have the creature comforts of a converted MB Sprinter- maybe a vintage bus is not the answer. I'm harsh but being honest here. |
i was thinking 1970/80s A-team van. They come with AIR... cool custom paint job _________________ regards
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Jensers Samba Member
Joined: January 20, 2005 Posts: 54 Location: Royal City, Wa
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Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2018 3:11 pm Post subject: Re: Advice needed: Building a split window |
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$113 for a 115V AC unit you hang out the window and stay as cool as a cucumber while you sleep. You will need power - yes, but so will any vintage option.
I understand you to be asking about cooling options while on camp-outs with boy scouts so you can sleep in the bus? Not while driving around? _________________ - Jens |
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