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Jake84
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 Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2018 11:29 am Post subject: First VW build 71 Super Beetle |
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Hello all,
I usually am a Chevy guy, but got a great deal on this VW beetle. Couldn’t pass it up. This came as a non running project car, and about 20 boxes of new parts! YAY! Couple engines, couple trans, extra everything.
Finally got a bunch of stuff sorted and organized.
The PO had kept this inside for the last 25 years. VERY solid. Couple weird things...
PO cut out rear deck vents. And cut out dash. How important is the rear vent? (VERY?)
Anyway. More pictures to come!
~Jake[/img]
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Jake84
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| Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2018 11:40 am Post subject: Re: First VW build 71 Super Beetle |
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Lots of parts.....
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Starbucket
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| Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2018 1:53 pm Post subject: Re: First VW build 71 Super Beetle |
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| Buy the Bently Manual for your year. Amazon or Classifieds on here it is the VW Bible on how every thing works and goes together. Great buy. |
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Deebs
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| Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2018 3:57 pm Post subject: Re: First VW build 71 Super Beetle |
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Have fun with it!
I've got a 71 Super as well, lemme know if you have extra parts  |
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Buggeee
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| Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2018 9:07 pm Post subject: Re: First VW build 71 Super Beetle |
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Awesome Project!
Yes, the rear vents are very important. That's how the air gets into the engine comparment to cool the engine. There should also be vents in the rear deck lid as this year had a 1600 dual port engine, powerful and hot and needy for cooling air.
The ancient bugs with little 40 hp engines did not have vents in the deck lid but even those had vents under the rear window to let air into the engine compartment. From there it gets sucked through the fan shroud and blown over the cylinders to keep it cool.
So... basically that modification right there is like deleting the front radiator grill on a Chevy.
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Maddel
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| Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2018 10:32 pm Post subject: Re: First VW build 71 Super Beetle |
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| Jake84 wrote: |
PO cut out rear deck vents. And cut out dash. How important is the rear vent? (VERY) |
Like Buggeee stated above - the vents below the rear window are VITAL for an AC engine set up.
The rear apron is modified too - no tail pipe cut outs.
May be the PO had planned a non stock motor set up - water cooled or whatever... |
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Jake84
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| Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2018 6:58 am Post subject: Re: First VW build 71 Super Beetle |
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I have a second roof with the rear grill still in it so I will end up cutting the factory grill off it and replacing it. The PO was going to chop the top and do some major mods to it before I bought it. I am building this one for my wife and she loves the factory look. I tend to agree. I need to find a donor beetle to cut the dash out of and replace that as well. The PO cut out and deleted everything on the dash for the same smooth look.
I still have to weld the pans in and plan on chassis coating the frame and getting the chassis on wheels.
Orange Bentley manual is ordered. Looks like I have some reading to do!
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volksworld
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| Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2018 7:33 am Post subject: Re: First VW build 71 Super Beetle |
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| convertibles eliminated the cooling vents under the rear window...but their decklids had cooling slots instead right back to oval windows....when standard bugs had 2 sets of slots the same year convert had 4....so if you really love the look you could be able to get away with it with a 4 slot decklid(think the aftermarket ones have a couple extra slots on the end rows) and maybe cut out the vent under the plate light like a california car....but if it was mine i'd just put the original louvers back in |
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Buggeee
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| Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2018 10:30 am Post subject: Re: First VW build 71 Super Beetle |
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| volksworld wrote: |
| convertibles eliminated the cooling vents under the rear window...but their decklids had cooling slots instead right back to oval windows....when standard bugs had 2 sets of slots the same year convert had 4....so if you really love the look you could be able to get away with it with a 4 slot decklid(think the aftermarket ones have a couple extra slots on the end rows) and maybe cut out the vent under the plate light like a california car....but if it was mine i'd just put the original louvers back in |
Another work around might also be to use deck lid stand-offs, but I think that is to supplement the factory air-cooling rather than a substitute. I'd put the originals back in too... especially since you have the additional roof clip anyway. That spot under the rear window is a low pressure area in the aerodynamics of the car so the placement of them there is driven by engineering rather than appearance.
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| Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2018 10:53 am Post subject: Re: First VW build 71 Super Beetle |
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Unless you have some sort of fisheye lens action goin on, that pan took one helluva shot at the rear suspension. You will need a at least the left trailing arm & spring plate, make sure the rest is square before sinking too much time into it.
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Jake84
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| Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2018 11:43 am Post subject: Re: First VW build 71 Super Beetle |
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| TDCTDI wrote: |
| Unless you have some sort of fisheye lens action goin on, that pan took one helluva shot at the rear suspension. You will need a at least the left trailing arm & spring plate, make sure the rest is square before sinking too much time into it. |
The rear suspension is not bolted in. I just stuck them in to see what all else I needed for mock up.
I plan on welding in the vents now that I have heard all your guy’s input.
I have a LOT of figuring out to do. I got BOXES and BOXES of unlabeled parts. Should be a fun puzzle.
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