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YosemiteBound Samba Member
Joined: August 09, 2018 Posts: 327 Location: Los Angeles
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Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2018 3:56 pm Post subject: Go Westy Aux Battery Kit Install Methods |
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Troops,
I'm about to try and undertake this job. I know that the GW Aux Kit isn't the favored one here - but I purchased it a couple months ago - prior to reading all of these threads.
Now that I have the GW kit - I wasn't able to find the answers (while searching) to a few questions I have:
1) Do I truly need to remove the driver's seat and cut through the metal swivel seat with a saw to access this area? Is there any way around this? It seems SO crude. And not something I knew I was going to need to do. I got the GW battery too - which is a smaller aux one. Has anyone figured out a way to slide the seat forward or something and be able to stick the battery and install the relay etc without cutting through the swivel seat? I also got the charger - but I wouldn't cut through the swivel just to install that there. I bet someone here has found a better spot for it (like inside the cabinetry).
2) Is there any alternative to cutting through the fuse box wires and taping them off? I have an 85.
Thanks so much for any help. Huzzah to the endless jobs! Leaving for Seattle (from LA) with the fam on Friday and have to finish this, putting in a new rear heater core and some radiator baffles before leaving AND work a full time job... and raise a toddler. _________________ 1985 Westy Round Headlights "Liam" |
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cmayna Samba Member
Joined: August 18, 2014 Posts: 1148 Location: SF Bay area, CA
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Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2018 7:25 pm Post subject: Re: Go Westy Aux Battery Kit Install Methods |
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Could you live without doing this mod for the time being and do it when you get back from Seattle? I know very little on the details of doing this mod but if I knew I was departing soon, I would question myself if I should do it right now. _________________ '90 Westy / automatic.
If I'm not working on the camper or my '50 Chebbie truck, I'm either fishing with the wife or smoking Salmon.
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YosemiteBound Samba Member
Joined: August 09, 2018 Posts: 327 Location: Los Angeles
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Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2018 7:38 pm Post subject: Re: Go Westy Aux Battery Kit Install Methods |
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cmayna wrote: |
Could you live without doing this mod for the time being and do it when you get back from Seattle? I know very little on the details of doing this mod but if I knew I was departing soon, I would question myself if I should do it right now. |
Good point. _________________ 1985 Westy Round Headlights "Liam" |
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Phaedrus Samba Member
Joined: January 06, 2014 Posts: 500 Location: Washington
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Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2018 8:03 pm Post subject: Re: Go Westy Aux Battery Kit Install Methods |
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Unless you absolutely need the aux power, I'd hold off too. I really despise that aux kit... They make some great parts and mods, but that thing is trash. You will need to replace it soon if you want to tap into any serious aux power system. Grab a Yandina combiner and just wire into your main batt in parallel, imo. If you have a full Westy, you will have to splice in at your fuse box in order to redirect the camper circuits to your aux batt. _________________ 1986 WBX (Tin Top Camper) |
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YosemiteBound Samba Member
Joined: August 09, 2018 Posts: 327 Location: Los Angeles
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Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2018 8:59 pm Post subject: Re: Go Westy Aux Battery Kit Install Methods |
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Dang. Unsure how to proceed with this thing now. We def need aux power for the stereo and reading lights as we camp... And I have this setup and the battery.
Anyone have luck with it? _________________ 1985 Westy Round Headlights "Liam" |
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67SingleCabGuy Samba Member
Joined: August 27, 2003 Posts: 193
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Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2018 9:11 pm Post subject: Re: Go Westy Aux Battery Kit Install Methods |
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YosemiteBound wrote: |
Troops,
I know that the GW Aux Kit isn't the favored one here |
OK now you have my attention as I had no idea this Kit was supposedly junk and bought it months ago during a SALE and was going to put it in Spring time.
SO what is the preferred method of hooking up an Aux Battery.
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VicVan Samba Member
Joined: July 01, 2015 Posts: 1845 Location: Vancouver Island, BC
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Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2018 10:03 pm Post subject: Re: Go Westy Aux Battery Kit Install Methods |
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YosemiteBound wrote: |
Dang. Unsure how to proceed with this thing now. We def need aux power for the stereo and reading lights as we camp... And I have this setup and the battery.
Anyone have luck with it? |
If it's just a couple of LEDs and a couple of hours of music, your starter battery will do (if well charged and in good shape). Monitor the voltage.
How many days without starting the engine do you expect to camp each time ? _________________ '90 Little Blue Truck, 2WD auto, FAS GenV 2.0 NA (AVH) |
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Abscate Samba Member
Joined: October 05, 2014 Posts: 22670 Location: NYC/Upstate/ROW
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Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2018 4:24 am Post subject: Re: Go Westy Aux Battery Kit Install Methods |
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By an aux battery pack and either use that for your modest power needs or use your car battery and jump start as needed.
The first step of any aux power install is to evaluate needs, not buy hardware
90% of DIY dont possess the skill to safely install aux power , either. Maybe 95%. _________________ .ssS! |
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MarkWard Samba Member
Joined: February 09, 2005 Posts: 17155 Location: Retired South Florida
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Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2018 5:35 am Post subject: Re: Go Westy Aux Battery Kit Install Methods |
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I don't know why they have you cut through the swivel seat base. GW was removing the seat swivel for installing a Recaro driver's seat. If you don't plan to remove the seat base, I would not cut it up. _________________ ☮️ |
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mikemtnbike Samba Member
Joined: March 26, 2015 Posts: 2797 Location: North Carolina
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Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2018 6:10 am Post subject: Re: Go Westy Aux Battery Kit Install Methods |
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YB: I also bought the GW aux battery kit before I knew it was "junk." It's been working just fine for me for almost 2 years, we run a fan, lights, and charge things off it mostly- use a bluetooth speaker in camp rather than the van stereo which, on my van, is wired in differently because of the amp under passenger seat and doesn't work with the kit.
Anyway, just saying, it might not be the preferred set up, but it works so I ain't going to fix it. _________________ 1991 Vanagon GL 2.1 AT Westfauxlia. "Frankie" Totaled https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=764510&highlight=carnage
1995 Eurovan Camper "Marzivan"
2020 GTI SE manual |
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crazyvwvanman Samba Member
Joined: January 28, 2008 Posts: 9939 Location: Orbiting San Diego
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Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2018 6:43 am Post subject: Re: Go Westy Aux Battery Kit Install Methods |
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The GoWesty kit "works" as lots of people know, it is just inferior in some respects as others have learned the hard way.
If your aux charging needs are small enough, the GW setup may be enough.
To get best access to the area under the driver seat, remove the driver seat and then spin the seat swivel plate 180 degrees. It doesn't block the battery recess when turned 180 degrees.
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82westyrabbit Samba Member
Joined: March 02, 2015 Posts: 969 Location: Ma
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Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2018 7:31 am Post subject: Re: Go Westy Aux Battery Kit Install Methods |
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Hi Yosemite Bound. There is no way I would cut out the swivel base. I have watched the gowesty video on how to install the aux battery kit. In the video it says the base was removed to install aftermarket seats not to install the battery kit. If you already have the battery and the kit you could just install the battery with a full charge and use it without the ability to charge it until you get as far as installing the rest of the kit. I have a small battery powered lantern I hang from the pop top bar for light that I also use when I camp in a tent(about half the time). For music I use a blue tooth speaker. When I camp with my family I have to run a medical device off the vans battery which uses more power than your lights and radio. I just bring a spare battery to jumpstart the van but it has never been necessary. I would like to have a aux battery set up but it has not made it to the top of my list yet. I say just go camping. John |
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porterbrown Samba Member
Joined: February 25, 2005 Posts: 718 Location: Bentonville, AR
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Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2018 7:45 am Post subject: Re: Go Westy Aux Battery Kit Install Methods |
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Here's the instructional video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JRm1eUSJcnU
He's installing under a non-swivel seat. As crazyvwvanman noted, for the swivel, you just spin it 180 degrees. _________________ '90 Westfalia GL Automatic |
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67SingleCabGuy Samba Member
Joined: August 27, 2003 Posts: 193
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Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2018 8:07 am Post subject: Re: Go Westy Aux Battery Kit Install Methods |
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crazyvwvanman wrote: |
The GoWesty kit "works" as lots of people know, it is just inferior in some respects as others have learned the hard way.
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Would someone be able to post a link or links to what the best available way is to hook up an Aux battery?
I'm searching and getting a lot of threads talking about Aux battery but yet to find one where people discuss various methods to install one.
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ledogboy Samba Member
Joined: September 19, 2005 Posts: 578 Location: Scappoose, OR / Oakland, CA
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Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2018 9:58 am Post subject: Re: Go Westy Aux Battery Kit Install Methods |
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67SingleCabGuy wrote: |
crazyvwvanman wrote: |
The GoWesty kit "works" as lots of people know, it is just inferior in some respects as others have learned the hard way.
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Would someone be able to post a link or links to what the best available way is to hook up an Aux battery?
I'm searching and getting a lot of threads talking about Aux battery but yet to find one where people discuss various methods to install one.
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Check the FAQ- there are many, many threads with myriad approaches. _________________ 1986 Westy Weekender
Now a full camper
1.8t Syncro conversion
Some people call him Maurice... |
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AZ Landshaper Samba Member
Joined: February 08, 2009 Posts: 1698 Location: The Old Pueblo
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Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2018 10:03 am Post subject: Re: Go Westy Aux Battery Kit Install Methods |
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Turn the seat and remove it. Turn the swivel to access the space. Its real easy to remove the seat base and reinstall as well. _________________ Support Small Business.
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85 Weekender w/ EJ22
Previously
64, 71, 72, 73, 76, 81, 84, 85 & 87 Campmobiles and Westfalias
and a 67 bug. |
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westyventures Samba Member
Joined: December 29, 2004 Posts: 2306 Location: Oregon Outback
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Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2018 12:09 pm Post subject: Re: Go Westy Aux Battery Kit Install Methods |
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If you want the best possible outcome from this, route an 8-gauge wire out the main battery compartment, under the floor, and into the aux battery box. Fuse where it connects to the main battery + terminal. Use HD grommets in the holes where the cable goes through the boxes. Then disregard using any red wires off the existing relay under the seat as GW instructs. The new cable, connect to one side of the relay on the large terminal, the other route another 8-gauge wire to the + of the new aux battery. Doing this alleviates the biggest problem in this so-called 'kit' - the decreased charge voltage inherent in how they designed it. Your battery will last much longer since it will now receive a full charge. Also, if you are running a wbx, replace the voltage regulator in the alternator with the adjustable unit from davebarton.com, adjusted to 14.2V. But then, if you had just bought the excellent Victron Energy Cyrix-ct 12/24V-120A Intelligent Battery Combiner, some wire and terminals...you'd have a more reliable system all around. (sorry, 'Yandina lovers' - the Victron is a better product) |
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