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Stuartzickefoose
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 Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2019 11:28 am Post subject: Re: Step by step: How to reverse the rotation of a 1.8T (06A block) |
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| foodeater wrote: |
| This might be way off, but would the pump really need to run in reverse, or would you be able to keep the pump running forward, but change the sequence of the fuel lines, by moving them around on the output side of the pump, or changing which injector the line would go to? |
Im just spouting a guess here, but i would think of it like putting the passat trans or the Subaru trans in a van....5 reverse gears and one forward gear.
4 inlets and one outlet.
Among other things like a one way valve and other such things...i really haven’t studied the design at all or how it works.
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?Waldo?
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| Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2019 11:55 am Post subject: Re: Step by step: How to reverse the rotation of a 1.8T (06A block) |
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| foodeater wrote: |
| This might be way off, but would the pump really need to run in reverse, or would you be able to keep the pump running forward, but change the sequence of the fuel lines, by moving them around on the output side of the pump, or changing which injector the line would go to? |
That's an interesting thought. I believe switching the lines would eliminate the need for a CCW high pressure plunger head assembly (at the cost of custom/bent fuel lines), but the dynamic advance would still need to be reversed (drilled case, flipped advance piston/spring).
This appears to be a correct CCW rotating pump.
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Land-Rover-Freelander-0...rk:60:pf:0 |
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Stuartzickefoose
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| Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2019 12:09 pm Post subject: Re: Step by step: How to reverse the rotation of a 1.8T (06A block) |
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So 2.5 pages later...
When are we gonna make a thread for reversing the TDI? 
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vanagonjr
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| Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2019 7:19 pm Post subject: Re: Step by step: How to reverse the rotation of a 1.8T (06A block) |
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| Stuartzickefoose wrote: |
So 2.5 pages later...
When are we gonna make a thread for reversing the TDI? |
I think that is a good idea so this thread stays for the 1.8TCCW/
Can the moderators, move some posts and make a new thread?
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Zeitgeist 13
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| Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2019 7:45 pm Post subject: Re: Step by step: How to reverse the rotation of a 1.8T (06A block) |
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Move this one too...
Could you use a pump from a 2.5 TDI, since I believe they're CCW. Then swap out the five cyl. head and cam plate for a four cyl.
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ndorian
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| Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2019 9:06 pm Post subject: Re: Step by step: How to reverse the rotation of a 1.8T (06A block) |
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| Noob question, CCW? |
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ledogboy 
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| Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2019 9:12 pm Post subject: Re: Step by step: How to reverse the rotation of a 1.8T (06A block) |
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| Noob question, CCW? |
Counter clockwise. Enjoy the magic:
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=551286
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?Waldo?
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| Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2019 9:52 pm Post subject: Re: Step by step: How to reverse the rotation of a 1.8T (06A block) |
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| Zeitgeist 13 wrote: |
Move this one too...
Could you use a pump from a 2.5 TDI, since I believe they're CCW. Then swap out the five cyl. head and cam plate for a four cyl. |
I'm not specifically familiar with the 2.5 5-cyl pump but I would assume, yes, but again I think it's less than ideal. You'd still either need to source a CCW plunger/head assembly or else switch which metal line connected to which delivery valve/injector. Also, not just the plunger head would need to be swapped. You'd also need to swap the camplate, rollers, roller cage as those are also different between the 4 cyl and 5 cyl.
I think the freelander pump I linked previously would be a lot easier of an option. It appears to be a 10mm plunger/head, CCW rotating, full electronic pump. It could probably be swapped right in to run the ALH CCW. |
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ndorian
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| Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2019 10:33 pm Post subject: Re: Step by step: How to reverse the rotation of a 1.8T (06A block) |
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| Ok, thanks ledogboy. Way beyond myself. |
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Stuartzickefoose
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| Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2019 9:25 am Post subject: Re: Step by step: How to reverse the rotation of a 1.8T (06A block) |
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| Zeitgeist 13 wrote: |
Move this one too...
Could you use a pump from a 2.5 TDI, since I believe they're CCW. Then swap out the five cyl. head and cam plate for a four cyl. |
At that point id just source a 5 cyl. The whole engine ...yeah hard to find but if it already rotates the right way...
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| Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2019 9:54 am Post subject: Re: Step by step: How to reverse the rotation of a 1.8T (06A block) |
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| Stuartzickefoose wrote: |
| Zeitgeist 13 wrote: |
Move this one too...
Could you use a pump from a 2.5 TDI, since I believe they're CCW. Then swap out the five cyl. head and cam plate for a four cyl. |
At that point id just source a 5 cyl. The whole engine ...yeah hard to find but if it already rotates the right way... |
The 5cyl engine still turns clockwise, the fuel pump is driven from the other side of the cam so it turns counterclockwise if your looking at the pulley. |
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| Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2019 3:41 pm Post subject: Re: Step by step: How to reverse the rotation of a 1.8T (06A block) |
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https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Audi-A6-Allroad-C5-2-7t...:rk:2:pf:0
This listing is for the super rare low range gearbox full conversion kit which is in fully working order. This is from a 2001 Audi A6 C5 allroad 2.7t
Parts included are
Gearbox with low range shift stage
Gearbox mounts
Propshaft (rear section is damaged see pics)
Drive shafts
Rear diff with matching ratios
Hydraulic pump and lines for low range selection
Low range ECU and wiring
Gearstick and selector mech with low range button
Hydraulic fluid reservoir
Located in central Scotland, shipping will be very expensive however I will stick it all on a pallet if required at buyers expense. Alternatively and preferably local collection is available. |
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tristessa
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| Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2019 10:38 pm Post subject: Re: Step by step: How to reverse the rotation of a 1.8T (06A block) |
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| You're a bad, bad man Mr. Flint. Now I'm eyeballing 6-speeds, trying to see if they'll fit in a Bay without hacking the torsion housing or having silly CV angles. |
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| Posted: Wed May 15, 2019 12:16 am Post subject: Re: Step by step: How to reverse the rotation of a 1.8T (06A block) |
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Hi,
I have a question,because in Germany is it difficult to change the Engine in the Vehicle Papers because of exhaust laws...
Have anyone ever make a exhaust test with your reverse 1,8T?
Is the exhaust composition the same as the normal direction 1,8T?
Greetings
Christian (from Germany) |
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pechaaa
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| Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2019 11:42 pm Post subject: Re: Step by step: How to reverse the rotation of a 1.8T (06A block) |
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I cant express my gratitute in words!
Will prepare for this and do full build next winter.
Question- can I use VVT engine?
Just want to double confirm that.
BAM 225HP
forged crank
small port
VVT
K04
electronic throttle
20MM |
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xoo00oox
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| Posted: Tue Nov 12, 2019 6:39 am Post subject: Re: Step by step: How to reverse the rotation of a 1.8T (06A block) |
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| pechaaa wrote: |
I cant express my gratitute in words!
Will prepare for this and do full build next winter.
Question- can I use VVT engine?
Just want to double confirm that.
BAM 225HP
forged crank
small port
VVT
K04
electronic throttle
20MM |
Yes, the cam chain tensioner I have noted (#078109087F) is for use with VVT. |
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pechaaa
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| Posted: Tue Nov 26, 2019 1:26 pm Post subject: Re: Step by step: How to reverse the rotation of a 1.8T (06A block) |
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| Have you tried to do it with early 058 block? |
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pechaaa
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| Posted: Wed Nov 27, 2019 12:55 am Post subject: Re: Step by step: How to reverse the rotation of a 1.8T (06A block) |
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As my friend heard about my plan to reverse engine- made a suprise and got me a present- 058 and gearbox (as he works at wreckers).
Will reverse this winter. |
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