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calvinater
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 Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2018 4:45 pm Post subject: Two chains and a tire |
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Helped my buddy extract his one ton chevy dump/plow truck from off road this morning. Used my old gmc 2500 , two logging chains and an old tire between the chains. Yanking back worked great. Some how the tire is able to cushion the force , yet seemed to multiply it as well. Not sure how , but i am convinced of the method.
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TDCTDI
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| Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2018 4:53 pm Post subject: Re: Two chains and a tire |
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Same theory as "snatch straps" except that the straps aren't as likely to do major damage if something fails, like a tire.
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mukluk
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| Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2018 4:56 pm Post subject: Re: Two chains and a tire |
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In essence you made a variation of a snatch strap. While innovative and it worked OK in this instance, it's highly discouraged to shock load chains as they can easily turn into deadly missiles should they break under load.
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calvinater
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| Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2018 4:57 pm Post subject: Re: Two chains and a tire |
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He had a guy with those straps last night, broke two of them, hard to pull a tire in half.
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mukluk
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| Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2018 11:15 pm Post subject: Re: Two chains and a tire |
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It's not the tire you have to worry about.
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| Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2018 2:28 am Post subject: Re: Two chains and a tire |
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| Yep, there’s a video of some kids muddin’ and pulling a Jeep with a chain... it breaks.... worst site I’ve ever seen. |
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TDCTDI
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| Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2018 4:45 am Post subject: Re: Two chains and a tire |
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| anthracitedub wrote: |
| Yep, there’s a video of some kids muddin’ and pulling a Jeep with a chain... it breaks.... worst site I’ve ever seen. |
Yup. It ain’t for the squeamish & there’s no gory close ups but here’s the vid.
Link
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calvinater
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| Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2018 5:01 am Post subject: Re: Two chains and a tire |
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Ouch , guess ill look for some tow straps
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skills@eurocarsplus
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| Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2018 8:06 am Post subject: Re: Two chains and a tire |
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wow....
that was probably the most aggressive use of a chain I have seen. guess these mudders aren't very bright. you never shock load a chain like that.
there is a part 2 to that vid, the drivers jaw got ripped off. some say he died, but I haven confirmed that.
guess they ran out of money for a winch, which is really what they needed.
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TDCTDI
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| Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2018 1:40 pm Post subject: Re: Two chains and a tire |
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NOPE! I ain't gonna go looking for that one!
I made that mistake looking up "Porsche girl".
Don't do it!
Really.
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Dwayne1m
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| Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2018 3:58 pm Post subject: Re: Two chains and a tire |
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| TDCTDI wrote: |
NOPE! I ain't gonna go looking for that one!
I made that mistake looking up "Porsche girl".
Don't do it!
Really. |
Hmm. I didn't think it was that bad, but not a good example of proper driving technique.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_DhPJkOjCMY |
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chickengeorge
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| Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2018 5:36 pm Post subject: Re: Two chains and a tire |
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| Snatch. |
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oprn
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| Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2018 6:50 pm Post subject: Re: Two chains and a tire |
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| It can work it you don't get stupid. But yes I have seen and experience chain damage too. Pretty scary stuff! |
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Zeen
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| Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2018 9:10 pm Post subject: Re: Two chains and a tire |
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Wow. I always figured a stretchy strap was more dangerous, since it would load up more energy to be released when it snapped, where a chain would just break. I've seen water ski ropes snap dramatically, but the handle stays with the skier, so there is no mass to fly and hurt anyone. I guess the lesson is to stay out of the line of fire, no matter what is being used.
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oprn
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| Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2018 9:40 am Post subject: Re: Two chains and a tire |
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| I had a Dodge tail gate that you could count the number of chain links on. Each one made it's own distinct impression! |
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cdennisg
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| Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2018 10:31 pm Post subject: Re: Two chains and a tire |
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Always helps to throw an old blanket or a jacket over the tow rope/cable/chain, too. If something snaps, the blanket dampens the flinging action.
I like the tire idea. Would work great in a pinch.
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calvinater
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| Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2018 11:59 am Post subject: Re: Two chains and a tire |
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Actually worked well, less stress on extraction vehicle
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| Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2018 12:06 pm Post subject: Re: Two chains and a tire |
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| An old fellow years ago showed me how to pull axles out of differential housings without a puller. He just used a heavy chain bolted to the wheel studs, back up until the chain is tight. Now give it a foot or so of slack and whip a hump into it. The trick is to take up the slack at the same time as the hump hits the far end. Just like cracking a whip and the axle just pops out! |
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