Can't pump washer bottle (Bug 1966)

[Ofir]

Hi,
I have bug 1966, I want to restore to the original windshield washer.
I try to put air with bicycle pump to the valve, but I can't pump it.

Please help

Thanks

[Cusser]

Can you unscrew the schraeder valve from it, like one can do on a tire?

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[Ofir]

Hi,
I don't know how to do it, any idea?

Thanks

[Cusser]

[bluebus86]

this kind of valve is fitted...

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schrader_valve

this valve is also used for most car tires, and on many bicycles tires (bicycles may use one of two types, some have schrader valves, others use a different type called a presta valve


the schrader valve can be removed from the valve body with a small special screw driver inserted from the top ie... the side you attach the air supply pump to, it is a standard righthand thread. replacement valves can be bought at bicycle stores, and automotive tire stores. In fact you can take your washer tank to a bicycle store or tire store and ask a helpful employee to change the valve out for a new one, it takes less than a minute.

Good Luck, Bug On!
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[Cusser]

[mark40]

You might just make sure the valve pin is not stuck, they can be from time to time. Just push on the pin with your finger or a tool. If is free, then you need to remove the valve as stated above.

Mark..

[Ofir]

Thanks to all, will check and update.

[Ofir]

O.K I went to bicycle store, he replace the valve, still can't pump it
We try put air through it without the valve - nothing come out.
It's clogged?

How I can open it?
Enclosed picture of the washer bottle fluid, before/after clean....also picture of the old valve.
I have this bug 1966 since 2000, this system never worked, previous owner added electrical pump, I remove it and want to restore it to original with air from spare tire

Thanks

[bluebus86]

Perhaps I misunderstand you.

you state that you try to put air in, but nothing came out. Do you mean...

1. air will not enter the bottle via the schrader valve.

2.. no fluid nor air comes out thru the squirter upon operating the squirter knob on the dash after an attempt at pressurizing the bottle

3. bottle does not pressurize or does not hold pressure.

4. other?

let us know

good luck

Bug On!
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[Ofir]

1. air will not enter the bottle via the schrader valve

we also try enter air without the schrader valve, nothing enter, nor nothing come out of the cap (air should come out of the cap, when I put air through the schrader valve?)


Thanks for your help!

[bluebus86]

[Ofir]

The washer bottle is in my kitchen now it's out of the car.
I try to pump it with bicycle pump, but it's very hard, can't put air in to it.

Here it is in my kitchen:

What's the problem, what can I do?

Thanks

[mark40]

With the valve removed did you try to blow air into the bottle with a rubber tipped blow gun or use the tire inflate tool. Usually a valve needs to be present for the tire inflate tool to work.

If the valve assembly is still clogged, you need to remove the valve assembly (metal threaded part) and clean or replace it.

Remove the nut showing in your photo.

Mark..

[Ofir]

[wachuko]

It is a very simple system... remove the valve... using a thin wire try to unclog the valve base assembly.
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[Ofir]

Good news!! I fix it!!
After removing the valve assembly (put it inside the bottle, and then take it out from the hole in the bottle, was a little hassle, but I did it) I found it clogged heavily with limescale, see the pictures.
I open it with needle, and.... I can pump air through it!
Then I put it back, and a little hassle again to catch through the small hole of the base, I tight it, checked for leaks, no leaks.
Install it in my bug 1966.....surprise it's working like a charm!!


Thanks to everyone here that support & help solve this issue.
I have my bug ~18 years, and today come the day that it works like it should.
Now I'll install the HELPHOS valve hose between the spare tire to the washer bottle, and that's it.

Thank you very much

[glutamodo]

Glad you got it sorted, but wait, how the hell did you do it? Normally one might be able to drop the inlet valve stem down into the reservoir, but once there it's rather trapped as those washer tanks have a sleeve inside them, I guess you could rattle it out but with that sleeve in place, how would one then be able to get it back in place and then keep it there to tighten the nut unless you were "Plastic-Man"

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[mukluk]

If it's so terribly difficult to install, how did the factory assemble it in the first place?

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[glutamodo]

Yeah - after I posted the above, I had the same thought. I did take the time to go outside and take that photo to illustrate my point, but then I had to wonder how hard it might be to remove that sleeve. It must like pop in place and might be removable. But I have never done so, nor tried to do. (and had I done so, I would have definitely described the process of doing so to instruct others as to the possibility!)
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IMAGE NOTE: It has been noted that Chrome based browsers may have issues in displaying my vast image library, which use non-secure links and are on an FTP server. Images should still be viewable if the link is clicked though.
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