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shakers73 Samba Member
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Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2019 7:49 pm Post subject: Shift Knob Insert |
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I've got this walnut shift knob that I would like to use on my super beetle. Problem is, it dosen't have the threaded insert required to attach it. I'm in the process of searching the classifieds, but so far, I haven't had much luck in finding anything. Anyone know where I might source such an item or do I need to get one from another knob?
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Pruneman99 Samba Member
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Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2019 8:28 pm Post subject: Re: Shift Knob Insert |
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Apoxy in a bolt with the right thread? Might work. |
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shakers73 Samba Member
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Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2019 8:37 pm Post subject: Re: Shift Knob Insert |
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Pruneman99 wrote: |
Apoxy in a bolt with the right thread? Might work. |
Thanks Pruneman99. May have to go that route. Hoping to find a proper insert, though. _________________ shakers73
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Pruneman99 Samba Member
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Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2019 8:40 pm Post subject: Re: Shift Knob Insert |
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shakers73 wrote: |
Pruneman99 wrote: |
Apoxy in a bolt with the right thread? Might work. |
Thanks Pruneman99. May have to go that route. Hoping to find a proper insert, though. |
They very well probably exist. Probably have to source one from an existing knob, but then you already have another with one in it |
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hitest Samba Member
Joined: September 30, 2008 Posts: 10296 Location: Prime Meridian, ID
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Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2019 8:43 pm Post subject: Re: Shift Knob Insert |
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Since that knob is not rare- I'm certain you'll spend as much time fussing with it as you would finding another in better condition. Some crazy people on here think they are a mega rare "formula vee" only thing- but they are not. They were simply packaged and sold for YEARS at dealers with the FV packaging.
Because of its lack of rarity, I'd have no problem epoxying a nut in there- but plan on altering said nut a bit. It will need the points ground down on your wheel. I'd also make a spacer of sorts that keeps your threads raised above the bottom of the shaft hole- and keep the surface of the nut just proud of the knob's base. You can also then use a shallow (flatter) shaft nut to tighten the main nut in position on the shift lever. _________________
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I wonder what the nut looks like.
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runamoc Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2019 8:33 am Post subject: Re: Shift Knob Insert |
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Do you know that the shifter on later Bugs 'spin'? _________________ Daily driver: '69 Baja owned 44 yrs - Plan B: '81 Rabbit Diesel LS Deluxe - Plan C: '72 Ghia
Yard Art: 2 Sandrails
Outback: '69 Ghia - '68,'69,'70,'72 Beetle - '84 Scirocco, GTI - Pair of '02 Golfs-
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shakers73 Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2019 9:20 am Post subject: Re: Shift Knob Insert |
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Cusser wrote: |
If mine, I think I'd epoxy in or thread in a solid threaded insert there instead of an actual nut. |
That's the plan. Just found this site and order this:
https://www.johnnylawmotors.com/catalog/interior/b...e-138=2639 _________________ shakers73
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hitest Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2019 4:49 pm Post subject: Re: Shift Knob Insert |
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Cusser wrote: |
If mine, I think I'd epoxy in or thread in a solid threaded insert there instead of an actual nut. |
Good advice Cusser. I was first thinking of that- the kind sold at our local woodcrafter's supply store- but wondered if they made 'em in metric. Makes sense!
Runamoc- That's what I count on! I'm so OCD when it comes to driving my later beetle- I always spin the knob/sport shaft so the knob faces me correctly. I bet I do this at every stop! Great, now I have to out in the barn to check that it's straight right now! _________________
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I wonder what the nut looks like.
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shakers73 Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2019 5:09 pm Post subject: Re: Shift Knob Insert |
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runamoc wrote: |
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Do you know that the shifter on later Bugs 'spin'? |
That feature must be 75 and later models. I've owned 2 SB. A 73 which was purchased new in 1973 and a 74 which I became the 2nd owner in 2011. Both years have the no spin variety. _________________ shakers73
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runamoc Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2019 5:04 am Post subject: Re: Shift Knob Insert |
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Actually, the 'feature' happened with '68 and later models. Does your shifter ball have a pin sticking out that 'fits' the slot in the shifter rod end? If it doesn't it spins. _________________ Daily driver: '69 Baja owned 44 yrs - Plan B: '81 Rabbit Diesel LS Deluxe - Plan C: '72 Ghia
Yard Art: 2 Sandrails
Outback: '69 Ghia - '68,'69,'70,'72 Beetle - '84 Scirocco, GTI - Pair of '02 Golfs-
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shakers73 Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2019 11:31 am Post subject: Re: Shift Knob Insert |
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runamoc wrote: |
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That feature must be 75 and later models |
Actually, the 'feature' happened with '68 and later models. Does your shifter ball have a pin sticking out that 'fits' the slot in the shifter rod end? If it doesn't it spins. |
My bad. Since this thread is about shift knobs, I thought you meant the
knob spins on the shifter. Guess I didn't notice you said shifter instead of shift knob. I checked and my shifter does not have pin that fits in the shift rod end, so I do have a "spinner" Never noticed. The 73 had this same knob on it and I put 100,000 miles on her and never noticed. Maybe it had the pins. And the 74 has a solid black knob on it, so it's not something one can see by the knob position. _________________ shakers73
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boundstaffpress Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2019 4:23 pm Post subject: Re: Shift Knob Insert |
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I have a similar knob on my 73 Super. It is listed in the sales ticket for my car. With your knob, can you see a way to pop out the top shift pattern insert, or is it part of the metal insert visible from the bottom. The black and red is chipping from mine, and I want to repair it. _________________ Justin
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shakers73 Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2019 4:42 pm Post subject: Re: Shift Knob Insert |
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boundstaffpress wrote: |
I have a similar knob on my 73 Super. It is listed in the sales ticket for my car. With your knob, can you see a way to pop out the top shift pattern insert, or is it part of the metal insert visible from the bottom. The black and red is chipping from mine, and I want to repair it. |
It's not connected to insert. Mine has no insert at the moment. (See 2nd photo above). I've ordered a pkg of inserts that has the one I need included.
There maybe a way to remove the shift pattern, but it will be a tedious task, as it sits flush with the recess made for it. I don't see a way to get under it to remove it without damaging the knob. _________________ shakers73
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Rome Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2019 6:04 pm Post subject: Re: Shift Knob Insert |
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The black and red is chipping from mine, and I want to repair it. |
I revived a used walnut shift knob with the same emblem by dabbing black Testor's model paint into the pit. Use the end of a toothpick, since you don't want the paint to spill out of the pit over onto the level surface. Let dry. Repeat about 30 times to build up the thickness. Same with the red, though the red is a "metallic". When all was dry, I polished the entire emblem surface with a very fine chrome polish- Simichrome or Autosol. Not perfect, but much better. |
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boundstaffpress Samba Member
Joined: June 18, 2013 Posts: 161 Location: Southeast Colorado
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Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2019 1:01 pm Post subject: Re: Shift Knob Insert |
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I have an enameling kiln and enamel powder and rods. If I restore the emblem I will try to use these instead of paint. Thank you for the idea though. _________________ Justin
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