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rbucklin Samba Member
Joined: August 06, 2018 Posts: 268 Location: AZ
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Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2019 7:51 pm Post subject: Dropped An 87mm barrel, will it still work? |
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Slipped out of my hand while oiling the liner, busted the skirt.
Will this liner still work or do I have to buy a new set? |
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Matthew Samba Member
Joined: January 29, 2004 Posts: 1760 Location: Eastern Tennessee
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Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2019 7:57 pm Post subject: Re: Dropped An 87mm barrel, will it still work? |
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You can buy a single from aircooled.net. You’ll feel better about doing that than trying to use the busted one. _________________ 1965 Beetle sedan
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Glenn Mr. 010
Joined: December 25, 2001 Posts: 76940 Location: Sneaking up behind you
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Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2019 8:02 pm Post subject: Re: Dropped An 87mm barrel, will it still work? |
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Replace it, there could be stress fractures you're not seeing.
Last thing you want is to be driving down the road and hear BANG. _________________ Glenn
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vwracerdave Samba Member
Joined: November 11, 2004 Posts: 15309 Location: Deep in the 405
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Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2019 8:12 pm Post subject: Re: Dropped An 87mm barrel, will it still work? |
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There are a few vendors that will break a set and sell a single P/C but you must call and ask. They don't usually list them on their websites. _________________ 2017 Street Comp Champion - Thunder Valley Raceway Park - Noble, OK
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Danwvw Samba Member
Joined: July 31, 2012 Posts: 8892 Location: Oregon Coast
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Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2019 8:17 pm Post subject: Re: Dropped An 87mm barrel, will it still work? |
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Well if it's just a 69mm stroke engine just clean that up and use it. I don't see any cracks. Dremel or angle grinder with a flapper wheel?
But I don't like that Crease in the cylinder at all! I guess as long as it doesn't tighten on the piston? Just have to try it! _________________ 1960 Beetle And 1679cc DP W-100 & Dual Zeniths!
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Glenn Mr. 010
Joined: December 25, 2001 Posts: 76940 Location: Sneaking up behind you
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Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2019 8:20 pm Post subject: Re: Dropped An 87mm barrel, will it still work? |
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Danwvw wrote: |
Well if it's just a 69mm stroke engine just clean that up and use it. I don't see any cracks. Dremel or angle grinder with a flapper wheel? |
Are you really willing to gamble to save just $60?
http://vwparts.aircooled.net/Piston-Cylinder-Single-87mm-x-69mm-Slip-In-p/vw8700t1-single.htm
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87mm x 69-76mm Hypereutectic Slip-In Piston & Cylinder Set, Single P&C, Fits 85.5mm Case Head, AA Brand, Type 1, VW8700T1 is for you guys that dropped one, or it dropped on you in the engine! We sell single P&Cs to bail out guys in a predicament, we've been doing this for over a decade!
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rbucklin Samba Member
Joined: August 06, 2018 Posts: 268 Location: AZ
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Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2019 9:03 pm Post subject: Re: Dropped An 87mm barrel, will it still work? |
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Well Dan, when you put it like that... I really think this would work fine, but you're right, I would hate to be going down the road, or worse, out in the hills and go 'bang'. So, new set of 4 monday morning. I'll have spares
I looked at the link for the individual piece, price is ok but cheapest shipping option was $27. A little high I think.
Thanks all for the input. |
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parker007 Samba Member
Joined: December 21, 2011 Posts: 132 Location: california
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Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2019 9:12 pm Post subject: Re: Dropped An 87mm barrel, will it still work? |
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where did all the weld spots come from? |
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rugblaster Samba Member
Joined: March 31, 2016 Posts: 1172 Location: San Angelo, Texas
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Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2019 9:48 pm Post subject: Re: Dropped An 87mm barrel, will it still work? |
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When you get the new one, spike that sum bitch into the garage floor hard as you can for me. _________________ '69 Karmy, '69 Camper, Meyers clone, '65 drag bug, 10.78 @ 128 (sold it) '51 Dodge farm truck,
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Danwvw Samba Member
Joined: July 31, 2012 Posts: 8892 Location: Oregon Coast
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[email protected] Samba Member
Joined: August 03, 2002 Posts: 12785 Location: Salt Lake City, Utah
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Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2019 10:58 pm Post subject: Re: Dropped An 87mm barrel, will it still work? |
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Our shipping quotes are all estimated high. We mark them down after we actually box up the order.
rbucklin wrote: |
Well Dan, when you put it like that... I really think this would work fine, but you're right, I would hate to be going down the road, or worse, out in the hills and go 'bang'. So, new set of 4 monday morning. I'll have spares
I looked at the link for the individual piece, price is ok but cheapest shipping option was $27. A little high I think.
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ralf Samba Member
Joined: July 08, 2008 Posts: 1215 Location: r4
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Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2019 12:33 am Post subject: Re: Dropped An 87mm barrel, will it still work? |
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[email protected] wrote: |
Our shipping quotes are all estimated high. We mark them down after we actually box up the order.
rbucklin wrote: |
Well Dan, when you put it like that... I really think this would work fine, but you're right, I would hate to be going down the road, or worse, out in the hills and go 'bang'. So, new set of 4 monday morning. I'll have spares
I looked at the link for the individual piece, price is ok but cheapest shipping option was $27. A little high I think.
Thanks all for the input. |
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i will vouche on that john... purchased a cranj, rods some odds and ends thru the span of a few years... throough your website..
i agree the quotes are meant for safety but everytime i pay (during purchase) the shipping quote ends up lower than expected...
nothing against cbperf. but i order from them too and their shipping quote is as high but it never goes lower than expected.. LOL actual quotes end up actual bills...
not to jab at OP
but i live in the philippines... so shipping is easily x3 of local cost in 'merica surprises me ur locals rag about within the 48state shipping rate _________________ Flow Through a Curved Conduit
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FreeBug Samba Member
Joined: March 12, 2012 Posts: 4278 Location: deepest, darkest Switzerland
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Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2019 12:47 am Post subject: Re: Dropped An 87mm barrel, will it still work? |
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Me too! I pay the part, the shipping (which is often way more expensive than the part itself), then import duties, a processing fee, and then you pay tax on all of those costs.
The good side to this is that at that price, you don't drop pistons . |
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ralf Samba Member
Joined: July 08, 2008 Posts: 1215 Location: r4
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Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2019 1:00 am Post subject: Re: Dropped An 87mm barrel, will it still work? |
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FreeBug wrote: |
Me too! I pay the part, the shipping (which is often way more expensive than the part itself), then import duties, a processing fee, and then you pay tax on all of those costs.
The good side to this is that at that price, you don't drop pistons . |
hahahahahaha i agree hahahaha _________________ Flow Through a Curved Conduit
porting my SP head for my brother's project
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Brian_e Samba Member
Joined: July 28, 2009 Posts: 3293 Location: Rapid City, SD
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Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2019 7:01 am Post subject: Re: Dropped An 87mm barrel, will it still work? |
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Those 87's are so thin it probably tweaked the whole barrel out of round when it hit the floor.
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Cusser Samba Member
Joined: October 02, 2006 Posts: 31379 Location: Hot Arizona
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Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2019 8:58 am Post subject: Re: Dropped An 87mm barrel, will it still work? |
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Get new. You'll never get a piston inside that inward surface, look at that dent on the bottom ridge of the cylinder.
You made a mistake in dropping it, just get new and take your medicine once !!! I know "we VW folks" tend to be cheap, time to man up. _________________ 1970 VW (owned since 1972) and 1971 VW Convertible (owned since 1976), second owner of each. The '71 now has the 1835 engine, swapped from the '70. Second owner of each. 1988 Mazda B2200 truck, 1998 Frontier, 2014 Yukon, 2004 Frontier King Cab. All manual transmission except for the Yukon. http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=335294 http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=335297 |
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mark tucker Samba Member
Joined: April 08, 2009 Posts: 23937 Location: SHALIMAR ,FLORIDA
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Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2019 12:27 pm Post subject: Re: Dropped An 87mm barrel, will it still work? |
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eye wood check it out real good with dial bore gauge,and eyeball for cracks, if it passes those ,then deburr, hone properly and stick it togeather. thats a non issue portion of the cylinder. hell look at the type 4 cylinder with a bigger cutout. of coarse any body could effup any thing with nothing even if there is nothing rong with it. so...it's on you.and you will need to go in the top with the piston/ring package. unless your good at the deburring and carfull inserting it. Ive knotched the hell out of cylinder, some v8's do by hand some you stick in the mill. thats nothing if done right. |
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rbucklin Samba Member
Joined: August 06, 2018 Posts: 268 Location: AZ
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Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2019 12:54 pm Post subject: Re: Dropped An 87mm barrel, will it still work? |
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Parker: The end flange had a couple what look like grind marks out of the box. Other than the break from me everything there is as delivered in the box.
Cusser: Yup, carelessness can cost. So does bad luck. or both?
Freebug: Made me laugh. Still pissed though.
Dan, would take you up on it but have a serious time crunch so noe the motor is out of the car, body and steering going on today and new part first thing tomorrow. Should have the engine cleaned up, together and fired up tomorrow. |
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Danwvw Samba Member
Joined: July 31, 2012 Posts: 8892 Location: Oregon Coast
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Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2019 2:40 pm Post subject: Re: Dropped An 87mm barrel, will it still work? |
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One thing about AA cylinders is they are pliable yet can crack or even tare. Back in the day the Cofaps and Mahle we're so hard they would shatter or break in two if dropped, now these can still crack but stay together. I had the experience of in precivable cracks in a set I damaged torquing, leaking a lot of oil right through the sidewall.
This one tore when forced.
These cracked when the heads were torqued due to the fins weren't clearanced and I did not notice untill running the engine. And oil was splashing out through the sidewalls.
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FreeBug Samba Member
Joined: March 12, 2012 Posts: 4278 Location: deepest, darkest Switzerland
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Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2019 4:40 pm Post subject: Re: Dropped An 87mm barrel, will it still work? |
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ralf wrote: |
FreeBug wrote: |
Me too! I pay the part, the shipping (which is often way more expensive than the part itself), then import duties, a processing fee, and then you pay tax on all of those costs.
The good side to this is that at that price, you don't drop pistons . |
hahahahahaha i agree hahahaha |
Came across this looking for parts in UK:
Typical prices are:
Rep. Ireland, France, Germany, Belgium, Luxembourg, Netherlands - £28
Austria, Denmark, Finland, Sweden, Italy, Portugal, Spain - £28
Norway, Switzerland (inc. customs charge) - £70
Rest of Europe except Cyprus and Malta - £35 |
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