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PostPosted: Tue Jan 22, 2019 2:54 pm    Post subject: Installing armrests in new panels Reply with quote

I've gotta punch some holes in my new panels for arm rests. Before I go and start this process, I figured I'd search the forums first. Not seeing this covered!

What's the preferred method to install these? Measure from bulkhead to mount and then from top to mount? Are these different per bus (like the front door panels)? Use a drill or fabricate a hole press from pipe to punch through? I'm guessing a drill is fine since these dont move.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 22, 2019 6:51 pm    Post subject: Re: Installing armrests in new panels Reply with quote

You mean the 3 armrests in the cargo area, right?

I've never done it but I assume drilling a hole is fine.

It seems better to me to ask for measurements off some other panels, easier that way.

The long panel is different for innie and outie vents but I don't know if that affects the location of the arm rest holes.
Anyone know?

I have an extra long panel for my '63 (innie vents) sitting in my garage that I could measure though.

What year Bus do you have?

Long Panel example with 2 arm rests from Skim:
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 22, 2019 7:06 pm    Post subject: Re: Installing armrests in new panels Reply with quote

I'd use a large piece of cardboard that relatively duplicates and slightly over sizes the panel targets- only a couple feet wide. Transfer measurements of the welded tab hanger to your cardboard sheet and on spots of painters tape along the sill - above the panels and below the windows. Hold the cardboard template over the armrest hangers so you can zero in a little on where they are. Mount your armrest(s) to the cardboard- then hang them over the mounting hangers. This allows you a little wiggle room to move the cardboard around- to get a great neutral position for marking and measuring. With reference marks on the top and bottom positions on the cardboard- you can more easily transfer those marks to the back of your new panels. It is harder since the holes in the panels do not guarantee a perfect "drop" of those armrest brackets in to their receiving tabs- that's why I like taking time. You don't want the panel to stop going down over the hangers before it makes it to the floor.

I'm just a tad OCD about things like this- I'll make cardboard templates nearly fullsize- transfer my first template measurements to those next- THEN involve the final panels when I'm darn good and ready. Smile
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 22, 2019 7:33 pm    Post subject: Re: Installing armrests in new panels Reply with quote

EverettB wrote:
You mean the 3 armrests in the cargo area, right?

I've never done it but I assume drilling a hole is fine.

It seems better to me to ask for measurements off some other panels, easier that way.

The long panel is different for innie and outie vents but I don't know if that affects the location of the arm rest holes.
Anyone know?

I have an extra long panel for my '63 (innie vents) sitting in my garage that I could measure though.

What year Bus do you have?

Long Panel example with 2 arm rests from Skim:
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Yep! Those 3! This one is a 67.

I think I might have access to an old long panel. I'll find out tomorrow and if I do, I'll see if the holes match up (dry fitting in the old one). If they do, I'll use as a template.

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I'm just a tad OCD about things like this


Me too. I dont want to F up the angle they are supposed to sit and then have to pay for a new panel because of how annoyed I'll be with it.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 25, 2019 11:49 am    Post subject: Re: Installing armrests in new panels Reply with quote

So I got the long panel and it will work. However, found out one of the armrests I bought has a spinning post so I need to fix that before I can install. Probably going to either drill and epoxy the post in place. Not sure yet. Will probably do some touch up paint on them as well since I couldn't completely remove the stains.

Anyways, putting this on hold for a few while I address that.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 14, 2021 6:05 pm    Post subject: Re: Installing armrests in new panels Reply with quote

Just got my new interior panels for my 64 deluxe from Clara. I have 3 arm rests to buy then install. Clara made holes for them in the panels, but my question is, how are these installed?? There is a bracket on the wall of the bus, which I assume is for the arm rests. Each arm rest location on the panel has two holes. I’ve searched, but haven’t found a thread addressing how these are installed. Or is that because its easy? Any help with pics would be appreciated! Thanks, Brian
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 14, 2021 6:45 pm    Post subject: Re: Installing armrests in new panels Reply with quote

You'll need the bracket and two nuts and wobble washers.

Everett photo from the gallery.
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nlorntson photo from gallery.
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You tighten those onto the back of Clara's panel's then slip it over the wall bracket. I've put the armrest and bracket on by slipping my hand behind in place but it's a pain
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 14, 2021 6:49 pm    Post subject: Re: Installing armrests in new panels Reply with quote

BarryL wrote:
You'll need the bracket and two nuts and wobble washers.

Everett photo from the gallery.
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nlorntson photo from gallery.
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You tighten those onto the back of Clara's panel's then slip it over the wall bracket. I've put the armrest and bracket on by slipping my hand behind in place but it's a pain


Great, makes sense. Thanks Everett!
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 14, 2021 7:42 pm    Post subject: Re: Installing armrests in new panels Reply with quote

BarryL wrote:
You'll need the bracket and two nuts and wobble washers.

Everett photo from the gallery.

nlorntson photo from gallery.
You tighten those onto the back of Clara's panel's then slip it over the wall bracket. I've put the armrest and bracket on by slipping my hand behind in place but it's a pain


Exactly.

If using old armrest brackets, you may want to straighten them if they are squashed.
Attach the armrests to the armrest bracket with the panel in between.
Some armrests have studs, and you use nuts. On some armrests you use bolts.

Lift the panel up by the armrests, and drop it down onto the brackets on the wall.
Since the outside of the bus is slightly curved, kind of like a pumpkin, you may have to push the panel gently into the wall to make it concave as you slide the panel down and catch the armrest brackets onto the hooks on the bus wall.
This should hold the panel in place even with no screws.

Then you use the screws to attach the panel to the wall.
This pic from above shows late 63/ 1964 screw location:

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 14, 2021 8:05 pm    Post subject: Re: Installing armrests in new panels Reply with quote

Clara wrote:
BarryL wrote:
You'll need the bracket and two nuts and wobble washers.

Everett photo from the gallery.

nlorntson photo from gallery.
You tighten those onto the back of Clara's panel's then slip it over the wall bracket. I've put the armrest and bracket on by slipping my hand behind in place but it's a pain


Exactly.

If using old armrest brackets, you may want to straighten them if they are squashed.
Attach the armrests to the armrest bracket with the panel in between.
Some armrests have studs, and you use nuts. On some armrests you use bolts.

Lift the panel up by the armrests, and drop it down onto the brackets on the wall.
Since the outside of the bus is slightly curved, kind of like a pumpkin, you may have to push the panel gently into the wall to make it concave as you slide the panel down and catch the armrest brackets onto the hooks on the bus wall.
This should hold the panel in place even with no screws.

Then you use the screws to attach the panel to the wall.
This pic from above shows late 63/ 1964 screw location:

Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.


Thanks Clara, my new panels are beautiful! Installing them, slowly😬
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 16, 2021 10:08 am    Post subject: Re: Installing armrests in new panels Reply with quote

thanks!.

FWIW, armrest orientation, see the shadow:
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(gallery pics by joefriday)
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 16, 2021 10:40 am    Post subject: Re: Installing armrests in new panels Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 16, 2021 11:56 am    Post subject: Re: Installing armrests in new panels Reply with quote

Clara wrote:
thanks!.

FWIW, armrest orientation, see the shadow:
Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.


Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.


(gallery pics by joefriday)


Thanks Clara! This really helps. Just got my arm rests this morning. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 16, 2021 11:59 am    Post subject: Re: Installing armrests in new panels Reply with quote

teahead wrote:
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Thanks for posting this, I need to order these hole finders now. VW Logo
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 16, 2021 6:07 pm    Post subject: Re: Installing armrests in new panels Reply with quote

BarryL wrote:
You'll need the bracket and two nuts and wobble washers.

Everett photo from the gallery.
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nlorntson photo from gallery.
Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.


You tighten those onto the back of Clara's panel's then slip it over the wall bracket. I've put the armrest and bracket on by slipping my hand behind in place but it's a pain


Sorry, meant to say “thanks BarryL”!
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