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PostPosted: Sat Feb 02, 2019 7:59 am    Post subject: A Pick-Em Up Truck Tale - 1968 Double Cab Reply with quote

Super excited, overwhelmed with joy and truly grateful to now own a Bay Double Cab.
All of my years attending VW shows, I’ve never seen a bay version. With the immediate sadness of selling my ‘59 single cab last year, I vowed to replace it with bay version. Well, after a road trip with my dad, nearly 11 hours in a U-Haul pick up, we dollied home a ‘68 Doka from Mississippi.
The m-code states this guy became domestic through San Diego, but with a title and inspection sticker on the windshield, it lived most of its life in Oklahoma.
Now, in time, will be cleaned, fixed, and painted it’s original colors once more, to be used for my business, weekend cruises, and exactly what it is, a utilitarian truck.
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Rockers are rough, front pan is basically trash. Doglegs are more or less solid, Gates are really nice. Back decking, rear cargo floor, bulkhead, and all the pillars are pretty nice. Needs a battery tray, some hammering, and as Zeppelin said, “A Whole Lotta Love”
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 02, 2019 8:07 am    Post subject: Re: A Pick-Em Up Truck Tale - 1968 Double Cab Reply with quote

Awesome!
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 02, 2019 10:08 am    Post subject: Re: A Pick-Em Up Truck Tale - 1968 Double Cab Reply with quote

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Awesome!

Thanks Rich, super pumped.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 02, 2019 11:08 am    Post subject: Re: A Pick-Em Up Truck Tale - 1968 Double Cab Reply with quote

nice score! whats your first step going to be?
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 02, 2019 2:02 pm    Post subject: Re: A Pick-Em Up Truck Tale - 1968 Double Cab Reply with quote

Looks like its been slapped around a bit. But has some good bones. Nice score brother.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 02, 2019 3:19 pm    Post subject: Re: A Pick-Em Up Truck Tale - 1968 Double Cab Reply with quote

Awesome find! Looks like a great starting point.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 02, 2019 4:17 pm    Post subject: Re: A Pick-Em Up Truck Tale - 1968 Double Cab Reply with quote

Man, that's great! Cool to see the headliner is intact. Can't wait to see how you cut in the fiberglas battery access door. Laughing

Nice going, Sam! Super cool.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 03, 2019 6:03 am    Post subject: Re: A Pick-Em Up Truck Tale - 1968 Double Cab Reply with quote

Congrats Sam!

Looks like a great new addition!
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 03, 2019 7:26 am    Post subject: Re: A Pick-Em Up Truck Tale - 1968 Double Cab Reply with quote

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nice score! whats your first step going to be?


Yesterday after work consisted of cleaning the interior, removed the seats, cleaned the headliner and seats, a general scrub down.
Pulled the windshield to discover some crunch, not all the way across the lower windshield pinchweld area, but it's there nonetheless.
The nose is beat to hell, but I'm strongly hesitate to chop off the front clip to replace it, though I know, that would be best for it.
Overall, just continue to clean it up. Lots of loose wiring and non-functioning items, all in time.

Truck will be blasted, primed and painted back its original color. Slapping logos on it for my business, and "we all meet up at the Winchester for a pint".
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 03, 2019 7:29 am    Post subject: Re: A Pick-Em Up Truck Tale - 1968 Double Cab Reply with quote

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Looks like its been slapped around a bit. But has some good bones. Nice score brother.

It certainly has, bus as I mentioned came through California, vehicle inspection sticker on the windshield for Oklahoma, and the rear bumper has a faculty sicker for University of Missouri of Columbia, been in the Delta since 2009, and now in with me in the Natural State.
It "had" the original VW windshield that cracked removing last night due to the 30 year old rock chips, pretty bummed about that.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 03, 2019 7:30 am    Post subject: Re: A Pick-Em Up Truck Tale - 1968 Double Cab Reply with quote

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Awesome find! Looks like a great starting point.

Thanks JTR, I'm extremely excited about it.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 03, 2019 7:46 am    Post subject: Re: A Pick-Em Up Truck Tale - 1968 Double Cab Reply with quote

Nothing like getting up at 5am for work, getting off and working in the shop until midnight on your newly acquired machine Cool

As I mentioned, pulled the windshield last night to assess windshield lip, and to have clear overhead access to the wiring and fuse box.
The bus has the ignition switch bypassed and has a generic powered off the ignition coil currently, that shit has to go.
It isn't supplying power through the ignition switch to the fuse box, so I don't currently have any of my indicator lights, dash lights, etc...


One thing that is awesome, the '68 bus wiring schematic fits on one page in the Bentley. The un-awesome thing is that it's fairly apparent some knucklehead moved wiring around, adding a stereo, pulled wiring off the fuse box and taped up the connectors, fortunate that they didn't cut the wires, but simple removed them.

What I began with:
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That's what I worked on correcting last night, using my Bentley, I first disconnected the battery and began to wipe down all the wiring, removing dirt and dust to see the coloring.

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It's a great blessing that I have some experience with this, VW schematics are not too bad, have references makes a huge difference as well, so thanks to everyone who uploads information into the technical forums.

I have three wires that I'm stumped on, one being a reddish/brown wire coming from the turn signal switch.


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The second, a black/white wire running from the turn signal switch to the main harness.
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The last, is a green/black wire spliced (factory connector) into a black/green/white wire, coming from the turn signal switch to the main harness running the length of the bus.
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The last wire is a little red one that I identified to be the interior light, so we're getting somewhere.

Overall, the truck electrically isn't horrible, no excessive corrosion, just wire brushed the tabs and connectors, wiped clean and applied my dielectric grease.

The madness continues later today.
A money shot in the shop yesterday afternoon.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 03, 2019 8:29 am    Post subject: Re: A Pick-Em Up Truck Tale - 1968 Double Cab Reply with quote

What an excellent project!
Good on your for bring that puppy back from the brink.
I find with these jobs that it almost doesn't matter where you start. Just start somewhere, and if you run out of steam on one bit, move to another and come back later. Lots of work to do...
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 03, 2019 10:45 am    Post subject: Re: A Pick-Em Up Truck Tale - 1968 Double Cab Reply with quote

Wow, that's one mighty used looking truck, exciting!

I don't see the 9 terminal flasher relay in there anywhere, all those green and white striped black wires connect to that. Are you sure the "reddish brown" wire from the signal switch isn't just brown?, there should be 2 brown wires from the switch, one has a stripe of some color on it, the solid one goes to the ground star on the back of the speedo, the striped one goes to S on the headlight relay.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 03, 2019 5:49 pm    Post subject: Re: A Pick-Em Up Truck Tale - 1968 Double Cab Reply with quote

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What an excellent project!
Good on your for bring that puppy back from the brink.
I find with these jobs that it almost doesn't matter where you start. Just start somewhere, and if you run out of steam on one bit, move to another and come back later. Lots of work to do...


Completely agree, trust me, there is plenty to do!
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 03, 2019 5:54 pm    Post subject: Re: A Pick-Em Up Truck Tale - 1968 Double Cab Reply with quote

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Wow, that's one mighty used looking truck, exciting!

I don't see the 9 terminal flasher relay in there anywhere, all those green and white striped black wires connect to that. Are you sure the "reddish brown" wire from the signal switch isn't just brown?, there should be 2 brown wires from the switch, one has a stripe of some color on it, the solid one goes to the ground star on the back of the speedo, the striped one goes to S on the headlight relay.


The relay currently hooked up was this guy..
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Note it says up to “six lamps”:
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Let me clarify with today’s efforts cleaning up more electrical connections, this truck couldn’t of had a thing working!
Everything is hacked, spliced, disconnected, torn, crimped, you name it.

Thoughts on the relay? I know it isn’t factory, it clearly says “Made in USA"
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 03, 2019 6:08 pm    Post subject: Re: A Pick-Em Up Truck Tale - 1968 Double Cab Reply with quote

Pulled the bumpers, rear apron, engine, door panels, and continued to wipe all the wiring down throughout the truck, underneath and the engine bay.

I played complete hell removing the engine from the transaxle because....theres a damn late bay transmission on this thing!
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Like the redneck ingenuity?! Yeah me neither, I mean creative, but this is getting addressed. I read that 68 had a one year only transaxle, what is a good route for me since I will be finding a different unit?

The engine bay and engine were both filthy, so for starters I decided to clean up the engine bay.
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As far as the front end goes, removing the bumper revealed the rot.
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I really really don’t want to replace this whole front clip. Looking at current reality having to cut and replace the lower front valance and lower windshield lip. As far as the rest of the nose, its hammer and dolly and filler.

Plans are in the works to buy a media blast gun and disassemble the bus (remove glass, interior, gates, etc) and blast the shitty repaint and rust off for a clean slate, to assess bad spots, have nice meat for fresh welds, and the canvas I want for some epoxy primer.

My full fledged plan is to have this bus back together, running, working correctly with primer and paint by the end of March.

Stayed tuned, I sure do need lots of help along this journey, so to all of those tagging along, always feel free to chime in, opinions and tips, are most welcome. It’s going to be fun wrenching on these bus.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 03, 2019 6:24 pm    Post subject: Re: A Pick-Em Up Truck Tale - 1968 Double Cab Reply with quote

the "68 only" trans is a 002. it had a goofy way to set preload on the diff. you can identify the 68 trans by the diff side covers. they had acorn nuts holding the bearing retainers in.

late 68 early 69 they moved to the adjustable nuts that thread into the trans case, and kept it that way for the life of the 002 and into the 091
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 03, 2019 6:35 pm    Post subject: Re: A Pick-Em Up Truck Tale - 1968 Double Cab Reply with quote

Wrong relay, nothing will work with that unless you upgrade to the mid 69-71 9 terminal hazard switch, to use it as is you'll need one of these: https://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=1302854
*not endorsing the seller, just showing you the part you'll need.*

How many ribs on that transmission you found in there (hopefully 3), it may be a useful upgrade.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 03, 2019 6:37 pm    Post subject: Re: A Pick-Em Up Truck Tale - 1968 Double Cab Reply with quote

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the "68 only" trans is a 002. it had a goofy way to set preload on the diff. you can identify the 68 trans by the diff side covers. they had acorn nuts holding the bearing retainers in.

late 68 early 69 they moved to the adjustable nuts that thread into the trans case, and kept it that way for the life of the 002 and into the 091



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See all the wiring knotted up above, what the hell is up with all of this?!
I’m used to seeing the two bolts that mount the transaxle (bell housing) to the body for carrier support, is it just missing the bracket/arm?
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