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Variant Samba Member
Joined: February 09, 2008 Posts: 125 Location: South Africa
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Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2011 12:49 am Post subject: Cool tins |
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Greetings all
Does anybody have any info on the effectiveness of using cool tins v.s the stock bottom air deflectors on a type 3 engine? I was thinking along the lines of CHT's before and after installation etc. I have two sets of these tins and need to decide whether or not to install them on my Notch's engine which is being rebuilt at the moment.
Thanks, _________________ Adriaan.
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Willo357 Samba Member
Joined: August 05, 2010 Posts: 483 Location: Melbourne
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Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2011 1:37 am Post subject: |
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what is a cool tin? |
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Glenn Mr. 010
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Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2011 3:44 am Post subject: |
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"Cool Tins" ARE Type 3 tins. _________________ Glenn
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Variant Samba Member
Joined: February 09, 2008 Posts: 125 Location: South Africa
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Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2011 5:38 am Post subject: |
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Glenn wrote: |
"Cool Tins" ARE Type 3 tins. |
Not quite... From the Type 3 Parts list:
113 119 451 Deflector plate from Eng. No. K 0 173 003/T 0 805 014
The part number confirms that they were first used on type 1 engines & were only installed on type 3 carburetor (K or T series) engines from August 1970. (The last bit from the type 3 production survey.)
Hence my question - How much difference do they make to a stock engine? _________________ Adriaan.
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Woreign Samba Member
Joined: June 04, 2006 Posts: 2841 Location: Crestview FL
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Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2011 6:16 am Post subject: |
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Variant wrote: |
Hence my question - How much difference do they make to a stock engine? |
They make the other tins not fit correctly... |
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Glenn Mr. 010
Joined: December 25, 2001 Posts: 76901 Location: Sneaking up behind you
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Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2011 6:58 am Post subject: |
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Number 27 was never used on Type 1 engines.
_________________ Glenn
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Variant Samba Member
Joined: February 09, 2008 Posts: 125 Location: South Africa
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Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2011 9:17 am Post subject: |
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Woreign wrote: |
Variant wrote: |
Hence my question - How much difference do they make to a stock engine? |
They make the other tins not fit correctly... |
Anything else besides that? _________________ Adriaan.
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Brent Samba Member
Joined: April 28, 2010 Posts: 1614 Location: San Tan Valley, AZ
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Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2011 10:22 am Post subject: |
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Glenn wrote: |
Number 27 was never used on Type 1 engines.
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Glenn - What's that program? Is it available? _________________ 69 Fastback Build
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sharkskinman Lateral Lunatic
Joined: April 26, 2006 Posts: 4030 Location: Deep In My Own Psyche
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Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2011 11:05 am Post subject: |
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i dont know
i dont have "Cool Tins" on my T1 engine (in the 67 T3)
BUT do have little tins that clip into the underside of the engine #7s
also Make DAMN Sure you have #3 on too
i got my 67 and it had overheated?
looked when i took it apart and found those 2 tins werenst ON the engine but under the hood _________________ 74 Mexi Swamp Thing. 70 square volksrod (Swamp Rat)..65 C10
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AlanInMass54 Samba Member
Joined: August 29, 2003 Posts: 1066 Location: Massachusetts
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Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2011 1:20 pm Post subject: |
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That program is callet Etka - VW dealers use it as an electronic parts catalog. Only problem is most of the old numbers aren't listed anymore. |
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Bobnotch Samba Member
Joined: July 06, 2003 Posts: 22410 Location: Kimball, Mi
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Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2011 8:38 pm Post subject: |
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Just keep in mind that IF you use the #27's, that you should also use the later upper tin that was designed for them. Part numbers 315 119 299 B (left), and 311 119 300 F (right). The USA only got them in very late 72, and 73 models. However, since you're in a warm climate, you might have gotten them earlier than the USA, as that's what they were designed for (warm climates). I think the lower deflectors ("sled tins") were designed for the upper tin use as well, as it all fits together a certain way, and can be a bitch to get to fit, if you don't have the right bits and pieces. Most here in the USA also safety wire them in place, as they fit rather poorly, but work well. _________________ Bob 65 Notch S with Sunroof
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gt1953 Samba Member
Joined: May 08, 2002 Posts: 13848 Location: White Mountains Arizona
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Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2019 8:08 pm Post subject: Re: Cool tins |
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A year is coming up for ownership of a type 3 and honestly my opinion is on the sheet metal a type 3 is easier then a type one. Just my observation.
I did try number 27 on a type one engine...for get about it! _________________ Volkswagen: We tune what we drive.
Numbers Matching VW's are getting harder to find. Source out the most Stock vehicle and keep that way. You will be glad you did.
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HaraldD Samba Member
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