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PostPosted: Sat Oct 01, 2022 1:40 pm    Post subject: Re: Restoration thread: my 60 strato blue coupe Reply with quote

So, finally some metal shaping to show Very Happy

My rear apron was heavily bent so I first moved it a bit back in shape by hand :
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Here some better view (and on the part to replace due to rust too !):
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And after some massaging and hammering, still some finishing to do but the shape is back and we are almost dent-free:
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Then I took care of the surrounding of the engine, where normally the fixation for the sealing should be..old metal left, lots of bends,..
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And after some grinding of the unwanted metal pieces and a lot of small hammering:
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We are now good to go!

I also started on the battery tray/engine surrounding, here the preparation of the patches:
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So after some more adjustments/checkings, I started to make some space:
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Adjusting the first piece:
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And TIG -welded :
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And adjusting the next one:
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Welding next time, was already late in the night..

Thanks for following, good to be back at it!

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 08, 2022 4:08 am    Post subject: Re: Restoration thread: my 60 strato blue coupe Reply with quote

Did not have a lot of time but welded my patch as planned and started with planishing:
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And adjusting for next time:
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 20, 2022 9:40 am    Post subject: Re: Restoration thread: my 60 strato blue coupe Reply with quote

I can update here Very Happy Very Happy
First on the parts side, I restored my fresh air lever block Wink
Here the start condition:
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Disassembling:
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Blasting:
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The lever (or what was left of) were the wrong one and incomplete..I could have looked for new ones but I love a challenge..so:
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Same then for the cables :
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Everything ready:
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And the rebuild:
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Metalshaping update comes next, I made some progress!

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 20, 2022 10:46 am    Post subject: Re: Restoration thread: my 60 strato blue coupe Reply with quote

The workmanship is just astonishing.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 20, 2022 12:10 pm    Post subject: Re: Restoration thread: my 60 strato blue coupe Reply with quote

It's an incredible amount of work, and I hope the OP used it as a learning tool.
We all love our Ghias, but life is short, and restorations like this should be spent wisely on something a little more valuable. I come from the vintage Mustang world, and it takes the same effort to build a fastback or convertible as it does a coupe. I'll never build a coupe again. Make sure your time is well-spent.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 20, 2022 4:21 pm    Post subject: Re: Restoration thread: my 60 strato blue coupe Reply with quote

I think there's no limit to your skills. It's apparent that you enjoy a challenge as well as your metal working skills. The fresh air levers came out great. Thanks for sharing.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 20, 2022 4:26 pm    Post subject: Re: Restoration thread: my 60 strato blue coupe Reply with quote

Mberglo wrote:
It's an incredible amount of work, and I hope the OP used it as a learning tool.
We all love our Ghias, but life is short, and restorations like this should be spent wisely on something a little more valuable. I come from the vintage Mustang world, and it takes the same effort to build a fastback or convertible as it does a coupe. I'll never build a coupe again. Make sure your time is well-spent.


I think we don't all have the same priorities or the same taste. Not everyone looks at a project and sees $$$$$. For some of us, it's just for self satisfaction and the challenge. Fun and enjoyment.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 20, 2022 4:40 pm    Post subject: Re: Restoration thread: my 60 strato blue coupe Reply with quote

Marcdeb wrote:
Mberglo wrote:
It's an incredible amount of work, and I hope the OP used it as a learning tool.
We all love our Ghias, but life is short, and restorations like this should be spent wisely on something a little more valuable. I come from the vintage Mustang world, and it takes the same effort to build a fastback or convertible as it does a coupe. I'll never build a coupe again. Make sure your time is well-spent.


I think we don't all have the same priorities or the same taste. Not everyone looks at a project and sees $$$$$. For some of us, it's just for self satisfaction and the challenge. Fun and enjoyment.


I agree with you. The people who told Van Gogh and Rodin they were wasting their time have long since been forgotten because they left us nothing by which we may remember them.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 20, 2022 9:27 pm    Post subject: Re: Restoration thread: my 60 strato blue coupe Reply with quote

Thanks so much to all of you!

@Mberglo: you are right, seeing in terms of money and time, this project is absolutely not worthy.. now, it is a hobby to me (so it is ok if it costs me something !), I am spending time doing things I love (like metalshaping) and at the end I will get my dream car being built as I want it..so, from that point of view, is it worthy? Hell yeah!

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 21, 2022 11:16 am    Post subject: Re: Restoration thread: my 60 strato blue coupe Reply with quote

kiwighia68 wrote:
...The people who told Van Gogh and Rodin they were wasting their time have long since been forgotten because they left us nothing by which we may remember them.
Please keep quotable comments to one per month Very Happy

I think this comment perfectly sums up the Ghia restoration hobby, especially for those of us who enjoy the build process.

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 23, 2022 8:15 am    Post subject: Re: Restoration thread: my 60 strato blue coupe Reply with quote

So, some metalshaping now Very Happy

I was still in the engine bay, so let's continue, adjusting my handmade panel:
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And welding:
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Next one:
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Welding :
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Looking better, some planishing left but love seeing the next rust-free area:
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 23, 2022 3:12 pm    Post subject: Re: Restoration thread: my 60 strato blue coupe Reply with quote

Small repairs count for significant boosts in accomplishment, Antoine.

At first I thought you should've made your battery patch panel slightly longer to the rear so that it touches the rear vertical part of the fender, but then I remembered you need space to fit the rubber weatherstrip between them. Here's a shot of the left side of my '64's all-original metal engine compartment, where you can see the rubber strip at the bottom of the photo. You can also see the relative spacing of the 3 metal tabs which hold the sound insulation panels in place against the lip of your patch panel. But maybe you still have those tabs on the left side of your engine bay for positioning reference.
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Note that my rectangular "depression"- the mirror image of the battery area depression- is smaller than on yours and has a more simple shape. The changeover took place midway through the '64 model year.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 23, 2022 10:11 pm    Post subject: Re: Restoration thread: my 60 strato blue coupe Reply with quote

Thanks a lot for the picture !

In fact, I made the length as was my original one, so the rubberstrip should work. As for the tabs, really good point, I will check it, thanks a lot for pour attention there and the reminder!!

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 02, 2022 1:14 am    Post subject: Re: Restoration thread: my 60 strato blue coupe Reply with quote

So, then it was time to work my way to the heater channel replacement!

First, some wood working:
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And the body is up in the air:
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Then getting close to the pan for checking of the heater channel adjustment:
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Pan getting high:
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And all fits really well as it should:
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So I screwed the pan in position:
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And welded the heater channel to the Body:
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Starting first with couple of weld and then re checking everything, including also with the outside rocker, the door, the front wing,..couple pictures on the way:
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Then I made enough welds in order for the heater to now really be connected to the body. Then I will remove the pan and finish all welding (like to the heater tube of the body) with a better access 😉

But before that, I worked my way on the A-pillar:
Ready for it:
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Adjusting:
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Welding:
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Grinding:
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Done:
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Only thing left is this connection to the front wing, it is adjusted:
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But will be finally welded when 100% adjusted with the front wing in place.

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 02, 2022 8:04 am    Post subject: Re: Restoration thread: my 60 strato blue coupe Reply with quote

Huge progress! Keep at it!
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 02, 2022 10:38 am    Post subject: Re: Restoration thread: my 60 strato blue coupe Reply with quote

That looks fantastic Antoine!! Your skill in rebuilding this Ghia with your metal work is truly Master Level!! I always look forward to your posts just to be amazed at your skill! Keep it going, you will eventually have an awesome Ghia!
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 02, 2022 11:05 am    Post subject: Re: Restoration thread: my 60 strato blue coupe Reply with quote

One of the great pleasures in life is watching a master craftsman (or woman) at work.

Thank you Antoine, for giving me that enjoyment.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 02, 2022 11:40 am    Post subject: Re: Restoration thread: my 60 strato blue coupe Reply with quote

Antoine, great progress!

Its getting more and more a car and I have no doubt that this is going to be a nice one. Keep going even if its maybe hard sometimes to stay motivated if you cannot see big results even after spending days of work.

I am always excited in following your journey.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 02, 2022 12:57 pm    Post subject: Re: Restoration thread: my 60 strato blue coupe Reply with quote

Hi Antoine, I'm glad you are back on it!

Lot's of progress, at this speed you'll get yours definitely on the street before me Cool Laughing
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 07, 2022 9:22 am    Post subject: Re: Restoration thread: my 60 strato blue coupe Reply with quote

Thanks so much guys, I'm overwhelmed by the nice words Embarassed

Time is rare but the heater channel is now fully welded and in epoxy primer :
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Driver's side comes next!

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