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winddude Samba Member
Joined: October 30, 2013 Posts: 160 Location: South Vancouver Island
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Posted: Tue Feb 04, 2014 8:44 pm Post subject: Fuel Line Sleeve Alternatives |
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I'm wondering what alternatives there are for the fuel line sleeves? I'm about to replace my fuel lines, and would also like a new sleeve that looks a bit cleaner and isn't yellowed.
I found these on ebay http://www.ebay.com/bhp/braided-hose-sleeve they look cool but I'm not sure if they protect from heat as much(if any) compared to the stock type.
Anyone know of any other alternatives? Or just run all lines on top of the intake?[/url] |
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DAV!D Samba Member
Joined: September 10, 2013 Posts: 979 Location: EL CAMINO
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Posted: Tue Feb 04, 2014 10:37 pm Post subject: |
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You could always use the split wiring loom that is used for automotive electrical lines. I saw some today at northern tool and it was only like $5 or $6 dollars. _________________ 86 Syncro Build - Ecotec Motor Swap - Pop Top Conversion - Camper Build & Syncro Conversion |
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MsTaboo Samba Member
Joined: June 02, 2006 Posts: 4086 Location: East Kootenay, British Columbia
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Posted: Tue Feb 04, 2014 10:50 pm Post subject: |
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Depending on which fuel line you choose, you could go with stock fuel line sleeves.
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Wildthings Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Feb 05, 2014 5:46 am Post subject: |
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My local NAPA sells a cover that works well. I only use it were the I am apt to get abrasion. The use of a sheath is somewhat redundant though as the outer layer of the hose serves the same purpose of protecting the reinforcement and liner. |
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danfromsyr Samba Member
Joined: March 01, 2004 Posts: 15144 Location: Syracuse, NY
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Posted: Wed Feb 05, 2014 6:59 am Post subject: |
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I like to use Spiral loom vs split loom.
I find it's a better plastic to avoid abrasion and it's more fuel/heat resistant.
also I feel it's easier to install, and uninstall
holds the wire/hose tighter and can get it in colors.
so one color for fuel hoses, one color for wiring bundle etc.
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bluebus86 Banned
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Posted: Thu Feb 06, 2014 10:51 am Post subject: |
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I found the corrugated split plastic sleeve typically used for wire sleeving to be good. it is often found in black, but I got some in grey, so it looks sharp. Still holding up well after about 4 years use. Use tiny tiewraps to secure. _________________ Help Prevent VW Engine Fires, see this link.....Engine safety wire information
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insyncro Banned
Joined: March 07, 2002 Posts: 15086 Location: New York
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Posted: Thu Feb 06, 2014 11:34 am Post subject: |
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The listed products are "covers".
If you want true fire protection, use fire sleeves.
Aeroquip makes great ones...very expensive. |
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purplepeopleeater Samba Member
Joined: July 23, 2005 Posts: 3117 Location: E. Washington
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Posted: Thu Feb 06, 2014 12:18 pm Post subject: |
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I put firebraid over mine, spendy crap though! |
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greenraVR6 Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Feb 06, 2014 1:49 pm Post subject: |
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so is it "bad" that I installed my new fuel lines without any protective sleeve or covering? It only looked like there was a couple spots where a little extra protection from abrasion is even needed _________________ '88 vanagon*****'91 gti 1.8t*****'04 r32*****'11 suburban z71 |
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winddude Samba Member
Joined: October 30, 2013 Posts: 160 Location: South Vancouver Island
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Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2014 10:26 pm Post subject: |
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Switching to imperial because of availability and cost.
danfromsyr wrote: |
I like to use Spiral loom vs split loom.
I find it's a better plastic to avoid abrasion and it's more fuel/heat resistant.
also I feel it's easier to install, and uninstall
holds the wire/hose tighter and can get it in colors.
so one color for fuel hoses, one color for wiring bundle etc.
https://www.google.com/search?q=spiral+loom&oq...p;ie=UTF-8 |
Thanks, I'll have to check at Auklands Grainger for some. Any thought's on spiral loom deflecting heat? It's usually pretty tight on the hose or wire, vs. the stock sleeve has some air space on sides. |
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rubbachicken Samba Member
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Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2014 10:49 pm Post subject: |
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what about going to a metal fuel line, like the subaru engines.
i've been thinking about this for a while, it seems to work OK on the subaru flat 4's and 6's, why would it not work on wbx engines.
i used copper pipes on type IV engines for many years, people say that's a no no, they were fixed solidly to the block, no chance for vibration, never ever any signs of cracking, or any leaks.
doing away with 90% of the 3or9 fuel lines should greatly reduce the risk of engine fires. _________________ lucy our westy
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winddude Samba Member
Joined: October 30, 2013 Posts: 160 Location: South Vancouver Island
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Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2014 9:25 pm Post subject: |
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I've done ss fuel line on classic vehicles before, the solid stuff it's tough to bend. Braided would be good but it's expensive and it would be tricky to figure out the ends.
Still looking for something quality. |
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IdahoDoug Samba Member
Joined: June 12, 2010 Posts: 10248 Location: N. Idaho
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Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2014 9:42 pm Post subject: |
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I ran my new fuel lines yesterday and did not reuse the abrasion sleeves. The new fuel line is itself very abrasion resistant. I would never criticize adding abrasion resistance to the fuel lines, but a little care in running the lines away from edges and the like will be a good solution until its time for new ones again. Interestingly, the Gates green layer stuff I got from VC is incredibly tough. I found I cannot easily cut it with wire cutters like conventional fuel line, which cuts like butter. Tough stuff - is all the new stuff like that?
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porterbrown Samba Member
Joined: February 25, 2005 Posts: 718 Location: Bentonville, AR
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Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2019 9:22 pm Post subject: Re: Fuel Line Sleeve Alternatives |
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Anything new on this topic? I’d like to replace these when replacing my fuel lines. Thx! _________________ '90 Westfalia GL Automatic |
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Syncronoid Samba Member
Joined: January 21, 2012 Posts: 1111 Location: Stanford, CA and Bend, OR
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porterbrown Samba Member
Joined: February 25, 2005 Posts: 718 Location: Bentonville, AR
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Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2019 8:13 am Post subject: Re: Fuel Line Sleeve Alternatives |
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Looks great! How much did you buy? _________________ '90 Westfalia GL Automatic |
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vwhammer Samba Member
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Syncronoid Samba Member
Joined: January 21, 2012 Posts: 1111 Location: Stanford, CA and Bend, OR
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Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2019 10:21 am Post subject: Re: Fuel Line Sleeve Alternatives |
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25ft. More than I needed for this job, but I thought it might come in handy for potential other jobs on the van. _________________ '90 Syncro Westy w/GW2.5L |
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pushkick Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2019 11:02 am Post subject: Re: Fuel Line Sleeve Alternatives |
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i used the standard sheath from van cafe and then had to put a braided ss cover over the lines due to critter chewing. i used shrink tubing and electrical tape to seal the ends of the braided ss covering. has stopped rodents and dosent rust. no more chewed hoses. but i am thinking about going to ss lines from tank to engine bay.
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