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PostPosted: Thu Feb 14, 2019 3:29 pm    Post subject: Has Anyone Actually used the Cheap Diesel heaters? Reply with quote

please only respond if you have done as the title asks. i dont need ten answers as to why i should not, tell me why i should. thanks. please refrain from telling me how much you love your super-expensive name brand heater.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 14, 2019 4:33 pm    Post subject: Re: Has Anyone Actually used the Cheap Diesel heaters? Reply with quote

Well here's an expensive one (although maybe it burns cheap diesel).
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=260435

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 14, 2019 4:37 pm    Post subject: Re: Has Anyone Actually used the Cheap Diesel heaters? Reply with quote

There's someone in my local club that installed one in his beetle and really likes it. Based upon his experience I ordered one but have yet to install. Hope there are others that can provide more info and experience on their installs. If not, I'll post mine here once the install is complete.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 14, 2019 4:37 pm    Post subject: Re: Has Anyone Actually used the Cheap Diesel heaters? Reply with quote

Here's my expensive heater install. I like it. I'm pretty sure that most all of what I did could be used with a cheap diesel heater.

https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?p=8768716#8768716

And since I broke the rules, here is an extensive discussion on the Vanagon forum that you might be helpful.

https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=703569
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 14, 2019 4:41 pm    Post subject: Re: Has Anyone Actually used the Cheap Diesel heaters? Reply with quote

Pretty solid thread n hem in the Vanagon forum. Consensus is they aren’t bad for the price.

Edit: VWWestyman beat me too it,
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 14, 2019 4:42 pm    Post subject: Re: Has Anyone Actually used the Cheap Diesel heaters? Reply with quote

since i saved a bus that has no duct system, this is my best option for the harsh winters here in Los Angeles.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 14, 2019 4:44 pm    Post subject: Re: Has Anyone Actually used the Cheap Diesel heaters? Reply with quote

i saw that but only one guy had used it, lol. the topic was derailed and 1k heaters were then discussed. I may get it and use rubber lines for the fuel.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 14, 2019 5:24 pm    Post subject: Re: Has Anyone Actually used the Cheap Diesel heaters? Reply with quote

No but you know we've talked about it several times. I still wouldn't mind just getting one. At $120, what the hell.

I think there is plenty of shit to talk about running a 35 year old one, and several of us are.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 14, 2019 6:34 pm    Post subject: Re: Has Anyone Actually used the Cheap Diesel heaters? Reply with quote

https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=261355&start=9860
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 14, 2019 8:11 pm    Post subject: Re: Has Anyone Actually used the Cheap Diesel heaters? Reply with quote

I put one of the 5K heaters in my late bay and it worked good for about a week and then it started throwing a code and not starting I guess the glow plug was shorting out
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 14, 2019 8:52 pm    Post subject: Re: Has Anyone Actually used the Cheap Diesel heaters? Reply with quote

Have a 5KW installed in my '75, have run 6-7 gallons of kerosene (burns cleaner than diesel) through it by this point.

Had a glow plug failure early on, which is a known issue, but the $18 Chinese replacement plug has been working just fine and for longer than the original. Had to replace the exhaust pipe because I did a stupid and didn't watch where the jackstand was going to contact the chassis. Oh, and it showed me that my aux battery was no good and needed replacement -- thought it was fine but the only thing connected were the LED interior lights, no load of any real substance.

It works just fine and I'm totally happy with it. Recently picked up another 5KW to mount permanently in the garage for the primary heat out there instead of the Mr. Heater I'm always bumping in to...
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 15, 2019 9:39 am    Post subject: Re: Has Anyone Actually used the Cheap Diesel heaters? Reply with quote

thanks for the input, sounds like there may be a few hiccups but over all a good product. im just looking to warm the bus on those frigid LA mornings and cool spring and late summer nights.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 15, 2019 9:58 am    Post subject: Re: Has Anyone Actually used the Cheap Diesel heaters? Reply with quote

I have been reading up on these heaters a lot, and watching youtube videos and they seem to be very well built. Obviously they copied the bigger more expensive heaters that were made, but as anything once it gets to china we see imitations, some times good (like these) and sometimes bad (like the Chinese parts we have seen). What I have noticed about the different models is there is an LCD version and a physical switch version. The LCD as many Chinese cheep electronics looks like it has one of the worst user experiences out there, it is confusing, and touchy, while the physical switch seems like it is durable and easier to use (with less functionality).

I have also seen many different ways of installation. Personally I don't want to give up any room inside my Westy (nor do I want to drill large holes), so I would go for an under the bus installation that taps into the existing heat piping.

Since there is heater ducts in the front, and in the back flooring I think this would be adequate. I would however try to run the controls up into the cabin so I could control it.

I have also been thinking about the propane Propex options because it would be nice to use a Westy propane tank since it is more durable than having an additional tank of diesel (and much easier to refill). Vanagon owners that have diesel tanks already have a big advantage here.

Just be sure to do regular maintenance to what ever heater you get. They can get filled with soot (running them on low) and the glow plugs can go bad. Luckily all the ones I have seen are very easy to take apart to clean and if worst comes to worst you can buy a replacement for very little money.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 15, 2019 10:27 am    Post subject: Re: Has Anyone Actually used the Cheap Diesel heaters? Reply with quote

It would be very easy to mount one underneath the bus and have, say, the rear heat outlet be the cold air return, and outlet between the front seats be the hot air vent or vice versa. (With a Westy, I'd have the heat come from the front for sure, because then the heat isn't blocked by the bed.) I thought about doing that, but decided I wanted both of those to have hot air going to them, for a bit more even distribution and also to help if one happens to have luggage or something over it, so it isn't just blocked.

I put mine together so that the cold air return comes from the very back of the space under the front passenger seat. So I did drill a hole, but it is basically invisible.

A couple of the guys in that Vanagon thread are saying they're going to remove the propex heaters in favor of the cheap diesel, because they think finding places to refill the propane tank is a pain, and you can't really tell how much you have. It shouldn't be very difficult to mount a small diesel tank someplace in the Bus or engine compartment.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 15, 2019 1:30 pm    Post subject: Re: Has Anyone Actually used the Cheap Diesel heaters? Reply with quote

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I have been reading up on these heaters a lot, and watching youtube videos and they seem to be very well built. Obviously they copied the bigger more expensive heaters that were made, but as anything once it gets to china we see imitations, some times good (like these) and sometimes bad (like the Chinese parts we have seen). What I have noticed about the different models is there is an LCD version and a physical switch version. The LCD as many Chinese cheep electronics looks like it has one of the worst user experiences out there, it is confusing, and touchy, while the physical switch seems like it is durable and easier to use (with less functionality).

I have also seen many different ways of installation. Personally I don't want to give up any room inside my Westy (nor do I want to drill large holes), so I would go for an under the bus installation that taps into the existing heat piping.

Since there is heater ducts in the front, and in the back flooring I think this would be adequate. I would however try to run the controls up into the cabin so I could control it.

I have also been thinking about the propane Propex options because it would be nice to use a Westy propane tank since it is more durable than having an additional tank of diesel (and much easier to refill). Vanagon owners that have diesel tanks already have a big advantage here.

Just be sure to do regular maintenance to what ever heater you get. They can get filled with soot (running them on low) and the glow plugs can go bad. Luckily all the ones I have seen are very easy to take apart to clean and if worst comes to worst you can buy a replacement for very little money.



Ill let you check out my 77 Westy mit Eberspacher. Maybe we can convince you to mount it where it was meant in the engine bay. Wink
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 15, 2019 2:53 pm    Post subject: Re: Has Anyone Actually used the Cheap Diesel heaters? Reply with quote

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Ill let you check out my 77 Westy mit Eberspacher. Maybe we can convince you to mount it where it was meant in the engine bay. Wink


You have the best toys! Where did you get the Eberspacher heater?
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 15, 2019 3:09 pm    Post subject: Re: Has Anyone Actually used the Cheap Diesel heaters? Reply with quote

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Ill let you check out my 77 Westy mit Eberspacher. Maybe we can convince you to mount it where it was meant in the engine bay. Wink


You have the best toys! Where did you get the Eberspacher heater?



Rolling Eyes Laughing See round these parts, I am Mr. Eberspacher Heater Twisted Evil

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 15, 2019 3:10 pm    Post subject: Re: Has Anyone Actually used the Cheap Diesel heaters? Reply with quote

which one? he has 20 of them
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 15, 2019 3:42 pm    Post subject: Re: Has Anyone Actually used the Cheap Diesel heaters? Reply with quote

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which one? he has 20 of them


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 15, 2019 3:54 pm    Post subject: Re: Has Anyone Actually used the Cheap Diesel heaters? Reply with quote

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dstimm wrote:
notchboy wrote:
Ill let you check out my 77 Westy mit Eberspacher. Maybe we can convince you to mount it where it was meant in the engine bay. Wink


You have the best toys! Where did you get the Eberspacher heater?



Rolling Eyes Laughing See round these parts, I am Mr. Eberspacher Heater Twisted Evil

https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=...mp;start=0



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