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PostPosted: Thu Apr 04, 2019 10:49 am    Post subject: Re: Wolf from the Woods - Austrian 1955 panel Reply with quote

I've used a variety of methods to remove overpaints: steel wool in 0000 grade and some aerosol carb cleaners will often lift house paint yet leave the original paint unphazed.
Plastic razor blades are another good idea. They are cheap and usually won't scratch the good stuff. Original paint seems to be pretty good stuff. I suppose it was baked synthetic enamel?
Nice find.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 04, 2019 9:27 am    Post subject: Re: Wolf from the Woods - Austrian 1955 panel Reply with quote

Thx for verification, Everett. expedition took place in 1957 and lettering seems to have been applied on pretty much new paint. so the bus must have been 57 model or older. it is a good match for the panel van, even if it was non WB. It's a pity that buses like these got parted out 20 yrs ago. the door has just a few pinholes on lowest part and is still all og paint.
lettering is in Gothic script, which was a pre war carry over and common and used well into the late 1950s over here.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 04, 2019 9:17 am    Post subject: Re: Wolf from the Woods - Austrian 1955 panel Reply with quote

Interesting lettering. Very "German".

The glass logo is from a 56 to 57 Bus according to the glass thread on there, if that helps with some identification.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 04, 2019 5:53 am    Post subject: Re: Wolf from the Woods - Austrian 1955 panel Reply with quote

Thx to a fellow Austrian collector I was able to get this drivers door. Still in og paint it has lettering that was brushed over decades ago. a little scraping and polish got out the 'Westafrika Expedition' lettering. I left remnants of the brushed over paint over the originally white lettering. First it preserves what is still there and then it somewhat camouflages what isn't original to my bus. Still want to keep the lettering as it is part of the doors history, which is most probably from a 55 or 56 bus. glass and frame is all og Sekurit glass and nice og paint as well, along with an old local insurance company water slide.
lettering hints at a 1957 expedition by a team from Vienna, collecting audio sample of native language and music which has later been published on record.

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it is refreshing to see the slight orange peel in the og paint.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 30, 2019 3:16 pm    Post subject: Re: Wolf from the Woods - Austrian 1955 panel Reply with quote

Al, using removable floor pans is a great idea. Ben has used this idea also on his Barndoor Deluxe. I believe they used insert ( quench) nuts or tapped for metric screws.
I am going a different route with solid welding the floor pans and using removable upper cargo floors. that way everything is accessible as well for sealer and paint and cleaning out later on.
those belly pans are very important imho. You won't need them on a solid Single cab though, I think.
My bus is Sept built.
The og Wolfsburg bumper is very thin and pliable metal. I used grip pliers, hardwood blocks, heavy plastic copper and aluminium hammers and several different body tools and hammers. and a nice level surface so to check for straigthness. it is not so difficult but takes some patience and try not to stretch the material ! the edges can be shrunk with a cheap metal shrinker in areas where they heve been overstretched from heavy kinks. Metal work is not finished on my bumper, but looks better already and can be used for mockup purpose on van.


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BTW, I SHARE your concern about rust thinned structural elements being subjected to modern use and being up to the task. The belly pan RETROFIT might be a very good idea. I puzzled thru this a lot while working on a 1958 23 window that had the frame rails replaced, so it no longer had any belly pans.
Also, I have owned a couple T2a campers that were original belly pan cars. The belly pans, especially the center, make for some interim repair nightmares, so I figured what I would do is fit new reproduction pans, but attach them not with welding but rather structural body panel adhesive and self drilling screws.
The great advantage is one can REVERSE the attachment by heating the glue somewhat. Then once the repairs are done, I could reassess this strategy. I could always WELD IT LATER, if this proved less than a perfect solution.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 30, 2019 3:02 pm    Post subject: Re: Wolf from the Woods - Austrian 1955 panel Reply with quote

No problem Jim, just let me know in case when you are coming.

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Sorry it took so long to reply but I am very busy at the moment Sad
I hope to be able to come on April Smile

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 30, 2019 8:09 am    Post subject: Re: Wolf from the Woods - Austrian 1955 panel Reply with quote

BTW, I SHARE your concern about rust thinned structural elements being subjected to modern use and being up to the task. The belly pan RETROFIT might be a very good idea. I puzzled thru this a lot while working on a 1958 23 window that had the frame rails replaced, so it no longer had any belly pans.
Also, I have owned a couple T2a campers that were original belly pan cars. The belly pans, especially the center, make for some interim repair nightmares, so I figured what I would do is fit new reproduction pans, but attach them not with welding but rather structural body panel adhesive and self drilling screws.
The great advantage is one can REVERSE the attachment by heating the glue somewhat. Then once the repairs are done, I could reassess this strategy. I could always WELD IT LATER, if this proved less than a perfect solution.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 30, 2019 7:52 am    Post subject: Re: Wolf from the Woods - Austrian 1955 panel Reply with quote

Wow, nice historic record of some parts! Do you have a chassis number or approximate date of production?
Nice job on the front bumper. I would hope to see a bit of your technique? I have nearly the exact same bumper with exact same bends from my December 1955 single cab.
Long journey, but good start!
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 28, 2019 11:33 am    Post subject: Re: Wolf from the Woods - Austrian 1955 panel Reply with quote

Hello GŁnter,

Sorry it took so long to reply but I am very busy at the moment Sad
I hope to be able to come on April Smile

Kind Regards,
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 05, 2019 2:56 pm    Post subject: Re: Wolf from the Woods - Austrian 1955 panel Reply with quote

Jim let me know when you are coming, I usually check my email and TheSamba ever other day at least. GŁnter
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 05, 2019 2:44 pm    Post subject: Re: Wolf from the Woods - Austrian 1955 panel Reply with quote

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Jim Hunter, we're living just 50 minutes from each other ! stop bye to get a look ! Smile

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Wow !!!
Another great save !!!

Good luck and keep the pics coming please !!!

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Thank you very much for the invitation !!! Very Happy
I will try my best to find some time !!!

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 23, 2019 4:35 pm    Post subject: Re: Wolf from the Woods - Austrian 1955 panel Reply with quote

good LR corner support
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bumper hardware
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heater lines
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steering gear all scrap metal, no ?

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not so.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 23, 2019 4:27 pm    Post subject: Re: Wolf from the Woods - Austrian 1955 panel Reply with quote

bumper hardware saved.
straightened somewhat and the pssgr side buffs out nicely. drvr's is not as nice, but will do.

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the battery tray is all there Shocked Surprised
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but the driver's side tray is toast
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 23, 2019 3:43 pm    Post subject: Re: Wolf from the Woods - Austrian 1955 panel Reply with quote

Jim Hunter, we're living just 50 minutes from each other ! stop bye to get a look ! Smile

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Wow !!!
Another great save !!!

Good luck and keep the pics coming please !!!

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 23, 2019 3:15 pm    Post subject: Re: Wolf from the Woods - Austrian 1955 panel Reply with quote

Wow !!!
Another great save !!!

Good luck and keep the pics coming please !!!

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 23, 2019 4:17 am    Post subject: Re: Wolf from the Woods - Austrian 1955 panel Reply with quote

Not sure about that, but by the time this van is done I will have exhausted both companies' brew production.... Laughing

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 23, 2019 3:53 am    Post subject: Re: Wolf from the Woods - Austrian 1955 panel Reply with quote

thx for the backing, guys. I dont' want to use an og chassis center section, for structural reasons obviously. Else I would have to undrill and reweld all the inner body structure, which would destroy the van's og paint and history. that I don't want. it should be kept like that on the outside, imho.

I even plan on putting this 55 body on the Barndoor chassis for realigning (only temporarily). It will also make a good cradle for the 55, while repairing the og 55 chassis remnants ( rear section is very good. RF frame is ok, LF needs quite some attention).

this is the obligatory hinge screw extraction procedure...none would come out as they went in. 23 down 16 to go Very Happy

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narrow gap/long ribbed front bumper is mostly there and should be able to reuse.
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pssr dr again is all og paint with fair amount of work needed
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this has been discussed a lot over at the BD forum and not sure if this is pure coincidence or not. there is a 1/4 chalk marking inside the door and a stamped 4 on the rear body support.

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 23, 2019 2:03 am    Post subject: Re: Wolf from the Woods - Austrian 1955 panel Reply with quote

Damn! Don't sweat the decision to go with the belly pans. For all the work you'll be doing, you can do whatever you want.

Best of luck on the restoration.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 22, 2019 5:44 pm    Post subject: Re: Wolf from the Woods - Austrian 1955 panel Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 22, 2019 4:44 pm    Post subject: Re: Wolf from the Woods - Austrian 1955 panel Reply with quote

i think the outside paint looks plenty good enough. fix the rot and roll it. custom frame, belly pans and all
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