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PostPosted: Fri Mar 01, 2019 7:45 am    Post subject: Re: Savanna the squareback gets an overhaul Reply with quote

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Those will help fix the lower part. Cool


Bob, yes. At least I have those parts to fix the complicated heater channels. I have heard back from both Mike Fisher and Joel and neither of them have the parts to fix the rust in the trunk. I guess I will be fabricating those parts.

We haven't gotten it to run yet. The fuel pump is acting up and we got it running but it isn't pumping. We will continue to mess with that when time allows.


For a pump, you can use the Airtex E2000, or the precision brand E16020 from O'Reilly's. These pumps are replacements for an 86-89 Ford ranger frame mounted pump. There are quite a few of us running this pump without issues. My wife's 70 Fastback has been running 1 since 2008.

Thanks again Bob. I did find the threads where one can use these other pumps and just redo the way the fuel lines go. We will give the stock pump one more try and if it doesn't want to go then I will go buy one of the pumps you listed. It's just frustrating since I know that Annie was driving this car and didn't park it due to engine problems.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 01, 2019 2:42 pm    Post subject: Re: Savanna the squareback gets an overhaul Reply with quote

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Those will help fix the lower part. Cool


Bob, yes. At least I have those parts to fix the complicated heater channels. I have heard back from both Mike Fisher and Joel and neither of them have the parts to fix the rust in the trunk. I guess I will be fabricating those parts.

We haven't gotten it to run yet. The fuel pump is acting up and we got it running but it isn't pumping. We will continue to mess with that when time allows.


For a pump, you can use the Airtex E2000, or the precision brand E16020 from O'Reilly's. These pumps are replacements for an 86-89 Ford ranger frame mounted pump. There are quite a few of us running this pump without issues. My wife's 70 Fastback has been running 1 since 2008.

Thanks again Bob. I did find the threads where one can use these other pumps and just redo the way the fuel lines go. We will give the stock pump one more try and if it doesn't want to go then I will go buy one of the pumps you listed. It's just frustrating since I know that Annie was driving this car and didn't park it due to engine problems.


Yeah, the factory pump doesn't seem to like being "parked". for some reason. I don't know why.
What you might try, is pulling the Bosch pump off, and submerging it in diesel fuel. Then cycle the pump direction (switching the + and - leads) to see if you can get it going again. I think Tram and Ray both have recommended doing this before. Usually it's for a stuck pump. Keep in mind you can spend days trying to get a Bosch pump to come back to life, only to still buy a 90 dollar pump.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 30, 2019 5:54 pm    Post subject: Re: Savanna the squareback gets an overhaul Reply with quote

Alright, I'm back it at after a small hiatus. I ended up replacing the fuel pump with a precision pump from O'Reillys. It was only $87 and has a lifetime warranty, not bad. I had already replaced all of the fuel lines at the front of the car so I went ahead and replaced most of the fuel lines in the engine compartment. I didn't take any pictures of any of that process.
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It was a beautiful day here in the PNW so I decided to give the ole girl a good shining up. I removed all of the trim and the roof rack. I am going to shamelessly plug Griots Garage products because they are a big sponsor for a lot of our VW shows out here. They are good people and fantastic products. They aren't cheap but you get what you pay for and I will let the results speak for themselves. I did not wet sand this car but went at it in two stages. First stage was the heavy cut with the wool pad and the polish. Second stage was with the show car finish and a fairly aggressive foam pad on the buffer.
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Here is the roof half done with just one pass with the polish.
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First cut on the drivers side.
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First cut on the passenger side.

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All done.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 30, 2019 5:58 pm    Post subject: Re: Savanna the squareback gets an overhaul Reply with quote

I forgot to tell you guys the best part. It runs! After fixing a few fuel leaks it fired right up. No smoke or bad noises either. I took it for a quick drive around the block. The injectors are leaking on the 1/2 side. It is the fuel line the connects to the fuel rail. They look to be swaged to the top of the injectors. Can this be repaired or do I have to get new injectors?
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 30, 2019 8:09 pm    Post subject: Re: Savanna the squareback gets an overhaul Reply with quote

Cut the crimped collar at the injector with a Dremel, pop it off, and use a short hose with 2 clamps. Do all 4.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 31, 2019 5:41 am    Post subject: Re: Savanna the squareback gets an overhaul Reply with quote

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Cut the crimped collar at the injector with a Dremel, pop it off, and use a short hose with 2 clamps. Do all 4.


Thank you sir. And I will do all four since the 3/4 side is looking pretty bad too.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 31, 2019 5:48 am    Post subject: Re: Savanna the squareback gets an overhaul Reply with quote

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Cut the crimped collar at the injector with a Dremel, pop it off, and use a short hose with 2 clamps. Do all 4.


Thank you sir. And I will do all four since the 3/4 side is looking pretty bad too.


Yup, this is common. It's also why we recommend replacing ALL of the hoses, otherwise you're just chasing leak after leak. Great job getting it running again though.

Cutting and buffing the finish really helped the old girl look good again too. Nice job. Cool
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 31, 2019 7:06 pm    Post subject: Re: Savanna the squareback gets an overhaul Reply with quote

Tram wrote:
Cut the crimped collar at the injector with a Dremel, pop it off, and use a short hose with 2 clamps. Do all 4.


I did just as Tram instructed except for using a Dremel tool. I went full-brute-force and busted out my 6" grinder. Warning to those that may try this approach, the swaged fittings are thin and if not careful you can cut into the pipe on the injector. I may have bumped the pipe a couple of times Embarassed
But, no leaks. Here are some pictures to show what we are talking about. If you haven't done this on your injectors, do it, it only took me about two hours to do all four including removal and installation. Mine were grossly overdue as the fuel hose just crumbled with the slightest bend.
Here is how they came out of the car. Notice the wet look? Fuel was leaking pretty bad from these.
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After the fuel hose disentegrated I was able to look down inside and see what I was dealing with here. Pretty straight forward. Cut the swage fitting, don't cut the pipe inside.
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Here is what it looks like after I cut all of the swage fitting and hose off.
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My after pictures came out blurry for some reason but see the first picture and imagine it without a swage fitting, with new fuel line (fuel injector rated), and with a hose clamp at the base and at the fuel rail.

Now it runs good with no fuel leaks whatsoever. The car is idling a little low and the idle is hunting a bit. I guess I will need to do some more reading on this fancy fuel injection stuff and figure it out.
The new plan for this car is to fix the other small stuff, repair the trunk area, and drive it this summer and early fall. Once the weather starts to turn I will take it off the road and finish the heater channels. As bad as the drivers side is I am going to have to separate the body and pan to repair that correctly. The nice weather we have had lately coupled with the fact that it runs and looks great has made me want to drive and enjoy the car this summer and repair it later. I will repair the heater channel, I promise.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 01, 2019 11:52 am    Post subject: Re: Savanna the squareback gets an overhaul Reply with quote

You might want to put a fuel pressure gauge on it and see what kind of pressure you have. It wouldn't hurt to test the fuel pressure anyway, if for nothing else than peace of mind.
Nice job on fixing the leaks. I believe KTPhil had some pics and a drawing or 2 in a thread on replacing the short hoses at the injectors.

I don't blame you for driving it this summer without digging into rust repair. It will also let you know what else needs to be fixed that you can't find with it sitting in your driveway. Wink
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 27, 2019 7:43 pm    Post subject: Re: Savanna the squareback gets an overhaul Reply with quote

Time for another update. Todays focus was on the rusty drivers side floor area. First, I had to repair my weld wand, it was leaking gas at the handle.
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Next up was installing my new bench grinder. My wife is awesome and she got it for my birthday. I needed both of these tools today.
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Here is what I started with, its so bad!
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Then I commenced to cutting out the bad rust.
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Using my CAD method of fabricating repair panels I made a few. What is CAD? Cardboard Aided Design of course! I borrowed that term from the Bad Obsession motorsport guys. If you haven't heard of them check them out on YouTube. Their project Binky is insane!
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Since my seat rail along the drivers side floor is non-existent I had to come up with something. After thinking about alternatives I remembered that I had two sets of seat sliders in my stash somewhere. Using them, some square tube, and angle iron I am going to make new mounts that will be welded to the floor and heater channel repair area. It's not stock of course but its the best I could come up with since that seat mount is made of unobtanium.
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Luckily for me the passenger side floor and heater channel are in good shape.
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So strange that the drivers side would be so horrible and the passenger side is relatively rust free. It's got me scratching my head for sure. I will have more updates soon as I got farther than I am showing here and I am close to getting that seat installed.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 28, 2019 9:28 am    Post subject: Re: Savanna the squareback gets an overhaul Reply with quote

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So strange that the drivers side would be so horrible and the passenger side is relatively rust free. It's got me scratching my head for sure. I will have more updates soon as I got farther than I am showing here and I am close to getting that seat installed.


Well, around here in the salt belt, the county dumps salt down the middle of the road. This causes more left side rust on cars/trucks around here than anything. Might be the same there in areas where salt actually is used.

It might be worth contacting Mike Fisher or Joel (Boo-Koo-Z) and see if either one has a seat rail they can sell you, since both are semi close by to you. Just a thought.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 29, 2019 11:31 am    Post subject: Re: Savanna the squareback gets an overhaul Reply with quote

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So strange that the drivers side would be so horrible and the passenger side is relatively rust free. It's got me scratching my head for sure. I will have more updates soon as I got farther than I am showing here and I am close to getting that seat installed.


Well, around here in the salt belt, the county dumps salt down the middle of the road. This causes more left side rust on cars/trucks around here than anything. Might be the same there in areas where salt actually is used.

It might be worth contacting Mike Fisher or Joel (Boo-Koo-Z) and see if either one has a seat rail they can sell you, since both are semi close by to you. Just a thought.


Bob, I don't think that is the case. Here in Washington, where this car has spent most if not all of its life, we only recently started using salt brine on our roads. I suspect it might have something to do with the leaky brake fluid reservoir. Depending on how much it leaked and for how long it could have possibly done all of this destruction. No matter, it's up to me to fix it now. It's also too late to ask about replacement seat rails. I will follow up with some pictures of yesterdays work but the "custom" seat rail setup is done. The good news is that it is all reversible if someone was so inclined. Just a matter of grinding the brackets that I made off.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 29, 2019 12:41 pm    Post subject: Re: Savanna the squareback gets an overhaul Reply with quote

Hey, if your improvised seat rail works, leave it. It's no big deal.
I was only speculating on the cause of the floor rust. It could also have been caused by leaking window seals too.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 01, 2019 8:18 pm    Post subject: Re: Savanna the squareback gets an overhaul Reply with quote

So more work has been getting done I just haven't had much time to post. This car is needy!

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First, more rust! Not surprised. All the rubber brake lines needed to be replaced. Most of them had swelled up inside and were causing the brakes to drag pretty badly.
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I ran into some trouble there since the CIP1 website was incorrect on the part numbers for the rear brakes. CIP1 has awesome customer service and they sent me the correct brake lines and I got to keep the wrong ones. These type III's are weird. Some of you already know this but the rear passenger rubber brake line is a female to female ended hose, the rear drivers side is a male to female ended hose. The front hoses are both male to female.
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While doing the front hoses I noticed some bondo hiding some more nastiness. I'm more convinced than ever that a leaking brake line at the reservoir did all of this destruction based on the flow the brake fluid would have taken.
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While bleeding the brakes the master cylinder decided it was done. I used my power bleeder and I had my son pumping the brakes and the pedal just kept going to the floor, barely pumping up any pressure. I ordered a new master cylinder which should be here this week.
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I also installed new modern, retractable seat belts. I'm bound and determined to be driving this car by the end of this coming week! I'm so close.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 02, 2019 9:43 am    Post subject: Re: Savanna the squareback gets an overhaul Reply with quote

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So more work has been getting done I just haven't had much time to post. This car is needy!

While doing the front hoses I noticed some bondo hiding some more nastiness. I'm more convinced than ever that a leaking brake line at the reservoir did all of this destruction based on the flow the brake fluid would have taken.
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It might surprise you to know that those spots are common for rust. Especially the rear of the wheel well.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 21, 2019 5:51 am    Post subject: Re: Savanna the squareback gets an overhaul Reply with quote

Time for an update. I've been busy! And again, this car has needs and it doesn't seem to want to stop demanding more. I decided to tackle the sunroof problems. It had a bad sunroof seal and wasn't operating correctly. It would open and close but it had to be helped with a lot of pushing. Turns out it had a bad drivers side cable, more specifically the slider part had broken off from the cable. Since the type 3 cables are made of unobtanium I ordered a set of later beetle cables which still gives about 90% opening and they work great.
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I'm a dork and took time to polish the tracks.
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All back together. I can't say that I am super happy with the sunroof seal but mostly because of installer error and using the wrong glue (don't use gorilla glue!).
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 21, 2019 6:00 am    Post subject: Re: Savanna the squareback gets an overhaul Reply with quote

The brake drama continued to plague me with this car so at this point I just went ahead and ordered up a new master cylinder, brake shoes, wheel cylinders, a tune up kit (spark plugs, wires, cap, points), and more. Pretty sure I'll be getting a Christmas card from CIP1 this year!
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The drivers side rear brake was giving me the most trouble since I snapped off the bleeder a while back during the first go round with the brake troubleshooting. I was pretty shocked to find this.
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See anything missing here?
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All back together with new shoes and a new wheel cylinder.
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The passenger side wasn't nearly as bad.
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All done.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 21, 2019 6:09 am    Post subject: Re: Savanna the squareback gets an overhaul Reply with quote

It has been driving me a little crazy to see the rust all over this car and knowing that I will fix it later this year. I kept staring at the passenger rocker and wondering how bad it was. I started poking around at it and one thing led to another. This is just a temporary patch to get me through the summer.
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I obviously picked the wrong color of rattle can!
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At least it is patched up for now. I will probably do a similar repair to the drivers side wheel well rust since it is open to the inside of the car and I don't want road debris flinging in there.
I gave the car a tune up yesterday and it actually runs worse! It has always had a surging/ hunting idle and after adjusting the valves, new points, spark plugs, wires, and a cap it seems to have made the hunting idle more exaggerated. It actually stalled, which it hasn't done before. I suspect I have a vacuum leak somewhere so I will have to hunt that down. It's always something. Ugh.
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https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=714683
1974 Karmann Ghia- current project, 1967cc engine. https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=775207
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 21, 2019 10:38 am    Post subject: Re: Savanna the squareback gets an overhaul Reply with quote

toddb_67 wrote:
Time for an update. I've been busy! And again, this car has needs and it doesn't seem to want to stop demanding more. I decided to tackle the sunroof problems. It had a bad sunroof seal and wasn't operating correctly. It would open and close but it had to be helped with a lot of pushing. Turns out it had a bad drivers side cable, more specifically the slider part had broken off from the cable. Since the type 3 cables are made of unobtanium I ordered a set of later beetle cables which still gives about 90% opening and they work great.
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I'm a dork and took time to polish the tracks.
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All back together. I can't say that I am super happy with the sunroof seal but mostly because of installer error and using the wrong glue (don't use gorilla glue!).
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I used shorted bus cables to replace my old t-3 cables. I also use 2 long beetle seals for the roof, along with gorilla snot (3M weather stripping glue). You put it on both surfaces, let it tack up, then stick it into place. Keep in mind you'll have to add some slits into the rear corners, due to the width of the opening, and that you have to twist the rear seal to get it to stick into the proper place.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 21, 2019 10:45 am    Post subject: Re: Savanna the squareback gets an overhaul Reply with quote

toddb_67 wrote:
It has been driving me a little crazy to see the rust all over this car and knowing that I will fix it later this year. I kept staring at the passenger rocker and wondering how bad it was. I started poking around at it and one thing led to another. This is just a temporary patch to get me through the summer.
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I obviously picked the wrong color of rattle can!
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At least it is patched up for now. I will probably do a similar repair to the drivers side wheel well rust since it is open to the inside of the car and I don't want road debris flinging in there.
I gave the car a tune up yesterday and it actually runs worse! It has always had a surging/ hunting idle and after adjusting the valves, new points, spark plugs, wires, and a cap it seems to have made the hunting idle more exaggerated. It actually stalled, which it hasn't done before. I suspect I have a vacuum leak somewhere so I will have to hunt that down. It's always something. Ugh.


The temp repair looks good, and should last thru the summer.

As for doing the tune up, and having it run worse, look thru the sticky at the top of the forum page. Tram did a real nice write up, complete with things to check and walk you thru.
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71 Notch ...aka Krunchy; build pics here;
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=249390 -been busy working
64 T-34 Ghia...aka Wolfie, under construction... http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=412120
Tram wrote:
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Tram wrote:
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