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oshima
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 15, 2019 7:20 am    Post subject: A headliner catastrophe Reply with quote

I was humming along the interstate yesterday with the windows open, being very excited about my engine’s newfound efficiency after intake manifold replacements (from 380deg on cylinder 3 at 60mph to 275deg) when suddenly a HUGE gust of wind blew in. I don’t have a rear window in the vehicle (for reasons that will quickly become apparent, don’t do this if you have your windows open), so a huge volume of air went into the bus, got up under my mint-condition OG headliner, and very unceremoniously yanked it down with a BANG!

Aside from going through the stages of grief, I was quite terrified (and couldn’t see very well). I managed to very carefully remove the glue around the windowsills and disconnect the headliner without too much damage. I put the rods back into their channels and got everything back to the way it was.

Now I need to glue the headliner back into the windowsills, and patch a couple of places that ripped when I was removing it (ugh).


So two questions: 1. What is some good glue to use to hold the edges of the headliner in place in the windowsills, and 2. What is the best way to patch some small tears in the headliner?
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 15, 2019 9:19 am    Post subject: Re: A headliner catastrophe Reply with quote

Holy moly, that would be startling for sure!

I'm interested in the info for patching, because the OG headliner in my '73 has some tears. That said, I'm afraid that over the years it has shrunk a little and is brittle so I don't have a lot of hope for patching mine.

What is your Bus model? Sounds like a passenger bus with cloth headliner?
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 15, 2019 12:07 pm    Post subject: Re: A headliner catastrophe Reply with quote

It’s the passenger model with the vinyl headliner. I really want to keep it in good condition because it’s so rare to have them doing as well as mine is.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 15, 2019 1:13 pm    Post subject: Re: A headliner catastrophe Reply with quote

I hate to tell you, but you're not gluing anything and expecting it to look good is just not going to happen.

the headliner is glued then TUCKED under the windows where it's glued onto the pinch weld. only way to do it proper is to remove the windows. I am willing to bet it's torn to shit where it went under the seals. it is usually brittle where it gets tucked
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 15, 2019 8:40 pm    Post subject: Re: A headliner catastrophe Reply with quote

Fortunately, I have new seals in hand and have removed the windows already. The headliner under the windows was actually salvagable for the most part! I picked up some shoe glue and clamps and I’m going for it. Will report results later.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 15, 2019 9:32 pm    Post subject: Re: A headliner catastrophe Reply with quote

Nooooo......
Go to an upholstery shop and buy a little cup of weldwood contact adhesive... brush a little on each surface...
Let dry a bit and put the headliner back in place...
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 16, 2019 5:54 pm    Post subject: Re: A headliner catastrophe Reply with quote

Shaggysix9 wrote:
Nooooo......
Go to an upholstery shop and buy a little cup of weldwood contact adhesive... brush a little on each surface...
Let dry a bit and put the headliner back in place...



This ^.
As you now know, OP, there are *forces* acting upon the headliner.
Make sure your headliner bows are exactly vertical and seated in their "gutters" with their little plastic socks on the ends:

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Use good Weldwood Contact Cement.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 16, 2019 8:54 pm    Post subject: Re: A headliner catastrophe Reply with quote

Shaggysix9 wrote:
Nooooo......
Go to an upholstery shop and buy a little cup of weldwood contact adhesive... brush a little on each surface...
Let dry a bit and put the headliner back in place...


You can get it at home depot, Lowes, Walmart...virtually any hardware store. A 3oz bottle is about $4.

But ...its old and brittle. You should be able to get a nearly factory headliner from Acme. They have headliners, cots for Westys...all kinds of stuff. They have gone through the trouble to source factory patterns for most vehciles
http://www.acmeautoheadlining.com/

http://www.acmeautoheadlining.com/westfaliatent.html

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