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pyrOman Fire Master
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Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2019 8:58 am Post subject: Camshaft ID? |
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Trying to identify this cam...
“41”
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Danwvw Samba Member
Joined: July 31, 2012 Posts: 8892 Location: Oregon Coast
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Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2019 9:03 am Post subject: Re: Camshaft ID? |
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I am not positive but it may be one of the CB-Performance Racing Series 3 cams the Eagle CB-2241. Interesting gear never saw one cut like that. _________________ 1960 Beetle And 1679cc DP W-100 & Dual Zeniths! |
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pyrOman Fire Master
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Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2019 9:06 am Post subject: Re: Camshaft ID? |
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It’s an old cam I got way back from the old coot Bill May (RIP). Came with the gear which he said it improved oiling.
I ran it before in a short lived 1600. It was a screamer!
Sounds about right. Thanks! _________________ Some people are so busy being clever they don't have time enough to be wise. |
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mcmscott Samba Member
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Olli from NJ Samba Member
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Alstrup Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2019 11:29 am Post subject: Re: Camshaft ID? |
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Its a CB 2241
It is (luckily) not a copy of the W110. It is more like a Web 119. Likes Compression. Nice cam for smaller nippy engines with dual carbs. - Screamer(?) No. Not unless you consider anything above 4500 a screamer. Depending on set up it is typically peaking around 5300 rpm. If heads etc are really good somewhat higher.
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mcmscott Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2019 11:50 am Post subject: Re: Camshaft ID? |
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Alstrup wrote: |
Its a CB 2241
It is (luckily) not a copy of the W110. It is more like a Web 119. Likes Compression. Nice cam for smaller nippy engines with dual carbs. - Screamer(?) No. Not unless you consider anything above 4500 a screamer. Depending on set up it is typically peaking around 5300 rpm. If heads etc are really good somewhat higher.
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When you copy a cam the master looses some lift. It is indeed a copy of the 110. What do I know? I only worked there almost 7 years. _________________ There are no stupid questions, only stupid people,
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Alstrup Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2019 1:27 pm Post subject: Re: Camshaft ID? |
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Really (?) I have NEVER lost 6-7 degrees of duration when copying a cam
Nevertheless its still a nice cam for smaller dual carbed engines. |
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pyrOman Fire Master
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Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2019 7:50 pm Post subject: Re: Camshaft ID? |
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Alstrup wrote: |
Nevertheless its still a nice cam for smaller dual carbed engines. |
I can’t quite remember the setup I used it on before but it was either a 1600 or a 1641. Probably stock heads too. I called it a screamer because I ran it in the Plump Truck and even with the tall assed tires it would rev up with a quickness and burn the rubber with ease!
The case was used and of very questionable history so it gave up the ghost in short order. I plan to use this cam in the next 1800 stroker motor I’ll build. _________________ Some people are so busy being clever they don't have time enough to be wise. |
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modok Samba Member
Joined: October 30, 2009 Posts: 26790 Location: Colorado Springs
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Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2019 8:09 pm Post subject: Re: Camshaft ID? |
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COOL, I believe it
The engle 110 has existed since 1970, I am sure it has been re-designed many times from then to the present. I've charted out the #41 and it does look like an old slightly worn down engle 110
in fact you could say, it matches engles cam card better than some actual engle 110s do. |
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oldschool5er Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2019 9:14 pm Post subject: Re: Camshaft ID? |
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pyrOman wrote: |
It’s an old cam I got way back from the old coot Bill May (RIP). Came with the gear which he said it improved oiling. |
We cut them on a lathe like that back in the 70's. It was an attempt to help the oil sling off the cam gear easier and squeeze out of the mesh easier with the thought that you would gain a slight increase in HP. We also did the same to the steel gear and at times even narrowed them both to try and gain an edge in limited engine racing. It was way before we had straight cut cam gears come to market. I have seen teeth come off of a cam gear that was grooved like that when the builder didn't size the cam gear right. Back then we would try anything for an advantage but I never saw much of an increase if any. _________________ HRE in Westerville,Ohio
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modok Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2019 9:18 pm Post subject: Re: Camshaft ID? |
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My cam gear has a groove. nearly 10000 miles on it now.
Just did it to be cool like the old guys and get that extra 1/4 hp |
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mark tucker Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2019 7:21 pm Post subject: Re: Camshaft ID? |
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improved oiling to what???? the cam gear is in a bath of oil already , and the case has a built in oil scraper to remove the exses oil so it dont just sling around and foam the oil, also it keeps the oil pump lower portion covered in oil, thus the slip fit oil pump works........that removed portion will not get scraped. and yes cb 2241. I may even have one on the shelf. |
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Danwvw Samba Member
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