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PostPosted: Sat Mar 30, 2019 8:36 pm    Post subject: Oil fill and oil cap sludge Reply with quote

My '74 Beetle is my daily driver, but most it’s trips are 30 mins or less. Because of the short drives, a lot of sludge builds up in the oil fill and cap. I’ve read on here that a long drive will clear it out, but I took a 1 1/2 hour drive with a 1 1/2 hour return trip and it’s still all there. Any recommendations on removing it other then just taking a rag and trying to wipe it out?

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 30, 2019 8:53 pm    Post subject: Re: Oil fill and oil cap sludge Reply with quote

Do you have a breather hose connected to your air cleaner?
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 30, 2019 8:59 pm    Post subject: Re: Oil fill and oil cap sludge Reply with quote

Yes, completely stock setup. Get build up there too.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 30, 2019 9:04 pm    Post subject: Re: Oil fill and oil cap sludge Reply with quote

That is strange. Should have cleared out on that long drive. When was the last oil change?
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 30, 2019 9:05 pm    Post subject: Re: Oil fill and oil cap sludge Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 30, 2019 9:06 pm    Post subject: Re: Oil fill and oil cap sludge Reply with quote

Last oil change was a week ago.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 30, 2019 9:10 pm    Post subject: Re: Oil fill and oil cap sludge Reply with quote

You are a brave man posting that up!

That is a clean engine. Nice job!

Last oil change was?
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 30, 2019 9:27 pm    Post subject: Re: Oil fill and oil cap sludge Reply with quote

Not sure. I will sleep on it and post up what I dream about. Solved many car issues in my dreams!
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 30, 2019 10:11 pm    Post subject: Re: Oil fill and oil cap sludge Reply with quote

Rick, what brand and size belt are you running. It delves deeper into your pulley, so I’d like to get one like yours.

Also, I suspect that water is somehow getting into your engine, but I can’t figure out how that could be with your oil only being a week old, as well as your having a stock setup.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 30, 2019 10:51 pm    Post subject: Re: Oil fill and oil cap sludge Reply with quote

Where is the oil filler on that?

Are you running a thermostat and the flaps?
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 31, 2019 6:07 am    Post subject: Re: Oil fill and oil cap sludge Reply with quote

What color is the sludge?
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 31, 2019 6:11 am    Post subject: Re: Oil fill and oil cap sludge Reply with quote

I call it sludge, but it’s kind of a milky honey color. I’ll try to take a picture of it, but not sure if I’ll be able to get a good shot of the fill area but definitely can take cap off and get a shot of that.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 31, 2019 6:15 am    Post subject: Re: Oil fill and oil cap sludge Reply with quote

Moisture will make it a whitish or cream color.

Have you cleaned out the area and then recheck?
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 31, 2019 6:15 am    Post subject: Re: Oil fill and oil cap sludge Reply with quote

74 Thing wrote:
Where is the oil filler on that?

Are you running a thermostat and the flaps?

Oil fill at top of alternator stand and completely stock with breather in place.

Thermostat and flaps all in place and operational.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 31, 2019 6:16 am    Post subject: Re: Oil fill and oil cap sludge Reply with quote

74 Thing wrote:
Where is the oil filler on that?

Are you running a thermostat and the flaps?
yes everything inplace and operational.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 31, 2019 6:16 am    Post subject: Re: Oil fill and oil cap sludge Reply with quote

I call it sludge, but it’s kind of a milky honey color. I’ll try to take a picture of it, but not sure if I’ll be able to get a good shot of the fill area but definitely can take cap off and get a shot of that.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 31, 2019 6:27 am    Post subject: Re: Oil fill and oil cap sludge Reply with quote

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Thermostat and flaps all in place and operational


This will fix your problem. The engine is not getting 'hot' enough to 'boil' out the moisture. Get a long stem cooking thermometer and put it down the dip stick tube and even after a long hard ride, the temp won't be over 170º. You'll need to get it up to over 212º to 'boil' the moisture out.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 31, 2019 6:36 am    Post subject: Re: Oil fill and oil cap sludge Reply with quote

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I have only been a member for about 15 minutes and already one of my questions has been addressed. The long-ish black air cleaner appears to be stock. I have the same one on my 1974 SB. Yours looks great (better than mine) and is inspiring. Not sure about the sludge as I am new to the VW thing, but I will be watching for the answers to come in.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 31, 2019 8:06 am    Post subject: Re: Oil fill and oil cap sludge Reply with quote

Here’s the pictures of what I’ve got going on.

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 31, 2019 8:10 am    Post subject: Re: Oil fill and oil cap sludge Reply with quote

Don’t think I’d want my engine so hot that the heat would extend all the way up the oil fill tube to boil that out. Not sure if there’s a good answer to being able to drive that out. Might just have to clean it out periodically.

From the view of that picture I also see some cracking of the intake boot. I don’t have any symptoms of a vacuum leak but it’s going to be something I need to address before a problem arises.
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