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westcoastbullies
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 Posted: Mon Apr 15, 2019 9:02 am Post subject: ARFLD Annual Replace Fuel Line Day |
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Great weekend for a cruise through the farmlands......sunshine, fresh air, no traffic, and the overwhelming smell of gas.
Another complete break down of a fuel line. Barely 2 years old, purchased from a reputable source. This was a close call, right above heater box. The hose appeared fine, no warning seepage...nothing. Was tank side at the copper pass through line, non-flared.
Photos show how quick these lines are destroyed by modern gas.
"TO FIT VW"
after removing the hose it literally unwind itself
German hose (left) which is maybe 6 years old next to crap hose
So I have declared, besides routine inspection, April 14th will be "Annual Replace Fuel Line Day" regardless.
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telford dorr
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| Posted: Mon Apr 15, 2019 9:21 am Post subject: Re: ARFLD Annual Replace Fuel Line Day |
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Or better yet, stop using fabric covered fuel line. As you can see, it's crap. It used to be the standard. No more.
The problem is finding a suitable replacement. Aeromech from the Bay Forum has had good luck with Honda fuel hose (made for modern gas), fit-wise and durability-wise. FWIW
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Culito
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| Posted: Mon Apr 15, 2019 8:51 pm Post subject: Re: ARFLD Annual Replace Fuel Line Day |
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I was thinking about posting about this.
I've been using the same regular Gates nylon reinforced fuel line on my bug for over 8 years now, and i regularly check the lines. No cracks around the clamp points whatsoever.
Ditch the cloth covered line and go Gates.
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| Posted: Mon Apr 15, 2019 9:07 pm Post subject: Re: ARFLD Annual Replace Fuel Line Day |
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Flenor 5mm multifuel hose has been great. It's ethanol resistant to E85 and you can get it either braided or not.
https://www.belmetric.com/multifuel-hoseethanol-ap...0olmklnfn6
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| Posted: Tue Apr 16, 2019 5:32 am Post subject: Re: ARFLD Annual Replace Fuel Line Day |
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I was thinking about posting about this.
I've been using the same regular Gates nylon reinforced fuel line on my bug for over 8 years now, and i regularly check the lines. No cracks around the clamp points whatsoever.
Ditch the cloth covered line and go Gates. |
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Manfred58sc
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| Posted: Tue Apr 16, 2019 7:23 am Post subject: Re: ARFLD Annual Replace Fuel Line Day |
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The latest Gates Barricade offering seems to be holding up better than what they sold 4 years ago (it was dissolving from the inside into a chalky grit). I check mine regularly and so far so good.
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matthew henricks
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| Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2019 10:10 am Post subject: Re: ARFLD Annual Replace Fuel Line Day |
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| Does the Gates 1/4" fit will over the stock fittings on a bus or did you also clamp them? |
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Culito
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| Posted: Thu Apr 18, 2019 1:10 pm Post subject: Re: ARFLD Annual Replace Fuel Line Day |
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| matthew henricks wrote: |
| Does the Gates 1/4" fit will over the stock fittings on a bus or did you also clamp them? |
I always clamp everything, and safety wire around the carb inlets.
Any Gates hose I use (not the FI stuff) does not crack around the clamps.
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| Posted: Thu Apr 18, 2019 5:11 pm Post subject: Re: ARFLD Annual Replace Fuel Line Day |
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| matthew henricks wrote: |
| Does the Gates 1/4" fit will over the stock fittings on a bus or did you also clamp them? |
I had to clamp the F out of it since it's larger, 6.3mm instead of 5mm.
It worked fine for years though and still looked perfect when I swapped it out.
Now I have 5mm line from the place above, fits much nicer.
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westcoastbullies
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| Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2019 9:43 am Post subject: Re: ARFLD Annual Replace Fuel Line Day |
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thanks, this sounds like the new go to...
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zozo
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| Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2019 9:56 am Post subject: Re: ARFLD Annual Replace Fuel Line Day |
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Just placed an order for a couple meters. Reasonably priced IMHO. Thanks SRFNDOC.
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srfndoc
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| Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2019 10:04 am Post subject: Re: ARFLD Annual Replace Fuel Line Day |
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Just placed an order for a couple meters. Reasonably priced IMHO. Thanks SRFNDOC.
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Happy to help. The last thing we need is to lose another bus to fire due to crappy fuel hose.
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| Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2019 3:11 pm Post subject: Re: ARFLD Annual Replace Fuel Line Day |
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Thanks. Just ordered 3 meters
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| Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2019 3:39 pm Post subject: Re: ARFLD Annual Replace Fuel Line Day |
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| Have had decent luck with the Continental 5mm hose for years, but may have to give that Flennor a try if it is more Ethanol resistant... |
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| Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2019 6:07 pm Post subject: Re: ARFLD Annual Replace Fuel Line Day |
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They had some great stuff at my local BMW dealer FWIW..
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| Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2019 7:42 pm Post subject: Re: ARFLD Annual Replace Fuel Line Day |
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| matthew henricks wrote: |
| Does the Gates 1/4" fit will over the stock fittings on a bus or did you also clamp them? |
I use 3/8" Gates rubber line and it's a tight fit, unlike the 1/4."
Harder to get off, but that may be a good thing, especially if you are not using clamps.
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zozo
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| Posted: Tue Apr 23, 2019 5:09 am Post subject: Re: ARFLD Annual Replace Fuel Line Day |
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Just placed an order for a couple meters. Reasonably priced IMHO. Thanks SRFNDOC.
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Happy to help. The last thing we need is to lose another bus to fire due to crappy fuel hose. |
Got this in the mail yesterday. If looks and feel count for anything, it's VERY nice stuff. I'll replace my lines this weekend and provide feedback accordingly. |
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don.ville
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| Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2019 8:48 pm Post subject: Re: ARFLD Annual Replace Fuel Line Day |
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Got mine today.
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Culito
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| Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2019 9:03 pm Post subject: Re: ARFLD Annual Replace Fuel Line Day |
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Seems like this is a good place for this PSA:
Safety wire your carb inlets! Or, replace the pressed in brass fitting with a threaded one.
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don.ville
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| Posted: Thu Apr 25, 2019 1:24 pm Post subject: Re: ARFLD Annual Replace Fuel Line Day |
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Wow, super nice.
I did mine like this.
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