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Meiang
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 Posted: Sun Apr 21, 2019 10:17 pm Post subject: Original Engine |
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I wonder what % of cars are running with the original case, ie engine number.
My 1968 1500 is running with the original case (H0916032) after 500K+ miles. |
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Cusser
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| Posted: Sun Apr 21, 2019 10:38 pm Post subject: Re: Original Engine |
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| Meiang wrote: |
I wonder what % of cars are running with the original case, ie engine number.
My 1968 1500 is running with the original case (H0916032) after 500K+ miles. |
I have the original 1600cc DP engine from my 1971 VW Convertible; however that engine powers my 1970 sedan right now, and the 1971 Convertible runs 1835cc DP.
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Danwvw
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| Posted: Sun Apr 21, 2019 10:45 pm Post subject: Re: Original Engine |
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You will see quite a few single port's! I think I may have found the original 36 horse which is still running with 92K on it in a 1960 bug I just bought. But if your rebuilding a 1300 or 1500 as a single port It would be a better engine in the long run if you used a dual port case and just make it a 1679cc.
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Meiang
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| Posted: Sun Apr 21, 2019 11:17 pm Post subject: Re: Original Engine |
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| I keep on hereing that the H series case is a weak point of the vehicle. Why would you change (apart from adding case savers) to another. The H series case has served me well. |
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challomoner
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| Posted: Sun Apr 21, 2019 11:32 pm Post subject: Re: Original Engine |
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| Og B code 1600 sp in my 70 running like a champ, 86k miles |
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Maddel
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| Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2019 1:08 am Post subject: Re: Original Engine |
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1302 S Super Beetle.
Built on: 17 AUG 1970
Left factory on: 21 AUG 1970
Destination: Berlin
Engine-ID: AD 012 613
It's the original engine verified by AutoMuseum Volkswagen "birth certificate". |
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markj60616
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| Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2019 4:34 am Post subject: Re: Original Engine |
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My 1970 still has its original B code single port 1600 engine...just turned 116,000 miles yesterday.
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Tom K.
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| Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2019 6:54 am Post subject: Re: Original Engine |
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| Meiang wrote: |
| I wonder what % of cars are running with the original case, ie engine number. |
Although everyone likes to show off the fact that their car has the original case, my *guess* is that 10% or less of the VW's from the late 60's still run with their original case. Replacement cases were cheap throughout the 80's, 90's, and 00's. They are expensive now.
My '70 came with a later dual port 1600 case (AK). I was hung up on this issue for a while, then I got over it. The doghouse shroud is the preferred tech, and I'm happy to have it.
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gt1953
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| Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2019 7:01 am Post subject: Re: Original Engine |
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Currently the 68 does have the original numbers matching H case single port engine in it. Yes it was rebuilt, no line bore either, case savers yes and it is now a 1600cc up fro 1500. Here it is on a dyno. 48 HP to the wheels.
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sb001
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| Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2019 7:14 am Post subject: Re: Original Engine |
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Soemtimes I wish my 69 autostick still had the original 1500cc case.
At least when it went, it went in a blaze of glory.
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Cusser
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| Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2019 7:27 am Post subject: Re: Original Engine |
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| Tom K. wrote: |
| my *guess* is that 10% or less of the VW's from the late 60's still run with their original case. |
I would "guess" less than 10%.
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Ricksurfin
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| Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2019 7:44 am Post subject: Re: Original Engine |
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| A little newer, but my 1974 standard has the original motor and transmission. Never been rebuilt, and runs like a champ. Daily driver. |
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wayne1230cars
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| Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2019 9:22 am Post subject: Re: Original Engine |
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A small minority for sure. My ‘70 is on it’s third engine. My ‘60 has its original factory installed 36hp coming up on 80,000 miles (rebuild @ 70,000).
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Zundfolge1432 
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| Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2019 10:40 am Post subject: Re: Original Engine |
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| Contrary to what the experts here say numbers matching all original cars with known history and documentation/ provenance will always be worth more to serious buyers. |
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Danwvw
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bnam
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| Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2019 11:20 am Post subject: Re: Original Engine |
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Original AF00025x engine in my 71 1302LS. Still has original barrels and dished pistons . 110K kms.
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glutamodo
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| Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2019 2:54 pm Post subject: Re: Original Engine |
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| Cusser wrote: |
| Tom K. wrote: |
| my *guess* is that 10% or less of the VW's from the late 60's still run with their original case. |
I would "guess" less than 10%. |
10%... maybe if you reverse those digits it might be closer.
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viiking
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| Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2019 3:37 pm Post subject: Re: Original Engine |
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| Meiang wrote: |
I wonder what % of cars are running with the original case, ie engine number.
My 1968 1500 is running with the original case (H0916032) after 500K+ miles. |
My 1968 1500 is running with the original case (H0928xxx) after 83K = miles. But the body is off it getting rid of the rust. In the family since new and close engine number to yours. VIN 118570xxx. German made I believe, Oz delivery. |
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73SlowBug
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| Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2019 7:48 pm Post subject: Re: Original Engine |
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My 73 has the original engine and original transmission. But the engine's been rebuilt at least once. And the transmission will need to be rebuilt soon. Also have some original rusted out to go with it. When i hit the lottery...
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wcfvw69
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| Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2019 8:26 pm Post subject: Re: Original Engine |
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Original, matching number engine case. It's been rebuilt at least twice. Best guess at original mileage is 200k on the case.
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