EMPI GT Single Tip Muffler? Does not fit my bus

[MrPolak]

I purchased this EMPI GT Single Tip muffler. ISP West Listing on eBay stated it fits '63 to '71 Type 2 Bus. Has anyone installed these?

Here is the muffler:

My apron hits the body of the muffler. I need about 1 more inch of clearance which I can not achieve without cutting my apron. The tailpipe clear fine. The muffler protrudes too far back.

Here the area that hits is marked yellow:

Yes, I have two cutouts in my apron. Both look factory, though. Apron is not bent or otherwise modified:

Here is showing how much more I would need to push in my apron:

[DubStyle]

Without seeing how it attaches to the heater box...

Did you try sliding it further on to the heater box tubes?
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[VW BRETT]

I put one on my 1963 singlecab, same issue I just pulled the apron away enough to leave about an inch of space between the muffler and the apron, works fine and has not burnt the paint or even discolored it, its hard to even notice, works great and sounds good. you may also have to push the exhaust tip down a little to clear the bumper I just pushed down on it after it was installed.
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[Harleyelf]

I had a similar issue with EMPI mufflers from Jbugs. The dual-tip hit my apron and the single did not. Manufacturing tolerances.

[VW BRETT]

when I say pulled I mean bend the apron away from the muffler, the apron is still bolted in the correct place
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[flemcadiddlehopper]

I started to put one of those on my bus ('67) . I ended up shortening the rear two primary pipes and rewelding the flange back on to help with the clearance issues.

Those mufflers have other issues I feel the need to inform you about. They are very restrictive in their flow. The two merged pipes that enter the muffler are joined together inside the muffler (straight at each other) and that pipe has about 24, 5/16" holes in it that all your exhaust must flow through, then pass into another pipe through another 13 holes to flow out the tailpipe.

Here is the inside of one.

Those dual carbs are not going to like it. A stock exhaust would most likely out -flow it.

Gordo.
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[MrPolak]

[MrPolak]

A compilation of the muffler saga:


Link

[VW BRETT]

My single cab is close to stock with a stock single carb, The muffler helped with the performance a bit but the best part for me was the sound. My truck is a rat and I thought it needed a better sound.
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67 13 WINDOW DELUX
20 ATLAS

[Kokaninus]

[NUTSFORBUSES]

""ISP West Listing on eBay stated it fits '63 to '71 Type 2 Bus""

My opinion, above is the problem. They just buy products and they are type 3 guys like Jbugs are Bug guys.

I would've posed the question on the Samba, and someone would/know/ have it.

I used A1, but a bit $$, but worth every penny ! Stainless - Tiger is the best guy.
The guys in Taiwan have a nice exhaust too, but You Better act fast !
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[Kokaninus]

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in the past, I have had success with inserting a wooden shovel handle or thick broomstick in the tailpipe and pushing down on it with my foot, bending the tip down to clear

not the best technique, but it works

the more professional way would be to apply some heat to the bend of the pipe to release the tension on the bent curve while making the adjustment

Anthony / ISP WEST
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