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vegpedlr
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 Posted: Fri May 31, 2019 7:38 am Post subject: Re: Van Life vs Creeper Life |
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| shagginwagon83 wrote: |
I've had many girls say my van is cute. I don't feel creeper at all. Like Dave said, more of a Hippie life than anything.
Oh I was at a gas station in the hood once and this guy said he likes my "doobie van*  |
It wasn’t that long ago the girls’ reaction would have been the opposite. More along the lines of “Ewww!”
And the hippy label is a slur to many.
I’ve always thought the abundance of big windows on VWs keeps them from Creeper status. It’s those panel vans that are scary. Who knows what’s going on in there.
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jlrftype7
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| Posted: Fri May 31, 2019 1:26 pm Post subject: Re: Van Life vs Creeper Life |
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| vegpedlr wrote: |
| shagginwagon83 wrote: |
I've had many girls say my van is cute. I don't feel creeper at all. Like Dave said, more of a Hippie life than anything.
Oh I was at a gas station in the hood once and this guy said he likes my "doobie van* |
It wasn’t that long ago the girls’ reaction would have been the opposite. More along the lines of “Ewww!”
And the hippy label is a slur to many.
I’ve always thought the abundance of big windows on VWs keeps them from Creeper status. It’s those panel vans that are scary. Who knows what’s going on in there. |
Good Point on the Abundance of Windows, ...SEE, nothing to see in here Officer... 
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| Posted: Fri May 31, 2019 8:03 pm Post subject: Re: Van Life vs Creeper Life |
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FWIW:
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| Posted: Fri May 31, 2019 10:23 pm Post subject: Re: Van Life vs Creeper Life |
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Silence of the Lambs.
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| Posted: Sat Jun 01, 2019 3:43 am Post subject: Re: Van Life vs Creeper Life |
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Who owns a Vanagon and no creeper?
....maybe the folks with a gravel driveway etc. |
That'd be me. Ive been called a gravel back. 4 months out of the year at least  . Once there were too many kids in the family dad sold the TR 7 and bought a late 60s dodge van. He promptly installed 6 airline seats from Boeing surplus in the back. It was cool to have flip down tray tables. Later during our corvair era we were driven around in a Greenbrier, didnt think it was as cool. |
Did everyone get one personal item to stow under the seat in front of You?
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Steve M.
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| Posted: Sat Jun 01, 2019 4:11 am Post subject: Re: Van Life vs Creeper Life |
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| E1 wrote: |
| Silence of the Lambs. |
That's a definite association considering some of the drivers I 've seen parking them lately.
The older faded paint Chevy and GMC panel van, even with the windows parking in a parking lot just visually brings condemnation from most everyone seeing them. If any enter the area where I stay I just move to another location immediately. I do not want to be associated with them.
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| Posted: Sat Jun 01, 2019 7:06 am Post subject: Re: Van Life vs Creeper Life |
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Just last night while getting into bed I heard through the open window some kids walk by, “What a dope van!” Maybe because in the dark they can’t see how rough the finish is.
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| Posted: Sat Jun 01, 2019 7:56 am Post subject: Re: Van Life vs Creeper Life |
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| Abscate wrote: |
| Sodo wrote: |
Who owns a Vanagon and no creeper?
....maybe the folks with a gravel driveway etc. |
That'd be me. Ive been called a gravel back. 4 months out of the year at least . Once there were too many kids in the family dad sold the TR 7 and bought a late 60s dodge van. He promptly installed 6 airline seats from Boeing surplus in the back. It was cool to have flip down tray tables. Later during our corvair era we were driven around in a Greenbrier, didnt think it was as cool. |
Did everyone get one personal item to stow under the seat in front of You?
Sure, in my case it was likely a hand me down. With all of us there definitely wasnt any free candy in it! We wouldve been screaming "Mom! Mom! Theres free candy in that van over there!" |
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Steve M.
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| Posted: Sat Jun 01, 2019 8:05 am Post subject: Re: Van Life vs Creeper Life |
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| dobryan wrote: |
| vegpedlr wrote: |
| Just last night while getting into bed I heard through the open window some kids walk by, “What a dope van!” Maybe because in the dark they can’t see how rough the finish is. |
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That comment had nothing to do with the condition of your bus....
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As I get older I'm thinking we're going to need a thread about translations!
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| Posted: Sat Jun 01, 2019 10:27 am Post subject: Re: Van Life vs Creeper Life |
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| vegpedlr wrote: |
But it wasn’t that long ago that Van Life meant Creeper Life. I think most people seeing someone driving a van that wasn’t clearly a work van were more than a little suspicious bout what was going on in there.
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That's where spending $135,000 on a new converted Sprinter "makes sense", nobody thinks people with money to spend on items of conspicuous consumption are creeps.
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| Posted: Sat Jun 01, 2019 11:44 am Post subject: Re: Van Life vs Creeper Life |
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| vegpedlr wrote: |
But it wasn’t that long ago that Van Life meant Creeper Life. I think most people seeing someone driving a van that wasn’t clearly a work van were more than a little suspicious bout what was going on in there.
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That's where spending $135,000 on a new converted Sprinter "makes sense", nobody thinks people with money to spend on items of conspicuous consumption are creeps. |
Oh really?
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| Posted: Sat Jun 01, 2019 2:05 pm Post subject: Re: Van Life vs Creeper Life |
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| jackbombay wrote: |
| vegpedlr wrote: |
But it wasn’t that long ago that Van Life meant Creeper Life. I think most people seeing someone driving a van that wasn’t clearly a work van were more than a little suspicious bout what was going on in there.
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That's where spending $135,000 on a new converted Sprinter "makes sense", nobody thinks people with money to spend on items of conspicuous consumption are creeps. |
Oh really? |
What about that Hollywood asshole who was molesting all the woman?
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| Posted: Sat Jun 01, 2019 3:36 pm Post subject: Re: Van Life vs Creeper Life |
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My interp of Jack's comment was "Odds of being concerned for our personal safety decreases with those of clear financial success compared to someone in a 'Free Candy' van." 
Which is correct, in my experience anyway.
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Don't count on it. Creeps come from all walks of life. Having money just makes it easier to get away with it. Heck, they even get themselves elected....
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| Posted: Wed Jun 05, 2019 12:31 pm Post subject: Re: Van Life vs Creeper Life |
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| E1 wrote: |
My interp of Jack's comment was "Odds of being concerned for our personal safety decreases with those of clear financial success compared to someone in a 'Free Candy' van."
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Exactly.
An obviously exceedingly expensive sprinter "camper" will never draw the scrutiny from society as a whole that a "free candy" van will, there is no arguing this point. Any further discussion on this topic is redundant or wrong
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| jackbombay wrote: |
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My interp of Jack's comment was "Odds of being concerned for our personal safety decreases with those of clear financial success compared to someone in a 'Free Candy' van."
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Exactly.
An obviously exceedingly expensive sprinter "camper" will never draw the scrutiny from society as a whole that a "free candy" van will, there is no arguing this point. Any further discussion on this topic is redundant or wrong |
Unfortunately it's true there is a perception that someone with money will be more morally upright, however one has only to pay attention to the news in the past few days to know it's not true.
The individual who was arrested with child pornography of small boys on his cell phone is a wealthy confidant of, and working for, heads of state.
While we as a community of Vanagon owners may like to feel superior to driver's of ratty old American panel vans it's statistically probable that there is at least one "creep" driving around in a Vanagon. 
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Oh I know...I worked among the studios for a while.
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| Posted: Wed Jun 05, 2019 4:18 pm Post subject: Re: Van Life vs Creeper Life |
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| MsTaboo wrote: |
Unfortunately it's true there is a perception that someone with money will be more morally upright, |
Yep, and generally people in sprinters are not deemed "creepers".
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While we as a community of Vanagon owners may like to feel superior to driver's of ratty old American panel vans it's statistically probable that there is at least one "creep" driving around in a Vanagon. |
Oh, certainly, and I never meant to imply that there are no creepers in Sprinters, just that society is much much less likely to view people driving $100,000+ sprinters around as creepers, but I think if I interpret the original post correctly this thread is about how the general public perceives people who own vans, not whether or not those perceptions are accurate or not.
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