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PostPosted: Wed Jun 05, 2019 5:28 pm    Post subject: value difference grafting 3 fold in 54 Reply with quote

hey guys just a curious question, i picked up a 54 oval that is a very solid car, only metal work needed is spare tire and a hole about 2x4 inches under battery tray. car has all original parts on it from factory except missing the engine. iceland green car that the paint was striped and resprayed years ago. i own a body shop and do restorations for a living and im just now taking the car apart to be put on whirly jig for a complete restoration. i am planning on building this car to keep because it is such a nice solid car but we all know that things change and it may go for sale one day, my question is i have a 3 fold i cut out of a 55 that i was planning on building a custom split down the road and using it for that. dont know if that is ever going to happen or not. if i graft in a 3 fold to my 54 what kind of value difference will that make when i go to sell? lets just say car will be worth 25k as original, would it only be worth 20 with the graft? and of course the graft will be done right and not hacked in.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 05, 2019 5:32 pm    Post subject: Re: value difference grafting 3 fold in 54 Reply with quote

Tough to say. All things being equal a grafted ragtop would be worth less than a original one. But I don’t believe it will “hurt” the value of an original hard top.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 05, 2019 7:31 pm    Post subject: Re: value difference grafting 3 fold in 54 Reply with quote

… DEPENDS ON WHO IS BUYING AND WHEN - I'D SAY, GO FOR IT - you probably would not loose with a 3 fold - you'd def loose with a 2 fold - sounds like a plan.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 05, 2019 9:56 pm    Post subject: Re: value difference grafting 3 fold in 54 Reply with quote

I don't think it would affect the value negatively at all if done right.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 06, 2019 6:22 am    Post subject: Re: value difference grafting 3 fold in 54 Reply with quote

I love early 3-fold ovals and have thought about this a lot and would prefer an original but if I had a hardtop I would still want a sunroof so I would do a graft. And I would buy one that already has a graft over a hardtop as long as it was done well. An original would be worth the most but I would still pay at least as much for a well grafted 3-fold as a hardtop if not a bit more. Years ago when I was 17, I had a 54 with a 2-fold grafted in (before I knew the difference) and I am sure that it would be a hard sell and be worth a lot less and have seen similar cars sit on here for a long time and they would not interest me.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 06, 2019 6:53 am    Post subject: Re: value difference grafting 3 fold in 54 Reply with quote

Personally I wouldn’t cut into original but it’s your car
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 06, 2019 8:23 am    Post subject: Re: value difference grafting 3 fold in 54 Reply with quote

I had a 3 fold installed into my 54. the roof of my car was wavy and would have required work to bring it back. I made the decision to spend the money and get the rag top.
Best decision i have ever made. I enjoy the car more. I do not think it takes any value away and actually adds value as it is still more desirable than a hard top.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 06, 2019 9:13 am    Post subject: Re: value difference grafting 3 fold in 54 Reply with quote

If the roof was wavy i wouldnt think twice. I guess my problem is i know my luck and the day i cut into roof im going to find a split with a wavy roof. Im glad to hear the positives from you. I know purist dont like to hear stuff like that. My last 2 bugs were rags a 56 and 57 and i guess. Spoiled. If i restore car without rag im not going to enjoy driving it. Never had a 3 fold and i heard its even better
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 06, 2019 9:20 am    Post subject: Re: value difference grafting 3 fold in 54 Reply with quote

I'm sort of a purist and it doesn't Bug me at all.

If you told me you had a nice low mileage all original paint car and were cutting it in? That would seem like a mistake to me.

If it's being painted and restored, go for it.

I don't own a Bug right now but I wouldn't buy one to keep and drive unless it was a Ragtop. I had a '56 Rag. Once you have a Ragtop car, you can't go backward.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 10, 2019 2:47 pm    Post subject: Re: value difference grafting 3 fold in 54 Reply with quote

I did it to mine
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 24, 2019 8:25 am    Post subject: Re: value difference grafting 3 fold in 54 Reply with quote

My 54 had a two fold badly installed. Overlap and bondo. I cut it back out even before I found my three fold clip... I was going three fold or back to hardtop regardless. I now have the 3 fold to fit. I hope to enjoy it despite not being original to the car. The car will be improved from how I got it for sure!
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