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PostPosted: Thu Jun 06, 2019 5:10 pm    Post subject: Westfalia co. doesnt acknowledge their past? Reply with quote

In the process of restoring my 77 westy poptop and luggage racks, I have been trying to determine if the westfalia script sticker and/or the small side stickers were original equipment or not. I read multiple posts here and various opinions and decided to just ask the source and sent an email to the Westfalia Co. I simply asked my same question to them and heres what I got for a response.

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Is there a history that I missed between VW and Wetfalia? I appreciate that I even got a response, but that was a little disheartening. Westfalia is still making campers and conversions, but maybe not for the new VW bus? They have Fords and Mercedes all over their site.

Anyways, anyone want to chime in about whether or not they think the stickers were put there originally or not.

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 06, 2019 5:20 pm    Post subject: Re: Westfalia co. doesnt acknowledge their past? Reply with quote

No surprise, most larger companies who's product and management changes dramatically on a regular basis don't give a damn what they did 40+ years ago.

As for stickers a 77 would have had a small one with the colored horse logo on each side of the luggage rack near the back, no stickers of any kind on the pop top (that's a 79 only deal).
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 07, 2019 4:44 am    Post subject: Re: Westfalia co. doesnt acknowledge their past? Reply with quote

ok, thanks for that. will be ordering those horse ones.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 10, 2019 1:23 pm    Post subject: Re: Westfalia co. doesnt acknowledge their past? Reply with quote

Westfalia Van Conversion went bankrupt a little over ten years ago. They sold off the Westfalia Museum and the company was later reorganized out of bankruptcy. The current corporate entity is distinct from our classic conversions unfortunately.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Westfalia
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 10, 2019 2:06 pm    Post subject: Re: Westfalia co. doesnt acknowledge their past? Reply with quote

on a side note, so did callaway cars....I live about 30 mins from them and stopped in to talk about a scirocco I had that they built. zero interest in their past
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 10, 2019 2:46 pm    Post subject: Re: Westfalia co. doesnt acknowledge their past? Reply with quote

Yep. You are now one of several I know of including myself that has asked for any history or leads on where to find it.

Its just as everyone is saying. They have been bought and sold too many times over the last 20 odd years and have long lost any ties to what we have. Most people that collect older Westfalia stuff, especially VW related, knows vastly more than anyone currently employed at Westfalia Werks today.

Closest I have come to gaining any first hand stories or information was from the children of workers at the old factory. Sadly those old duffers are dead and I was the one putting a smile on the kids faces with old pics from those days.

Maybe some day a chest with cool information will be found. Till then - make sure you get the sticker with the correct horse and not the modern one. Wink
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 10, 2019 3:45 pm    Post subject: Re: Westfalia co. doesnt acknowledge their past? Reply with quote

if you speak German you can go as far back as about 2008 on Archive.org under Westfalia-Werke . The english pages aren't saved.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 10, 2019 5:31 pm    Post subject: Re: Westfalia co. doesnt acknowledge their past? Reply with quote

The Westfalia script was a '79-only item, and only on the rear
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 10, 2019 7:10 pm    Post subject: Re: Westfalia co. doesnt acknowledge their past? Reply with quote

lot of literature here: https://www.thesamba.com/vw/archives/lit/type2_2.php
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 10, 2019 7:20 pm    Post subject: Re: Westfalia co. doesnt acknowledge their past? Reply with quote

notchboy wrote:
. Till then - make sure you get the sticker with the correct horse and not the modern one. Wink


Wait, what? What of this correct horse you speak of? Is his mane parted, does he stand on up on the wrong foot, is he facing the wrong way? Surely I cant be expected to know to NOT buy the correct f’in horse logo! Oh what cruel intentions these nuggets of wisdom do impart. I will now toss and turn all night dreading I pick the wrong logo. Sweet dreams.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 10, 2019 7:27 pm    Post subject: Re: Westfalia co. doesnt acknowledge their past? Reply with quote

SGKent wrote:
lot of literature here: https://www.thesamba.com/vw/archives/lit/type2_2.php


Speed control! Oh hells yeah! I gotta find that one.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 10, 2019 7:37 pm    Post subject: Re: Westfalia co. doesnt acknowledge their past? Reply with quote

Jetfxr69 wrote:
notchboy wrote:
. Till then - make sure you get the sticker with the correct horse and not the modern one. Wink


Wait, what? What of this correct horse you speak of? Is his mane parted, does he stand on up on the wrong foot, is he facing the wrong way? Surely I cant be expected to know to NOT buy the correct f’in horse logo! Oh what cruel intentions these nuggets of wisdom do impart. I will now toss and turn all night dreading I pick the wrong logo. Sweet dreams.


That brought a smile to my face! Wink
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 10, 2019 7:55 pm    Post subject: Re: Westfalia co. doesnt acknowledge their past? Reply with quote

Wrong


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Right

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 10, 2019 8:11 pm    Post subject: Re: Westfalia co. doesnt acknowledge their past? Reply with quote

Recognize this pic?

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I see, it appears that the tail on fire is what im looking for. Copy, thanks. I will now hassle every merchant and demand tail on fire horse, to which I expect to be told, GFY!
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 11, 2019 6:54 am    Post subject: Re: Westfalia co. doesnt acknowledge their past? Reply with quote

It boils down to an era correct version. I think the latter came about during the '90s? Not sure. See when I started the rabbit hole, I bought the wrong shit. It was all that was out there. Since then there has been a nice upswing in guys that want the right stuff and make it themselves and sell extras to other like-minded people.

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 11, 2019 7:32 am    Post subject: Re: Westfalia co. doesnt acknowledge their past? Reply with quote

Sportsmobile buses were converted just down the road from here in the next town over. They're still in business. I keep meaning to stop by someday (even though I don't own a Sportsmobile), but I get the feeling no one there will care or know anything about the old conversions.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 11, 2019 9:19 am    Post subject: Re: Westfalia co. doesnt acknowledge their past? Reply with quote

blue72beetle wrote:
Sportsmobile buses were converted just down the road from here in the next town over. They're still in business. I keep meaning to stop by someday (even though I don't own a Sportsmobile), but I get the feeling no one there will care or know anything about the old conversions.



Sportsmobile is the exception and by far a true survivor within the Camping/RV/Outdoor market. If I wanted to travel the states, Id get a proper rig from them for sure. They do some kick ass work.

Oh and I want to visit this place as well!



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