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Jetfxr69 Samba Member
Joined: December 28, 2018 Posts: 1293 Location: White mtns nh
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Posted: Thu Jun 06, 2019 5:10 pm Post subject: Westfalia co. doesnt acknowledge their past? |
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In the process of restoring my 77 westy poptop and luggage racks, I have been trying to determine if the westfalia script sticker and/or the small side stickers were original equipment or not. I read multiple posts here and various opinions and decided to just ask the source and sent an email to the Westfalia Co. I simply asked my same question to them and heres what I got for a response.
Is there a history that I missed between VW and Wetfalia? I appreciate that I even got a response, but that was a little disheartening. Westfalia is still making campers and conversions, but maybe not for the new VW bus? They have Fords and Mercedes all over their site.
Anyways, anyone want to chime in about whether or not they think the stickers were put there originally or not.
Go Bruins! _________________ You can't be a real country unless you have a beer and an airline. It helps if you have some kind of a football team, or some nuclear weapons, but at the very least you need a beer. Zappa
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busdaddy Samba Member
Joined: February 12, 2004 Posts: 51145 Location: Surrey B.C. Canada, but thinking of Ukraine
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Posted: Thu Jun 06, 2019 5:20 pm Post subject: Re: Westfalia co. doesnt acknowledge their past? |
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No surprise, most larger companies who's product and management changes dramatically on a regular basis don't give a damn what they did 40+ years ago.
As for stickers a 77 would have had a small one with the colored horse logo on each side of the luggage rack near the back, no stickers of any kind on the pop top (that's a 79 only deal). _________________ Rust NEVER sleeps and stock never goes out of style.
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Jetfxr69 Samba Member
Joined: December 28, 2018 Posts: 1293 Location: White mtns nh
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Posted: Fri Jun 07, 2019 4:44 am Post subject: Re: Westfalia co. doesnt acknowledge their past? |
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ok, thanks for that. will be ordering those horse ones. _________________ You can't be a real country unless you have a beer and an airline. It helps if you have some kind of a football team, or some nuclear weapons, but at the very least you need a beer. Zappa
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otiswesty Samba Member
Joined: November 21, 2006 Posts: 1730 Location: Portland
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Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2019 1:23 pm Post subject: Re: Westfalia co. doesnt acknowledge their past? |
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Westfalia Van Conversion went bankrupt a little over ten years ago. They sold off the Westfalia Museum and the company was later reorganized out of bankruptcy. The current corporate entity is distinct from our classic conversions unfortunately.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Westfalia _________________ 1978 Sage Green P22 Westfalia
1989 T3 Syncro Single cab
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skills@eurocarsplus Samba Peckerhead
Joined: January 01, 2007 Posts: 16879 Location: sticksville, ct.
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Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2019 2:06 pm Post subject: Re: Westfalia co. doesnt acknowledge their past? |
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on a side note, so did callaway cars....I live about 30 mins from them and stopped in to talk about a scirocco I had that they built. zero interest in their past _________________
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my reason for switching to subaru is my german car was turning chinese so i said fuck it and went japanese....... |
Jake Raby wrote: |
Thanks for the correction. I used to be a nice guy, then I ruined it by exposing myself to the public. |
Brian wrote: |
Also the fact that people are agreeing with Skills, it's a turn of events for samba history |
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notchboy Samba Member
Joined: April 27, 2002 Posts: 22460 Location: Escondido CA
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Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2019 2:46 pm Post subject: Re: Westfalia co. doesnt acknowledge their past? |
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Yep. You are now one of several I know of including myself that has asked for any history or leads on where to find it.
Its just as everyone is saying. They have been bought and sold too many times over the last 20 odd years and have long lost any ties to what we have. Most people that collect older Westfalia stuff, especially VW related, knows vastly more than anyone currently employed at Westfalia Werks today.
Closest I have come to gaining any first hand stories or information was from the children of workers at the old factory. Sadly those old duffers are dead and I was the one putting a smile on the kids faces with old pics from those days.
Maybe some day a chest with cool information will be found. Till then - make sure you get the sticker with the correct horse and not the modern one. _________________
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OK, this thread is over. You win. |
Jason "notchboy" Weigel
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1964 T34 S Convertible
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SGKent Samba Member
Joined: October 30, 2007 Posts: 41031 Location: Citrus Heights CA (Near Sacramento)
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Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2019 3:45 pm Post subject: Re: Westfalia co. doesnt acknowledge their past? |
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if you speak German you can go as far back as about 2008 on Archive.org under Westfalia-Werke . The english pages aren't saved. _________________ “Most people don’t know what they’re doing, and a lot of them are really good at it.” - George Carlin |
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Gregg in the 603 Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2019 5:31 pm Post subject: Re: Westfalia co. doesnt acknowledge their past? |
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The Westfalia script was a '79-only item, and only on the rear _________________ 1979 Mexico Beige Westy auto
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SGKent Samba Member
Joined: October 30, 2007 Posts: 41031 Location: Citrus Heights CA (Near Sacramento)
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Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2019 7:10 pm Post subject: Re: Westfalia co. doesnt acknowledge their past? |
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lot of literature here: https://www.thesamba.com/vw/archives/lit/type2_2.php _________________ “Most people don’t know what they’re doing, and a lot of them are really good at it.” - George Carlin |
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Jetfxr69 Samba Member
Joined: December 28, 2018 Posts: 1293 Location: White mtns nh
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Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2019 7:20 pm Post subject: Re: Westfalia co. doesnt acknowledge their past? |
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notchboy wrote: |
. Till then - make sure you get the sticker with the correct horse and not the modern one. |
Wait, what? What of this correct horse you speak of? Is his mane parted, does he stand on up on the wrong foot, is he facing the wrong way? Surely I cant be expected to know to NOT buy the correct f’in horse logo! Oh what cruel intentions these nuggets of wisdom do impart. I will now toss and turn all night dreading I pick the wrong logo. Sweet dreams. _________________ You can't be a real country unless you have a beer and an airline. It helps if you have some kind of a football team, or some nuclear weapons, but at the very least you need a beer. Zappa
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‘76 tintop Crusher
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Jetfxr69 Samba Member
Joined: December 28, 2018 Posts: 1293 Location: White mtns nh
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Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2019 7:27 pm Post subject: Re: Westfalia co. doesnt acknowledge their past? |
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Speed control! Oh hells yeah! I gotta find that one.
_________________ You can't be a real country unless you have a beer and an airline. It helps if you have some kind of a football team, or some nuclear weapons, but at the very least you need a beer. Zappa
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jtauxe Samba Member
Joined: September 30, 2004 Posts: 5780 Location: Los Alamos, New Mexico
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Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2019 7:37 pm Post subject: Re: Westfalia co. doesnt acknowledge their past? |
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Jetfxr69 wrote: |
notchboy wrote: |
. Till then - make sure you get the sticker with the correct horse and not the modern one. |
Wait, what? What of this correct horse you speak of? Is his mane parted, does he stand on up on the wrong foot, is he facing the wrong way? Surely I cant be expected to know to NOT buy the correct f’in horse logo! Oh what cruel intentions these nuggets of wisdom do impart. I will now toss and turn all night dreading I pick the wrong logo. Sweet dreams. |
That brought a smile to my face! _________________ John
"Travelling in a fried-out Kombi, on a hippie trail, head full of zombie..." - Colin Hay and Ron Strykert
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1969 Transporter, 1971 Westfalia, 1976, 1977, 1976, 1977, 1971, 1973, 1977 Westfalias,
1979 Champagne Sunroof, 1974 Westfalia Automatic, 1979 Transporter, 1972 Sportsmobile, 1973 Transporter Wild Westerner, 1974 Westfalia parts bus, 1975 Mexican single cab *FOR SALE*, 1978 Irish 4-door double cab RHD
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notchboy Samba Member
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Jetfxr69 Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2019 8:11 pm Post subject: Re: Westfalia co. doesnt acknowledge their past? |
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Recognize this pic?
I see, it appears that the tail on fire is what im looking for. Copy, thanks. I will now hassle every merchant and demand tail on fire horse, to which I expect to be told, GFY! _________________ You can't be a real country unless you have a beer and an airline. It helps if you have some kind of a football team, or some nuclear weapons, but at the very least you need a beer. Zappa
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‘76 tintop Crusher
‘77 westy The Judge
‘72 tintop bastard westy Hudson |
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notchboy Samba Member
Joined: April 27, 2002 Posts: 22460 Location: Escondido CA
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Posted: Tue Jun 11, 2019 6:54 am Post subject: Re: Westfalia co. doesnt acknowledge their past? |
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It boils down to an era correct version. I think the latter came about during the '90s? Not sure. See when I started the rabbit hole, I bought the wrong shit. It was all that was out there. Since then there has been a nice upswing in guys that want the right stuff and make it themselves and sell extras to other like-minded people.
If you are really good and keep paying attention, I'll show you the secret handshake and introduce you to Marty. He closes up at night but will let you stay if you bring a certain 5th of magic elixir. _________________
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OK, this thread is over. You win. |
Jason "notchboy" Weigel
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1964 T34 S Convertible
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blue72beetle Samba Member
Joined: April 23, 2008 Posts: 846 Location: Fort Wayne, IN
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Posted: Tue Jun 11, 2019 7:32 am Post subject: Re: Westfalia co. doesnt acknowledge their past? |
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Sportsmobile buses were converted just down the road from here in the next town over. They're still in business. I keep meaning to stop by someday (even though I don't own a Sportsmobile), but I get the feeling no one there will care or know anything about the old conversions. _________________ -Andy-
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notchboy Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Jun 11, 2019 9:19 am Post subject: Re: Westfalia co. doesnt acknowledge their past? |
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blue72beetle wrote: |
Sportsmobile buses were converted just down the road from here in the next town over. They're still in business. I keep meaning to stop by someday (even though I don't own a Sportsmobile), but I get the feeling no one there will care or know anything about the old conversions. |
Sportsmobile is the exception and by far a true survivor within the Camping/RV/Outdoor market. If I wanted to travel the states, Id get a proper rig from them for sure. They do some kick ass work.
Oh and I want to visit this place as well!
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t3kg wrote: |
OK, this thread is over. You win. |
Jason "notchboy" Weigel
1964 1500 S
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