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PostPosted: Mon Jun 17, 2019 3:28 pm    Post subject: Racing seats and harnesses help Reply with quote

Hi, I am looking at putting in racing seats into my 73 vw beetle. I was hoping to see if anyone knew any good seats and harnesses, and how hard it is to install.[/list]
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 17, 2019 3:41 pm    Post subject: Re: Racing seats and harnesses help Reply with quote

Recaro Speed S seats -- not exactly racing seats . . . but here is how we did it:
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?p=6902558#6902558
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 17, 2019 4:16 pm    Post subject: Re: Racing seats and harnesses help Reply with quote

I have the empi race trim seats in my bug. I bought the empi seat risers that bolt to the floor and the seats bolt right in. For seat belts I have 4 point harnesses and I looked on line. There is a place in California that makes racing harnesses and they’re not to expensive. RJS racing made the seat belts.
I’ll see if I can post a picture for you
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 17, 2019 4:54 pm    Post subject: Re: Racing seats and harnesses help Reply with quote

Crow harness. Scroll down for harness mounting locations.
https://www.google.com/search?q=crow+harness+insta...p;ie=UTF-8
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 17, 2019 7:09 pm    Post subject: Re: Racing seats and harnesses help Reply with quote

Are you wanting the seats/harnesses for looks, or are you using the car in some sort of competition? If you need the installation to pass some sort of tech inspection, buy a rule book for the sanctioning body before you do anything else. What one may consider a convenient, and clean looking installation may have safety consequences that wouldn’t pass tech.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 17, 2019 7:24 pm    Post subject: Re: Racing seats and harnesses help Reply with quote

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Are you wanting the seats/harnesses for looks, or are you using the car in some sort of competition? If you need the installation to pass some sort of tech inspection, buy a rule book for the sanctioning body before you do anything else. What one may consider a convenient, and clean looking installation may have safety consequences that wouldn’t pass tech.

This!

Different sanctioning bodies have different requirements. I was consulting a cage builder & he was adamant that I source a Kirky aluminum seat, after reviewing NASA’s rule book, it said no aluminum shell racing seats & specifically mentioned NO Kirky seats would be allowed.

Whatever you do, do not install racing seats and 4/5 point harnesses in a vehicle without at least a roll bar with a properly positioned harness bar. Racing seats & harnesses are designed to keep your body upright, if there is no roll bar then you’re far more likely to experience spinal compression & head injuries.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 17, 2019 7:39 pm    Post subject: Re: Racing seats and harnesses help Reply with quote

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Are you wanting the seats/harnesses for looks, or are you using the car in some sort of competition? If you need the installation to pass some sort of tech inspection, buy a rule book for the sanctioning body before you do anything else. What one may consider a convenient, and clean looking installation may have safety consequences that wouldn’t pass tech.


I plan on building a bigger engine, and just using the bug for canyon carving, and "street racing" maybe track days I don't know yet.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 17, 2019 7:42 pm    Post subject: Re: Racing seats and harnesses help Reply with quote

TDCTDI wrote:
[email protected] wrote:
Are you wanting the seats/harnesses for looks, or are you using the car in some sort of competition? If you need the installation to pass some sort of tech inspection, buy a rule book for the sanctioning body before you do anything else. What one may consider a convenient, and clean looking installation may have safety consequences that wouldn’t pass tech.

This!

Different sanctioning bodies have different requirements. I was consulting a cage builder & he was adamant that I source a Kirky aluminum seat, after reviewing NASA’s rule book, it said no aluminum shell racing seats & specifically mentioned NO Kirky seats would be allowed.

Yes I plan on putting a cage in the car, and put a harnesses holder in the car.

Whatever you do, do not install racing seats and 4/5 point harnesses in a vehicle without at least a roll bar with a properly positioned harness bar. Racing seats & harnesses are designed to keep your body upright, if there is no roll bar then you’re far more likely to experience spinal compression & head injuries.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 17, 2019 7:58 pm    Post subject: Re: Racing seats and harnesses help Reply with quote

Straight line, or auto x track days? Might be of interest to get both rule books. Like TDCTDI mentioned, improper installation can hurt you more than it will help you in an incident. A lot of improper installations are for show, and never get tested. I know of a few personally witnessed catastrophic instances where rule books were followed to a “T”, and the person survived with minor injuries.

Another thing to think about is to install stuff only if you are going to use it. Ridged seats with supportive sides are great for driving, but may become a pain in the ass getting in/out of the car for daily driving. And you may want to ditch the belts about the 5th time you want to reach for your pop on the floor, or your cell phone in the glove box, and you have to unbuckle your non-retractable harness to allow you to reach it.
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