Reconstruction of the 1937 W30/26

[RUNKLE]

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Thanks finster, much better photo showing the roofline and window detail.

Here’s a better comparison between the two at the same scale and angle.

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[olo]

Personally I like the slight ‘chop top’ rake, could the slight difference be due to buck that was used to build the Autostadt W30 replica (page 3 of this thread)?

[cyberdyne systems 101]

This car has an entirely new buck made as the Autostadt car was dimensionally wrong as it was based around a production beetle.

I guess that should also prove this is the correct lines and shape for the W30. Which car is the anomaly that has the larger door glass? And are there any other photos of it against the correct ones as shown in the window line up shot?

Gareth
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56' Oval
71' Westy

[allsidius]

[cyberdyne systems 101]

Looking at the pictures through this thread, the first body, body zero is the one that it at least appears to have the larger door, and was the only one assembled by Porsche. Could it be that this body was produced alone before the others that were built together in greater numbers, and therfore isn't quite the same as all the others.
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56' Oval
71' Westy

[low_and_slow]

I’m dying to know how this project is going. Any updates; don’t care how small, just love to see the body progress! Thank you

[finster]

on display this weekend at the volksworld show, UK
Photos - Bjoern Schewe

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[D-train]

That looks insane!
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[cyberdyne systems 101]

I wished they (Volksworld) had advertised this, I would have tried to go along to see it. I'm sure this won't be the only time it comes over here though, still more stages to go to complete this body for this original chassis.
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56' Oval
71' Westy

[bnam]

I'm just catching up on this wonderful thread. The workmanship and effort being put in is incredible.

Coming to the last pic I noticed some differences in the details that I wanted to ask about.

It seems like the radius of the corners of the window opening inset edges are sharper in the recreation than in the pic of one of the originals (of course there probably was variance in the originals). Also, while in the recreation, the border is flat and evenly sized around the window, in the original, it is noticeably thinner on top vs. the rear. The edges seem to be a bit bulged/rounded rather than flat (which may also make it seem narrower).

Also, the front bottom corner of the rear window has a much wider radius on the older pic (I've not marked this).
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[cyberdyne systems 101]

The original W30's almost look like some areas were made in a press, the doors as you've pointed out, they do seem more curvy and rounded and less flat than the new body, also the rear quarter windows, could they have made a tooling that they formed the panel over so it was like this originally?

I don't think we'll ever get the perfect replica body, it'll be close in a lot of ways, and get things pretty much right in a lot of areas, but it simply wasn't made over 80+ years ago with the same tools and people doing it.
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71' Westy

[fossil]

First of all: I don´t think the original cars were similar to each other in the way 1960ies beetles were. And then: This car is completely hand-built. Instead of nitpicking everybody should cherish the fantastic work these guys deliver. And the willingness to share this endeavour with us.
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[splitjunkie]

Sure, there are a lot of details that are a bit off to many of us. The thing to remember is that unless you have an original car to use as a guide, any recreation is going to be off. Building a body as complex as a W30 using only pictures and drawings is a huge challenge.


Perhaps they will change some of them based on our observations or maybe they are happy with it the way it is and feel it is close enough given the money they have spent.

Having seen one of the two recreations that VW had made, this thing is far and away much closer than those cars.


Just look at the challenge BBT has had making split front fenders. And they have plenty of examples to reference and there appear to still be some pretty serious issues based on user reports.
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[RUNKLE]

Prototypes, they vary from one to another, this is true, because they are prototypes. But one must give a little more credit to the coach builders back then without the benefits of modern technology. I bet you could take a door of one and it would fit another of the same prototype, not to interchange with prototypes Before or after that model.

Here we are talking about one particular prototype, and the replication of that prototype. The coach builder that did the work, they did a phenomenal job in recreating what was given to them. As one can see in the series of images below. The first image is obviously the original prototype to be replicated, the second is the replica, and the last is of the drawing that was provided, if not that particular drawing, one similar. The drawing and the final product match fairly close, just does not match the original prototype to be replicated. Somewhere in the beginning of the thread, there’s mention of the previous replica and its flaws, and how those flaw were going to be addressed, and they were. To continue that discussion in regards to the new replica is beneficial in achieving a more accurate representation. I realize a lot people don’t do metal work, so they find this jaw dropping. Me, I’m familiar with this level of quality, and know what it takes to get there, so it is not lost on me. If one is to invest the time, effort and capital into a project like this, it better be spot on.

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[VW_Jimbo]

The door handle recess is not correct in shape and the door handle is not pointing the same as the original one. Just a few small details.

But, I love this thread and know that it was an enormous effort to get this car to this level! I think it is awesome and hope to some day see it in person!
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[Undis]

Some more photos from the WolksWorld show. I heard it made quite the impression there. Unfortunately, I was not there myself, so photos borrowed from Facebook.

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