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tasb The Distributor Distributor
Joined: April 27, 2002 Posts: 6371 Location: Pentwater, Michigan
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Posted: Sat May 15, 2004 1:35 pm Post subject: Dove blue working class bus hub cap color? |
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Somewhere I have read that early working class buses had painted hubcaps except for dove blue buses that had chrome. I rechecked Eccles and Meredith's texts but nothing specific. Anyone know where I have seen this in print or am I just dreaming? Thanks |
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spookymulder Samba Proletariat
Joined: January 02, 2004 Posts: 3298 Location: I'm either at 95608, 97537 or 94708 only my CPA knows for sure
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Posted: Sat May 15, 2004 1:43 pm Post subject: |
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The early buses had chrome and the 59 and later I believe had painted code L345 light grey.
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SHSC Samba Member
Joined: February 02, 2001 Posts: 1785 Location: Oklahoma City
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Posted: Sat May 15, 2004 2:23 pm Post subject: |
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Primer is sooo much more romantic. _________________ DKB |
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RickC Samba Member
Joined: August 04, 2001 Posts: 125 Location: Monterey County, CA
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Posted: Sat May 15, 2004 6:03 pm Post subject: |
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Here's some more info ... chrome hubcaps were available on 211, 231, and 261's at extra cost. All dove blue (L31) vehicles had "dove grey" (L249) colored hubcaps. Other, non-dove blue vehicles, had the L345 light gray caps. If anyone has an original painted L249 cap, can you get it scanned at a DuPont, PPG or Glasurit paint dealer? We could all use a formula for L249. _________________ Rick Clark in Monterey County, CA USA
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Lind Samba Member
Joined: November 06, 2000 Posts: 9905 Location: idaho
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Posted: Sat May 15, 2004 7:44 pm Post subject: |
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RickC wrote: |
If anyone has an original painted L249 cap, can you get it scanned at a DuPont, PPG or Glasurit paint dealer? We could all use a formula for L249. |
I have about 15 painted caps. about half of them are presentable and a few of them are really nice. a freind of mine who owns a body shop had my nicest one scanned when he painted the caps for his '67 doublecab. I'll ask him which paint shop scanned it and see if they still have the formula. otherwise, you would be welcome to borrow it and get it scanned. _________________ .
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Okie Adam Samba Member
Joined: November 07, 2003 Posts: 1345 Location: OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOklahoma
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Posted: Sat May 15, 2004 7:59 pm Post subject: |
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so would a (my) '58 panel have come with chrome??? _________________ Oil Capital Air Cooled
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Lind Samba Member
Joined: November 06, 2000 Posts: 9905 Location: idaho
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Posted: Sat May 15, 2004 8:08 pm Post subject: |
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one percenter wrote: |
so would a (my) '58 panel have come with chrome??? |
yes, all pre '59 buses had chrome hubcaps. _________________ .
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Okie Adam Samba Member
Joined: November 07, 2003 Posts: 1345 Location: OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOklahoma
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Posted: Sat May 15, 2004 8:10 pm Post subject: |
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Lind wrote: |
one percenter wrote: |
so would a (my) '58 panel have come with chrome??? |
yes, all pre '59 buses had chrome hubcaps. |
Thanks Lind. Ouch, decision time. Original look or my favored primer caps. _________________ Oil Capital Air Cooled
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Lind Samba Member
Joined: November 06, 2000 Posts: 9905 Location: idaho
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Posted: Sat May 15, 2004 8:16 pm Post subject: |
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one percenter wrote: |
Lind wrote: |
one percenter wrote: |
so would a (my) '58 panel have come with chrome??? |
yes, all pre '59 buses had chrome hubcaps. |
Thanks Lind. Ouch, decision time. Original look or my favored primer caps. |
I know, painted caps look so much better than chrome caps on commercial models. _________________ .
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SHSC Samba Member
Joined: February 02, 2001 Posts: 1785 Location: Oklahoma City
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Posted: Sat May 15, 2004 8:37 pm Post subject: |
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Has anyone ever stripped the primer off of a primer cap and then taken a photo? I would like to see whats under there. Obviously raw metal, but just curious. _________________ DKB |
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Lind Samba Member
Joined: November 06, 2000 Posts: 9905 Location: idaho
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Posted: Sat May 15, 2004 8:47 pm Post subject: |
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SHSC wrote: |
Has anyone ever stripped the primer off of a primer cap and then taken a photo? I would like to see whats under there. Obviously raw metal, but just curious. |
wouldn't you have to strip the paint off first before the primer? if you are really interested, I have a crappy painted cap that you can strip.
the paint is shiny if you buff it out. _________________ .
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RickC Samba Member
Joined: August 04, 2001 Posts: 125 Location: Monterey County, CA
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Posted: Sun May 16, 2004 8:36 am Post subject: |
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Lind, could I borrow 1 of those original paint caps from a dove blue vehicle to scan? I appreciate your help and it would be nice to finally have a formula for L249. OCTO? See you there. _________________ Rick Clark in Monterey County, CA USA
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Lind Samba Member
Joined: November 06, 2000 Posts: 9905 Location: idaho
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Posted: Sun May 16, 2004 9:01 am Post subject: |
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RickC wrote: |
Lind, could I borrow 1 of those original paint caps from a dove blue vehicle to scan? I appreciate your help and it would be nice to finally have a formula for L249. OCTO? See you there. |
you got it. I will bring a couple of them. _________________ .
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diy570 Samba Member
Joined: September 19, 2003 Posts: 1062 Location: Maggie Valley, NC
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Posted: Sat Mar 04, 2006 8:16 pm Post subject: |
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did you guys ever come up with a ppg formula for dove grey? |
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Lind Samba Member
Joined: November 06, 2000 Posts: 9905 Location: idaho
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Posted: Sat Mar 04, 2006 8:52 pm Post subject: |
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irievolks wrote: |
did you guys ever come up with a ppg formula for dove grey? |
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=153084
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diy570 Samba Member
Joined: September 19, 2003 Posts: 1062 Location: Maggie Valley, NC
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Posted: Sat Mar 04, 2006 8:56 pm Post subject: |
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man, i thought i looked thru all the dove grey threads. don't know how i missed that one. thanks lind! |
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Clara Samba Member
Joined: June 14, 2003 Posts: 12383
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Posted: Sun Mar 05, 2006 9:44 am Post subject: |
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Lind wrote: |
one percenter wrote: |
so would a (my) '58 panel have come with chrome??? |
yes, all pre '59 buses had chrome hubcaps. |
Are you saying I have the wrong hubcaps on the Jan 58 DD panel from Idaho? The ones we found with it were orange over the og grey, and I had one or two grey caps to complete the set. _________________ The Obsolete Air-Cooled Documentation Project http://oacdp.org/ |
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splitpile Samba's Worst Speller
Joined: May 03, 2000 Posts: 5927 Location: back to living where hell meets the suface
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Posted: Sun Mar 05, 2006 10:29 am Post subject: |
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The container van from OZ had 4 primmered hub caps on it, not paint but dull primer it's a 64. _________________ Stocking distributor of "The Funky Green Panels"
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Lind Samba Member
Joined: November 06, 2000 Posts: 9905 Location: idaho
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Posted: Sun Mar 05, 2006 11:41 am Post subject: |
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Clara wrote: |
Lind wrote: |
one percenter wrote: |
so would a (my) '58 panel have come with chrome??? |
yes, all pre '59 buses had chrome hubcaps. |
Are you saying I have the wrong hubcaps on the Jan 58 DD panel from Idaho? The ones we found with it were orange over the og grey, and I had one or two grey caps to complete the set. |
I was wrong on that. I previously believed what I had read in PR about them, but since then, I have seen enough examples of original '58 buses with painted hubcaps that I now believe that '58 was the first year of painted hubcaps, although I don't have enough information to tell if it was a model year change. the boise panel was not a strong source because it has quite a few miles on it and has been repainted twice and has plnety of miles on it, but it did generally support my hypothesis. (dented hupcaps are something that could likely get replaced when a bus is getting painted. lower miles unmolested buses are stonger evidence) I would have changed my old posts to reflect the new information, but they are more than 1500 minutes old. _________________ .
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JonnySox Samba Member
Joined: August 17, 2009 Posts: 81 Location: Utah
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Posted: Thu Jan 04, 2018 9:24 pm Post subject: Re: Dove blue working class bus hub cap color? |
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I love finding old threads that have all but died and doing a bit of CPR to revive them....Lets say i have a 1956 double door panel and i am buying caps.... sounds like i need chrome ones even though primer is romantic and grey looks cooler and chrome is OG....did i get that correct? Cause i have one and I'm buying some.... _________________ Looking for Sigla sliders
-1956 Vert
-1956 DD Panel |
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