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PostPosted: Thu Feb 27, 2020 11:13 am    Post subject: Re: barn find westy so42 Reply with quote

Cargo Floor and short rocker welding:

we welded up the drain hole for the sink, since I don't have one and it's unlikely I would find one for a reasonable price. yikes these Westy parts are very dear!

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 27, 2020 11:19 am    Post subject: Re: barn find westy so42 Reply with quote

Yes, restoring a Westy is an adventure. Missing pieces are costly and rarely come up. Early Westy's are a whole other story. I'm conflicted with the cooler... one the one hand its nice to have when camping but it also makes it much roomier (especially in a walkthru) to take it out.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 27, 2020 11:24 am    Post subject: Re: barn find westy so42 Reply with quote

Left side Work:

remove Rocker Panel, inner Rocker, floor sections , Left Dog Leg, 2 outriggers and top hats.

rusty rear top hat / outrigger / jack point

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floor cutting

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pile o metal:

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new b pillar and uprights:

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progress Smile
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 06, 2020 6:27 am    Post subject: Re: barn find westy so42 Reply with quote

progress updates:

been stripping paint with a Heat Gun and a Razor Blade. it works pretty good but you have to change razor blades as they get ragged quickly.

I have 3 different razor tools and keep rotating them out til I wear the blade out. as the blade gets ragged it scratches the metal which will take a little bit of sanding to remove.

so start out with a box of 100 razor blades and switch them out often. once you get going it moves along quickly, sure beats using chemical strippers or trying to find a media blaster


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this week I swapped out the drag link and felt like attacking the Swing Lever bushing and pin project. whew that's fun but thanks to the Samba I was able to find proper procedures:


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lower bushing was really worn as you can see the Pin was awful and the bushing had a lip around it where it was wearing.

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reamer in action:

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next up:

reassemble the front spindles, link pins , tie rod ends , so I can get the bus on the floor to roll out and do some sandblasting

install front floor, left side cargo floor, blast the rusty seams and get some epoxy primer on this thing.

cheers..
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 06, 2020 7:41 am    Post subject: Re: barn find westy so42 Reply with quote

nice job on paint stripping- can you get in to a bit more detail on how you are working the razor blade? Are you pulling or pushing the blade? Do you put some lubricant or other prep on paint before so that it doesn't dig in to OG paint etc etc?
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 06, 2020 9:53 am    Post subject: Re: barn find westy so42 Reply with quote

velvetgreen wrote:
nice job on paint stripping- can you get in to a bit more detail on how you are working the razor blade? Are you pulling or pushing the blade? Do you put some lubricant or other prep on paint before so that it doesn't dig in to OG paint etc etc?


when Stripping Paint with a Heat Gun / Razor Blade you will remove all paint down to the Original Primer. it will not save the OG paint.

I use the Hand Held Razor blade On Edge, pushing the blade itself has to be very Flat to the surface and it will move right thru the paint once the surface is warm enough to lift. you have to heat the paint surface and keep the heat gun ahead of your blade and paint just peels off.

I am using 3 different Blade holders , short one for starting on radius portions, long handles for Long runs. hard part is holding the blade flat enough to get the paint, if you are working over a body line ( such as the perimeter line around the bus) the blade wont get flat enough so you have to come back down to it.



I wanted to save the OG paint but this bus has 2 paint jobs on top of the OG L87 Pearl white, so there was really no other way to save the OG , since it has repairs on both rear corners and various other spots.

I suppose somebody could have put the time in to save it, but it has so many little rust spots into the paint, I felt it was time to remove it. I am in the Midwest so if this was a Western bus things might have been different.

in this photo I started low on the door and pushed up to the perimeter body line, I left the few strips intact so you can see how it lifts the paint
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this photo shows how it is hard to get into round , deep spots

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thanks..
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 06, 2020 9:36 pm    Post subject: Re: barn find westy so42 Reply with quote

Thanks so much for the detailed description. I guess I thought you were trying to strip the paint back to original, I appreciate the advice anyway! Cheers
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 18, 2020 8:41 pm    Post subject: Re: barn find westy so42 Reply with quote

Time for an update: since It looks like i'll be hanging out in the garage in my evenings;

I sand blasted the front wheel wells , just to clean things up so I could see how well the seams turned out, looked good sprayed some Epoxy on the front beam and on the wheel well, I will re spray the wheel wells white, after front end is back together

pulled the torsion bars, replaced the Seals, and got the Sway bar back on, that is really a fun job

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got the drivers side floor Welded in, that KF floor is a little bit stiffer than the WW floor that I used on the Passenger side. the WW floor is fine, just thinner gauge than the KF.

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attached the Drivers Side A pillar and installed the Dog Leg, I think it turned out really well. it Lines up nice with the door , gaps are good and im happy with the fit:

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 19, 2020 7:21 pm    Post subject: Re: barn find westy so42 Reply with quote

Can you divulge what kind of welder are you using and at what settings?
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 19, 2020 7:44 pm    Post subject: Re: barn find westy so42 Reply with quote

MrPolak wrote:
Can you divulge what kind of welder are you using and at what settings?


MrPolak, yes, we are using a Lincoln PowerMig 140C with a 75/25 argon/co2 mix, running a .024 wire with wire speed generally around 2 ,2.25, 2.5 and voltage at D D1/4 D1/2 up to E depending upon the thickness of the metal. the PowerMig is a 120v 90 amp unit, nothing too fancy but it really does a nice job on clean sheet metal body panels.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 14, 2020 10:10 am    Post subject: Barn find Westy SO42 Reply with quote

Quarantine Time Updates:

spending a lot of time after work and on the weekends in the garage these days, with no where else to go. so here are some updates:

cleaned the cargo floor with W &G , mixed up a batch of white epoxy primer to paint the cargo floor and get the welds sealed up.
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proceeded to fit the Cab Floor which went very well after some trial fitting. we decided to cut it into 2 pieces to surround the steering Column since the steering wheel would not budge with my puller, the puller was trying to destroy the wheel, so cut the floor with the Plasma cutter into 2 pieces, and weld it back up. actually went very well.

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special thanks goes out to my buddy John the welder, he has been doing a fabulous job on the bus, he is putting in as much time as I have been:

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scuffed with a red pad,cleaned with wax and grease remover and coated with epoxy primer as well:

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reassembled the front end, steering knuckles with new king pins, link pins, new tie rod ends, drag link, and even adjusted the steering box an centered the steering wheel.

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then we attacked the Corner, been holding off on this project mostly out of fear, getting the alignment right and just didn't want to make any mistakes, so we did pretty well, much welding to do as it is only tacked for now but it looks pretty good to me:


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running the temporary engine on the floor for some hours to check for leaks, set the valves and tune up stuff while its out.

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back to work...

until next time.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 14, 2020 3:18 pm    Post subject: Re: Barn find Westy SO42 Reply with quote

Nice keep it up.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 15, 2020 7:56 am    Post subject: Re: Barn find Westy SO42 Reply with quote

Great work! Looks really good!
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