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J. Matt Royston Samba Member
Joined: November 26, 2009 Posts: 94 Location: Roseburg Oregon
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Posted: Tue Jan 07, 2014 9:48 pm Post subject: Largest off-road tire on a stock bus? |
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Yes I know there is a 300 page sticky on tires, but all I want to know is on a stock 14" rim, stock height bus what is the tallest mudder I dare put on that wont rub in front?
Any recommendations on make and model of tire?
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sonofamitch Samba Member
Joined: May 27, 2012 Posts: 325 Location: Evergreen, CO
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Posted: Tue Jan 07, 2014 10:00 pm Post subject: |
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The largest I've seen on a 14in wheel is 27/8.5/r14. I'm sure others have used larger. I run 195/75/r14 BFG All Terrains. I haven't put any miles on them yet but most people seem to like them. |
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J. Matt Royston Samba Member
Joined: November 26, 2009 Posts: 94 Location: Roseburg Oregon
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Posted: Tue Jan 07, 2014 10:02 pm Post subject: Tall Tires |
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Thanks for the tip |
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bugginDJ Samba Member
Joined: June 10, 2013 Posts: 26 Location: Cedar Park, TX
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Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2014 6:29 am Post subject: |
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I don't go off-road, but have driven through some pretty big dips and potholes in my '71 Single Cab. I run 215/75R14 tires with plenty of travel room. I have hit bumps so hard that the front end came off the ground and have never rubbed tires. _________________ Air-cooled VW owner since 1978
current vehicles:
1974 VW Superbeetle
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Red Fau Veh Samba Member
Joined: September 07, 2012 Posts: 3037 Location: Prescott Az.
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I wish all these metric tire sizes had a standard conversion printed on them. Who the hell measures tires by percentages and can visualize sizes based on that crap? I need to see the amount in a known quantity we call "inches" for criminy's sake! _________________ 1971 Deluxe Sunroof Bay 1905 stroker, dual idf40's, 74mm Scat forged crank, engle 110 cam. CB 044 heads, AutoCraft rockers, chromoly push rods
1973 Orange transporter stock type 4 with dual 40 Dellortos and Empi single quiet pack
1969 Adventurewagen blue whale Gene Berg 1776 built by Dave Kawell dual 36 DRLA's, Vintage Speed exhaust, Bosch 019 screamer
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Shaun Murray Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2014 11:21 am Post subject: |
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Here's a couple of pic's of my beater westy. It's completely stock with 27-8.50-14 General Grabber A/T 2's. I've twisted it pretty hard offroad and they've never rubbed. I don't think I could go any bigger though.
_________________ "Cross Country Trip" http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5...highlight= |
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Red Fau Veh Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2014 1:24 pm Post subject: |
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Shaun Murray wrote: |
27-8.50-14 General Grabber A/T 2's.
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Perfect! Now there is a size I can visualize and I don't need to know any formulas of calculation in order to know the actual measurement of the height of the tire. _________________ 1971 Deluxe Sunroof Bay 1905 stroker, dual idf40's, 74mm Scat forged crank, engle 110 cam. CB 044 heads, AutoCraft rockers, chromoly push rods
1973 Orange transporter stock type 4 with dual 40 Dellortos and Empi single quiet pack
1969 Adventurewagen blue whale Gene Berg 1776 built by Dave Kawell dual 36 DRLA's, Vintage Speed exhaust, Bosch 019 screamer
1961 Swivel Seat camper, L345 grey
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Krautski Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2014 1:31 pm Post subject: |
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Red Fau Veh wrote: |
I wish all these metric tire sizes had a standard conversion printed on them. Who the hell measures tires by percentages and can visualize sizes based on that crap? I need to see the amount in a known quantity we call "inches" for criminy's sake! |
Math is hard! |
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Red Fau Veh Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2014 1:51 pm Post subject: |
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For me it is impossible to see the size in my mind unless it is shown as an actual measurement because I was a Montessori schooled kid. I didn't learn math like everyone else, we used colored blocks and tubes full of beads and abacus's to learn math.
_________________ 1971 Deluxe Sunroof Bay 1905 stroker, dual idf40's, 74mm Scat forged crank, engle 110 cam. CB 044 heads, AutoCraft rockers, chromoly push rods
1973 Orange transporter stock type 4 with dual 40 Dellortos and Empi single quiet pack
1969 Adventurewagen blue whale Gene Berg 1776 built by Dave Kawell dual 36 DRLA's, Vintage Speed exhaust, Bosch 019 screamer
1961 Swivel Seat camper, L345 grey
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cptgreenvalley Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2014 2:06 pm Post subject: |
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I went 15 inch alloys with BF Goodrich AT 215 R75 and spacers in the back on my stock bay last year.
However ended up with buying a syncro as well, so those tires are now 4wd snowdrifting on mercedes steel wheels in the Norwegian mountains
_________________ 1979 T2 Camper 2.0FI - Sportsman Conversion ( US import)
1987 T3 Syncro Vanagon 1.9TD ( Decoupler, Double Diffs, Westfalia conversion)
1991 Golf MK2 Country Syncro 1.8
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chazz79 Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2014 3:03 pm Post subject: |
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Red Fau Veh wrote: |
For me it is impossible to see the size in my mind unless it is shown as an actual measurement because I was a Montessori schooled kid. I didn't learn math like everyone else, we used colored blocks and tubes full of beads and abacus's to learn math.
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You poor, retarded, bastard.
I heard about those places, paste was the breakfast food of choice. :p
I had one of those high end public educations.
Largest you can fit at stock height are 215/75/15. Next size up is 225/75/15 but those scrape the wheel arch on the rear. _________________ One day as a lion, or a lifetime as lamb
The green monster in bits and peices: http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=332556&highlight=green+monster |
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Red Fau Veh Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2014 3:16 pm Post subject: |
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To this this day numbers have colors in my mind, that's why sevens will always be green to me. _________________ 1971 Deluxe Sunroof Bay 1905 stroker, dual idf40's, 74mm Scat forged crank, engle 110 cam. CB 044 heads, AutoCraft rockers, chromoly push rods
1973 Orange transporter stock type 4 with dual 40 Dellortos and Empi single quiet pack
1969 Adventurewagen blue whale Gene Berg 1776 built by Dave Kawell dual 36 DRLA's, Vintage Speed exhaust, Bosch 019 screamer
1961 Swivel Seat camper, L345 grey
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Randy in Maine Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2014 5:27 pm Post subject: |
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Of course the ET of the wheel is the critical question. |
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J. Matt Royston Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2014 6:06 pm Post subject: ET |
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ET ???? phone home??? |
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Randy in Maine Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2014 6:33 pm Post subject: |
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From Ratwell.com...
"71-79 buses (with disc brakes) have normal looking wheels with a 5x112 bolt pattern. The rims are 5 1/2" wide (14 x 5.5J is stamped in very tiny letters on the face under the hubcap) and the offset is ET39. ET is German and stands for Einpress Tiefe, a measurement in millimeters of the distance from the centerline of the rim to the back of the bolt face. A negative number would indicate that the bulk of the wheel is inward towards the body." |
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J. Matt Royston Samba Member
Joined: November 26, 2009 Posts: 94 Location: Roseburg Oregon
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Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2014 7:04 pm Post subject: ET |
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Awe ok thanks. I plan on running my stock 14" wheels stamped 12/69
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chazz79 Samba Member
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jmstu76 Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Jan 09, 2014 9:13 am Post subject: |
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sonofamitch wrote: |
The largest I've seen on a 14in wheel is 27/8.5/r14. I'm sure others have used larger. I run 195/75/r14 BFG All Terrains. I haven't put any miles on them yet but most people seem to like them. |
I will not claim this is the largest tire you can run with stock suspension, but I can confirm it is a large tire and has never rubbed on my bus. Most of my miles are on the 27x8.5 r14 tires. First set was the BF's, current set are the General Grabbers. Get them, you'll love them. Check out my pics. _________________ James
'76 Deluxe Sage Green Westy
2258 cc GD case 78mm CW crank, 2.0 H-beam rods 5,325” 22mm pin, JE forged pistons with 15cc dish, JE rings, type 11 clearanced oil pump, CB Eagle 2205 Type-2 “Torque Special” hydraulic cam with matched lifters fed by CB Dual Weber 40 IDF MX with 6” foam air filters, currently 55 idle, 130 main, 200 air correction, 32 mm venturis. 27in General Grabber AT2 All Terrains, Berg Shifter, stock '76 exhaust HPC Ceramic Coated. 11/18/2020 |
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sxuxrxf Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Jan 09, 2014 11:38 am Post subject: |
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chazz79 wrote: |
Go jersey looker and you can run whatever you want. |
I was thinking the same thing. _________________ (ignore the X's ) |
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J. Matt Royston Samba Member
Joined: November 26, 2009 Posts: 94 Location: Roseburg Oregon
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Posted: Thu Jan 09, 2014 5:19 pm Post subject: |
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sxuxrxf
What are those tires on your Westy? those have a sweet profile!
I realize you lifted it 2 1/2 " but what size are they and what is your opinion of max size in that tire at stock height?
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Matt |
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