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PostPosted: Tue Sep 01, 2020 12:04 pm    Post subject: Re: LED replacement bulbs for Bay Window Transporters Reply with quote

I used Katur "1034" for front directional\running lights.
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Katur 1034 in back for stop\tail, Alopee 1073 for directionals

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And no name 7" 200w from Ebay for headlights

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 01, 2020 12:44 pm    Post subject: Re: LED replacement bulbs for Bay Window Transporters Reply with quote

https://vintagecarleds.com/shop/7-inch/vc3500-classic-kit/

These headlights were one of the easiest and bestest upgrades i've done on my bus. I installed them ~ 5 years ago and required no changes to relays or anything...plug n play. They look stock during the daytime and work very well to see where i'm going during the night time. Full low-beam/high-beam action.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 16, 2021 5:37 pm    Post subject: Re: LED replacement bulbs for Bay Window Transporters Reply with quote

I just upgraded to LED cluster, except for alternator, on my 1971.
- My turn signals are all crazy now.
-Seems like I am forgetting something.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 16, 2021 10:19 pm    Post subject: Re: LED replacement bulbs for Bay Window Transporters Reply with quote

That's because the stock flasher is load sensitive, by design. If a stock front or rear turn signal bulb fails, the flasher is supposed to flash faster, so that you know a bulb is bad. LED bulbs pull so little current that the flasher goes nuts.

Solution: replace the flasher with a load-insensitive LED rated unit, or add suitable load resistors to restore the current draw to "normal".
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 17, 2021 8:57 am    Post subject: Re: LED replacement bulbs for Bay Window Transporters Reply with quote

Awesome. Thank you.

-I do have regular bulbs at the frt/rear turn signals.

-Will the new flasher cause any problem with LED cluster bulb and regular turn signal bulbs?
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 17, 2021 9:12 am    Post subject: Re: LED replacement bulbs for Bay Window Transporters Reply with quote

vw donvieira wrote:
Awesome. Thank you.

-I do have regular bulbs at the frt/rear turn signals.

-Will the new flasher cause any problem with LED cluster bulb and regular turn signal bulbs?


You need reverse polarity bulbs for the turn signal cluster. They are powered from the fuse block and ground is switched at the relay from the looks of the wiring diagram.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 17, 2021 9:37 am    Post subject: Re: LED replacement bulbs for Bay Window Transporters Reply with quote

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I do have regular bulbs at the frt/rear turn signals. Will the new flasher cause any problem with LED cluster bulb and regular turn signal bulbs?

You only need the LED flasher if the turn lamps are LED. If all you're changing is the dash indicators, then the stock flasher will work fine. As mentioned above, the indicator lamps must be either reverse polarity or polarity insensitive.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 17, 2021 9:43 am    Post subject: Re: LED replacement bulbs for Bay Window Transporters Reply with quote

I used LEDs for the instrument illumination lights (ordered through SuperBrightLEDs.com). First tried white ones, then went with red. "Red light in the wheelhouse" inspired. The red was nice, but too dim, as it turned out.

I have since reverted to all original bulbs in the instrument panel. It turns out that they are not too bright, and not too dim. Just right, and they respond to dimming properly, unlike the LEDs.

If anyone wants some dashboard illumination LEDs in various colors, you can have mine for the shipping.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 17, 2021 10:14 am    Post subject: Re: LED replacement bulbs for Bay Window Transporters Reply with quote

I like LEDs on the outside of the car, and for the otherwise dim interior (courtesy) light. I have them on the dash lights for the oil and gen, so they come on fast and bright when there is trouble.

Be careful using the dual-filament (tail/brake) combo LEDs in back. Many have the taillight TOO bright, so the effect of braking is not very noticeable. You want a very big difference between brake and tail brightness for safety.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 17, 2021 10:18 am    Post subject: Re: LED replacement bulbs for Bay Window Transporters Reply with quote

There is a greenish dome over the instrument lights inside the instrument cluster that may block the red LED light. It can be removed with a little work.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 18, 2021 10:52 am    Post subject: Re: LED replacement bulbs for Bay Window Transporters Reply with quote

http://auto-hub.com/

LED bulbs for Porsche and VW instrument and interior lighting.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 18, 2021 11:45 am    Post subject: Re: LED replacement bulbs for Bay Window Transporters Reply with quote

For the indicators dash bulb, you need a bulb which lights up both ways round , for when the hazard switch is pulled out with the ignition on ...

Dismantling basic 0.2" LED dash indicator
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The 3528 size LEDs were recycled from another project - but are pennies each, so are the little MB6S bridge rectifiers if you buy them in lots of 50.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 07, 2022 7:25 am    Post subject: Re: LED replacement bulbs for Bay Window Transporters Reply with quote

ToolBox wrote:
http://auto-hub.com/

LED bulbs for Porsche and VW instrument and interior lighting.


ToolBox, have you bought LEDs from them before and if so, are you happy with the product?
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 07, 2022 7:29 am    Post subject: Re: LED replacement bulbs for Bay Window Transporters Reply with quote

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I did replace the incandescent bulbs with LEDs in my camper light. I can see tomorrow, that is how bright they are. I also put an LED in my overhead dome light. It is quite bright. I bought these LEDs from www.superbrightleds.com.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 08, 2022 5:47 am    Post subject: Re: LED replacement bulbs for Bay Window Transporters Reply with quote

One thing to remember is that you should try to purchase exterior LED bulbs specified for operation over e.g. 6v to 24v . Because this means they will have a proper voltage regulator built in to the system. Often the headlamp regulator is a separate module in the wiring.

They are usually more expensive than the basic LED bulbs.

Cheap LED lamps have stacks of 3 LED chips in series with a dropper resistor. They will be specified for 12 volts only.
These have the characteristic that if the supply voltage drops to 10 volts the current through the LEDs drops to about 1/3 of that at 12 volts.
So any supply ripple, brake light voltage drop and the LED headlamps will dim badly.
Going the other way, at 15 volts the current through the LEDs will double and the heat produced by the resistor goes up by a factor of 4.. resulting in melted solder, smoke and short lived LEDs.
This is because the stack of three LEDs drops about 9 volts, fairly constant once the LEDs light up, the remainder of the (supply volts - 9 volts) is dropped by the resistor which heats up.

On eBay / Amazon comparing prices is a good guide. For indicator and tail light bulbs the better 6-24v regulator can be built in ; on one of mine the regulator module is 1/4" square.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 22, 2022 8:47 pm    Post subject: Re: LED replacement bulbs for Bay Window Transporters Reply with quote

mikedjames wrote:
Cheap LED lamps have stacks of 3 LED chips in series with a dropper resistor. They will be specified for 12 volts only.
These have the characteristic that if the supply voltage drops to 10 volts the current through the LEDs drops to about 1/3 of that at 12 volts.
So any supply ripple, brake light voltage drop and the LED headlamps will dim badly.
Going the other way, at 15 volts the current through the LEDs will double and the heat produced by the resistor goes up by a factor of 4.. resulting in melted solder, smoke and short lived LEDs.
This is because the stack of three LEDs drops about 9 volts, fairly constant once the LEDs light up, the remainder of the (supply volts - 9 volts) is dropped by the resistor which heats up.


FWIW: This technote popped up on another forum showing an easy, efficient way to drive LEDS from an unstable power source. Food for thought...
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 23, 2022 7:39 am    Post subject: Re: LED replacement bulbs for Bay Window Transporters Reply with quote

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ToolBox wrote:
http://auto-hub.com/

LED bulbs for Porsche and VW instrument and interior lighting.


ToolBox, have you bought LEDs from them before and if so, are you happy with the product?


An unfortunate follow up:

I took a chance on auto-hub.com (aka Starbrite) since the company caters to Volkswagen people. I placed an order for instrument cluster LEDs on June 7th. Because mail moves so slowly these days, I have been patient for my order to arrive, which it never has (as of June 23). My emails have not been responded to and phone calls go directly to voicemail, of which none of my calls have been returned. So I felt it was necessary to open a dispute with PayPal. PayPal forwarded my complaint to them and still they have not responded. I use the pronoun "they," but I really believe this is a single man operation. Now I will have to wait until mid-July before PayPal will issue me a refund. Nowhere on their site do they announce that they would be closed for the month of June (or otherwise on vacation). Let this serve as a warning for anyone considering buying from this business.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 10, 2022 4:45 pm    Post subject: Re: LED replacement bulbs for Bay Window Transporters Reply with quote

The final follow-up:

PayPal attempted to contact www.auto-hub.com a.k.a. StarBrite and apparently the vendor never responded to PayPal either, so PayPal refunded my $43.25 today.

As I said before, I believe this is a one man operation and something must have happened to this man. This is sad and unfortunate, but I say this business should be eliminated from anybody's future consideration.

I have had great luck with www.superbrightleds.com over the past few years. I just wanted to support this StarBrite business since he catered to Volkswagens.
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