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Niedersachse
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Hi, fellow baywindow-owners!
My 1978 Westy has the combined code „VT4“ on its plate. VW couldn‘t help. But Alexander from T2 IG finally helped me out 
Deciphered combined code VT4 according to Alexander:
032: Lockable cap for fuel tank
094: Lockable engine lid
102: Rear-window heating
161: Seats in cabin with mountings for headrests
511: Padded dashboard and dashboard lid (not for RHD)
551: Halogen headlamps
Apparently the first owner ordered everything the options list had to offer. My M-Plate is packed (VT04 Z21 073 181 184 206 227 506 793). And the Helsinki interior has all the closets and knick-knacks that money could buy from Westfalia. I guess, summer of 1978 was fun for him or her. Like it was for me, I started school that very summer 
Thank You, Alexander!
P. S.: It seems that combined code Z21 is deciphered a little bit odd. Z21 combines Z01 (571 652 659) and Z05 (025 162 507 616). But all the codes from Z05 aren‘t showing in the decoded list. But 102, witch is a feature of VT4 is there. And code 181 in 1978 is still chrome plated hubcaps (according to VW). As a thing owner, I think code 181 should be something witch is flat green, but anyway...
Okay. Enough code-talk, already. I hope I didn't mess up all the numbers.
Greetings,
Lars
See the VW birth certificate here:
http://www.bustagebuch.de/geburtsurkunde.html
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furgo
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| Posted: Sat Dec 14, 2019 2:26 am Post subject: Re: M-Plate decoder 2019 feedback and updates |
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Oh wow, thanks so much Lars for contributing back with this, and thanks Alexander for the original research!
I've updated the database to include your code:
https://vw-type2-id.xyz/mplate/82097784
Out of 760 M-plates submitted so far, you seem to be the only lucky owner of a bus with this code:
https://vw-type2-id.xyz/mplate/search/?q=vt4
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| P. S.: It seems that combined code Z21 is deciphered a little bit odd. Z21 combines Z01 (571 652 659) and Z05 (025 162 507 616). But all the codes from Z05 aren‘t showing in the decoded list. But 102, witch is a feature of VT4 is there. And code 181 in 1978 is still chrome plated hubcaps (according to VW). As a thing owner, I think code 181 should be something witch is flat green, but anyway... |
Thanks for the feedback. I'll try to look into this over the weekend.
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Niedersachse
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| Posted: Sat Dec 14, 2019 6:11 am Post subject: Re: M-Plate decoder 2019 feedback and updates |
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Out of 760 M-plates submitted so far, you seem to be the only lucky owner of a bus with this code. |
I‘ve noticed that also. Made me think I never would find out what it means. A sage green unicorn. Feeling very happy now . It‘s good, that Alexander got the microfiches that Volkswagen otherwise would’ve used as landfill. Suckers.
@furgo: Thank you for taking the efford to revive the generator (What? No thumbs-up smiley?).
Besides, the little virtual m-plate shows up like this:
I think, maybe it‘s a Safari issue? Using iPad pro with ipad os 13.1.3.
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furgo
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| Posted: Sun Dec 22, 2019 4:02 am Post subject: Re: M-Plate decoder 2019 feedback and updates |
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| Niedersachse wrote: |
| @furgo: Thank you for taking the efford to revive the generator (What? No thumbs-up smiley?). |
Thank you for contributing to the decoder and making it better for other users.
| Niedersachse wrote: |
| It seems that combined code Z21 is deciphered a little bit odd. Z21 combines Z01 (571 652 659) and Z05 (025 162 507 616).But all the codes from Z05 aren‘t showing in the decoded list. But 102, witch is a feature of VT4 is there. |
I've updated the database to correct this. It has now been fixed for all 6 M-plates with the Z21 code: https://vw-type2-id.xyz/mplate/search/?q=z21
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Besides, the little virtual m-plate shows up like this:
I think, maybe it‘s a Safari issue? Using iPad pro with ipad os 13.1.3. |
You're right, it seems to be a browser-specific issue. So far I had only tested it with Firefox and Chrome, both on desktop and on mobile.
It seems like browsers based on Apple's Webkit (e.g. Safari) have an issue rendering the SVG file I use to dynamically create the M-plate image. I'll have to investigate if there is a workaround for them.
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Fairmounter
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It sounds like a great idea.
However I cannot enter mine
It seems a previous owner already did
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Fairmounter
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It sounds like a great idea.
However I cannot enter mine
It seems a previous owner already did
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vwwestyman
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furgo
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| Fairmounter wrote: |
It sounds like a great idea.
However I cannot enter mine
It seems a previous owner already did |
In that case, and assuming the PO entered it correctly, your M-plate should be available on this URL: 'https://vw-type2-id.xyz/mplate/CCCCCCC', where CCCCCCC is the shortened chassis number, as explained on https://vw-type2-id.xyz/mplate/decode/
Thanks for another great contribution. The decoder now recognizes the Wild Westerner color combination.
Note: I just did a quick search (https://vw-type2-id.xyz/mplate/search/?q=d32) and your Wild Westerner seems to be the only one that has been submitted to the decoder so far (it's my understanding that while not a means to identify them, Wild Westerner's had at least M-code D32, which can be used as a way to find them using the M-plate decoder's search function).
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lexicek007
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| I just want to say thank you! for me it works like a dream! Good job! Thanks. |
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jtauxe 
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I just added another Wild Westerner...
https://vw-type2-id.xyz/mplate/32206796
I've also added a few others from my web page:
http://vw.tauxe.net
1972 Sportsmobile
https://vw-type2-id.xyz/mplate/22052431
The 1979 named Snickers seems to have an unknown color code, T1E9:
Panama Brown over Agate Brown
https://vw-type2-id.xyz/mplate/92049235
1974 Westfalia automatic, which also had an "unknown" color code of 9925, but is pastel white (L90D) top and bottom...
https://vw-type2-id.xyz/mplate/42072984
I have more, but would need to consult my records.
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furgo
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| lexicek007 wrote: |
| I just want to say thank you! for me it works like a dream! Good job! Thanks. |
You're welcome, the feedback is appreciated!
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furgo
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Excellent. Comparing the two Wild Westerner submitted to the site:
https://vw-type2-id.xyz/mplate/32205972
https://vw-type2-id.xyz/mplate/32206796
• They are 824 VINs apart
• They are one production day apart (May 17 vs May 18, 1973)
• Both came to the US via Portland
• One is a seven-seater, the other is a nine-seater
This is impressive, great job at documenting all of your busses over the years. Thanks for sharing that.
Added it to the database, it should now display the correct color on the plate and on the summary.
I believe that was a mistyped code while entering the M-plate info. Looking at your bus page at http://www.tauxe.net/vw/auto74westy/index.html, the paint code on the M-plate seems to be 9926 (which is indeed pastel white L90D), and not 9925.
I can update the M-plate entry for you on the site if you wish.
Thanks again for contributing to identifying more bus codes!
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VNic6503
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| Posted: Wed Feb 05, 2020 12:03 am Post subject: Re: M-Plate decoder 2019 feedback and updates |
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| Hi, i plugged my M-code plate in and it said that my may 22, 1969 bus was pearl-white originally, but the samba's chart said that they stopped making pearl white buses in 1968. I don't know if the decoder is wrong or the chart is wrong. Otherwise it was very helpful. Good work. |
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jtauxe
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| furgo wrote: |
I believe that was a mistyped code while entering the M-plate info. Looking at your bus page at http://www.tauxe.net/vw/auto74westy/index.html, the paint code on the M-plate seems to be 9926 (which is indeed pastel white L90D), and not 9925.
I can update the M-plate entry for you on the site if you wish.
Thanks again for contributing to identifying more bus codes! |
Yes, please! And thanks for catching that.
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Kaefer1967
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| Posted: Fri Feb 21, 2020 2:09 pm Post subject: Re: M-Plate decoder 2019 feedback and updates |
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Hallo,
erst einmal vielen Dank für Deine Mühen, den M-Plate-Decoder wieder zum Laufen zu bringen !
Ich habe leider einen M-Code falsch eingegeben, den ich gerne korrigieren würde oder auch komplett neu eingeben würde.
Könntest Du bitte den Code für 82041903 wieder löschen?
Vielen Dank im voraus !
Grüsse aus der Lüneburger Heide von
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molenari
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I hope I can help to improve the tool with the following. I noticed something else when looking at the explanation of the codes:
Two things about code 736:
- For some reason Volkswagen called the M-codes in the range 700-799 'S-codes'. In the VW literature they are written like 'S736' instead of 'M736'. The 'S' is for 'Sonderausführung'. However, they are always mentioned along the M-codes and I think you can see them as M-codes. Just like M-codes they give a further detail in what way the bus differs from the standard version.
- The other thing is the explanation of the meaning of the code. I have noticed that especially the S-codes are 'model year sensitive'. The meaning given here for code S736 on this 1973 Wild Westerner is actually the meaning it holds for model year 1979* and was only used on type 27's (ambulances) in that year. The meaning for S736 on model year 1973 is 'Special sales campaign for "Wild Westerner" '**
*) The meaning given for the 1979 model year is perhaps also valid for other model years. However, so far I have only seen it in a VW document for the 1979 model year.
**) The meaning given for the model year 1973 hasn't been found in any document for as far as I know. But all the information and research given here on the forum can lead to no other conclusion in my opinion. (https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=527392) For as far as I know the name "Wild Westerner" (not code S736) has only been found on an original window sticker that came with one of the vehicles when it was sold to the first owner. Without that document we wouldn't have known the name. (https://www.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/969383.jpg)
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furgo
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| Posted: Sun Feb 23, 2020 5:19 pm Post subject: Re: M-Plate decoder 2019 feedback and updates |
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Replies inline for the few last messages on the thread:
| VNic6503 wrote: |
| Hi, i plugged my M-code plate in and it said that my may 22, 1969 bus was pearl-white originally, but the samba's chart said that they stopped making pearl white buses in 1968. I don't know if the decoder is wrong or the chart is wrong. Otherwise it was very helpful. Good work. |
Thanks for the feedback. If you tell me which M-plate you entered and which Samba chart you were looking at, I can have a closer look.
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| furgo wrote: |
I believe that was a mistyped code while entering the M-plate info. Looking at your bus page at http://www.tauxe.net/vw/auto74westy/index.html, the paint code on the M-plate seems to be 9926 (which is indeed pastel white L90D), and not 9925.
I can update the M-plate entry for you on the site if you wish.
Thanks again for contributing to identifying more bus codes! |
Yes, please! And thanks for catching that. |
Great, fixed it for you after I saw your reply => https://vw-type2-id.xyz/mplate/42072984
| Kaefer1967 wrote: |
Hallo,
erst einmal vielen Dank für Deine Mühen, den M-Plate-Decoder wieder zum Laufen zu bringen !
Ich habe leider einen M-Code falsch eingegeben, den ich gerne korrigieren würde oder auch komplett neu eingeben würde.
Könntest Du bitte den Code für 82041903 wieder löschen?
Vielen Dank im voraus !
Grüsse aus der Lüneburger Heide von
Michael |
Hi Michael,
Ich habe deinen M-Code von 052 auf D52 korrigiert
https://vw-type2-id.xyz/mplate/82041903
Grüße
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furgo
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| Posted: Sun Feb 23, 2020 6:14 pm Post subject: Re: Code S736 and S-codes in general |
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| molenari wrote: |
I hope I can help to improve the tool with the following. I noticed something else when looking at the explanation of the codes:
Two things about code 736:
- For some reason Volkswagen called the M-codes in the range 700-799 'S-codes'. In the VW literature they are written like 'S736' instead of 'M736'. The 'S' is for 'Sonderausführung'. However, they are always mentioned along the M-codes and I think you can see them as M-codes. Just like M-codes they give a further detail in what way the bus differs from the standard version.
- The other thing is the explanation of the meaning of the code. I have noticed that especially the S-codes are 'model year sensitive'. The meaning given here for code S736 on this 1973 Wild Westerner is actually the meaning it holds for model year 1979* and was only used on type 27's (ambulances) in that year. The meaning for S736 on model year 1973 is 'Special sales campaign for "Wild Westerner" '**
*) The meaning given for the 1979 model year is perhaps also valid for other model years. However, so far I have only seen it in a VW document for the 1979 model year.
**) The meaning given for the model year 1973 hasn't been found in any document for as far as I know. But all the information and research given here on the forum can lead to no other conclusion in my opinion. (https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=527392) For as far as I know the name "Wild Westerner" (not code S736) has only been found on an original window sticker that came with one of the vehicles when it was sold to the first owner. Without that document we wouldn't have known the name. (https://www.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/969383.jpg) |
Thanks so much for your feedback to improve the decoder, it's really appreciated. Without your excellent book and research, the site would not exist.
To address each one of the points:
a. Good catch. The website is supposed to refer to S-codes with the "S" prefix instead of "M" when it decodes an M-plate. In some cases it was not doing it. I've fixed it now. => https://vw-type2-id.xyz/mplate/32205972
b. That's an easy one, as it's a simple database addition. The M-code search shows the meaning of each M-code per year, including this addition => https://vw-type2-id.xyz/mplate/search/?q=736 (used in only two M-plates so far)
As an aside, I've been keeping track of the M-plates that contain unknown M-codes. Ultimately, I want to show them in a page on the website, but for now, I regularly generate reports such as this one:
http://dpaste.com/3D3PA9B
Notes:
• The list might also contain false positives (e.g. the user mistyping an M-code)
• There are quite a few unknown codes that come from French busses (10% of the site's M-plates were destined to France)
Finally, the decoder has recently seen its 1000th submitted M-plate (!) (ca. 1100 now as listed on https://vw-type2-id.xyz/mplate/). It all started as a side, hobby project to decode my own M-plate and to make it useful to others, and I'd never thought it would see this level of attention. Thanks to everyone who has been using it so far: it has helped improve the decoder for everyone else and its also building a historical record of our busses along the way.
One of the things that I want to do with this data is to show it as diagrams on the site. This will still take some time, so in the meantime I thought I'd share a couple of data points in raw form in case they can be interesting to someone:
Destination country/region breakdown (includes all M-plates submitted to the site as of today):
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USA: 517 (52.7%)
Germany: 109 (11.1%)
France: 104 (10.6%)
United Kingdom: 39 (4.0%)
Canada: 36 (3.7%)
The Netherlands: 24 (2.4%)
Italy: 20 (2.0%)
Belgium: 15 (1.5%)
Greece: 15 (1.5%)
Sweden: 14 (1.4%)
Austria: 14 (1.4%)
Switzerland: 9 (0.9%)
Paraguay: 7 (0.7%)
Finland: 7 (0.7%)
Europe: 6 (0.6%)
Panama: 6 (0.6%)
Spain: 5 (0.5%)
Norway: 5 (0.5%)
Denmark: 3 (0.3%)
Thailand: 3 (0.3%)
Chile: 2 (0.2%)
Australia: 2 (0.2%)
Argentina: 2 (0.2%)
Portugal: 2 (0.2%)
Far East: 2 (0.2%)
Ireland: 1 (0.1%)
Mexico: 1 (0.1%)
Iceland: 1 (0.1%)
Reunion: 1 (0.1%)
Indonesia: 1 (0.1%)
Bolivia: 1 (0.1%)
Madagascar: 1 (0.1%)
Algeria: 1 (0.1%)
Yugoslavia: 1 (0.1%)
Middle East: 1 (0.1%)
Europe West: 1 (0.1%)
British New Guinea: 1 (0.1%)
Philippines: 1 (0.1%) |
Model year breakdown (includes all M-plates submitted to the site as of today):
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1971: 139 (12.7%)
1972: 128 (11.7%)
1970: 106 (9.7%)
1968: 105 (9.6%)
1979: 95 (8.7%)
1978: 91 (8.3%)
1973: 90 (8.2%)
1974: 76 (6.9%)
1969: 74 (6.7%)
1976: 74 (6.7%)
1977: 69 (6.3%)
1975: 50 (4.6%) |
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molenari
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| Posted: Sat Feb 29, 2020 6:02 am Post subject: Re: Code S736 and S-codes in general |
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| Thanks so much for your feedback to improve the decoder, it's really appreciated. Without your excellent book and research, the site would not exist. |
Thanks, Alexander Prinz and I did the work together. 
And beside the research: the result wouldn't have been what it is without forums like TheSamba and enthousiasts sharing the codes of their buses! I also think the decoder you made gives a good idea of what is out there, links that can be made and what needs more research!
| furgo wrote: |
As an aside, I've been keeping track of the M-plates that contain unknown M-codes. Ultimately, I want to show them in a page on the website, but for now, I regularly generate reports such as this one:
http://dpaste.com/3D3PA9B
Notes:
• The list might also contain false positives (e.g. the user mistyping an M-code)
• There are quite a few unknown codes that come from French busses (10% of the site's M-plates were destined to France) |
Great overview! One of the first things I noticed is M043. I also noted it in the past. Curious code. Found only on 1968 models exported to several different countries. On the splitbus it stands for "Swiss specifications". But looking at the export destinations I can't imagine the meaning would be the same for 1968 bay windows.
| furgo wrote: |
| One of the things that I want to do with this data is to show it as diagrams on the site. This will still take some time, so in the meantime I thought I'd share a couple of data points in raw form in case they can be interesting to someone: |
Thanks! keep up the good work!
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molenari
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| Posted: Sat Feb 29, 2020 9:03 am Post subject: Code P33 for 1973 |
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| furgo wrote: |
As an aside, I've been keeping track of the M-plates that contain unknown M-codes. Ultimately, I want to show them in a page on the website, but for now, I regularly generate reports such as this one:
http://dpaste.com/3D3PA9B |
I was going through your list and came accross the unknown code 'P33'. So far I only saw this code on 1973 Westfalia campmobiles exported to the United Kingdom. (destination codes: EN (Ramsgate, England) and EL (Leith, Scotland))
At this moment 3 buses seem to match this description on your website:
https://vw-type2-id.xyz/mplate/search/?q=p33
I think this one contains an error and should be a 1973 bus:
https://vw-type2-id.xyz/mplate/12131357
The reason:
- the 'Sonderlackierung' is of the 1972 and later format.
- it matches exactly with the other 1973 buses that have P33
But then: what do you correct? We can't ask the person that entered the code to take a second look at the plate 
And this one might prove that code P33 was also used in 1971. At least very interesting to see the codes of a bus with an exotic destination like 'Réunion'  :
https://vw-type2-id.xyz/mplate/12067140
'P'-codes in general
The codes starting with 'P' are usually Westfalia campmobile variations from model year 1971 onwards. I noticed they show up on the Mplate when the Westfalia ID-tag shows the text 'Campmobile 70'. This appears to be the case for most Westfalia's that were meant for export.
For the West-German market the Westfalia ID-tag shows the SO-number and there is no mention of a 'P'-code on the M-plate.
Well, at least that is what I have seen so far.
Code P33:
What Westy interior it stands for exactly I don't know. Probably the RHD-version of the regular Westfalia interior for model year 1973. Sometimes these 'P'-codes are mentioned in the instruction manual or in the brochure.
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currently starring in my fleet:
'68 panelvan, '70 kombi, '71 panelvan, '76 crew cab (German army), '77 panelvan, '78 kombi, '78 microbus (Champagne Edition II), '78 highroof panelvan (German mail, parting out), '79 panelvan automatic, '79 panelvan (armoured money transporter), '68 Karmann Ghia type 34. |
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