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edhnb Samba Member
Joined: December 02, 2011 Posts: 229 Location: El Dorado Hills, California
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Posted: Sun Feb 28, 2021 8:24 am Post subject: Engine install - prep |
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My engine has been out for about 4 years. It has been covered and stored in a fine climate, but has not been touched for 4 years.
The engine only has about 4k miles on it and was in good shape
when removed.
I have a couple questions:
1. Are there any essential things I need to do before reinstalling the engine? Does sitting for that long cause certain things to need replacement?
2. Is there anything I can upgrade/do while it is out to give it a little more power? I am already installing new injectors, but is there anything else that can give it more "pep"?
Thanks _________________ 1977 Asi Riviera |
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Wildthings Samba Member
Joined: March 13, 2005 Posts: 50352
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Posted: Sun Feb 28, 2021 2:03 pm Post subject: Re: Engine install - prep |
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If you have carbs that had gas left in them then they need to be torn down and cleaned. I would worry about any fuel left in the tank, you should drain the tank, inspect it, and clean as necessary.
I would crank the engine with the plugs removed until the oil pressure builds up before trying to start it. I might even prefill the oil galleys through the port for the oil pressure switch.
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Starbucket Samba Member
Joined: April 30, 2007 Posts: 4026 Location: WA
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Posted: Sun Feb 28, 2021 4:20 pm Post subject: Re: Engine install - prep |
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You drive a bus for unobstructed view of the road ahead, don't worry about the 40 cars behind you they missed up and got fast expensive cars and SUVs and all they can see is the back of the vehicle in front of them, don't ruin it! |
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tractoman Samba Member
Joined: January 05, 2005 Posts: 221 Location: Sonoma, CA
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Posted: Sun Feb 28, 2021 4:55 pm Post subject: Re: Engine install - prep |
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If you are injected, replace all the fuel lines, paint the tins, check and replace the crank seal and clutch if they are not in excellent shape. Make sure the gas tank is clean inside. Replace any and all rubber above the tank for venting while you have access. _________________ Mike
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orwell84 Samba Member
Joined: May 14, 2007 Posts: 2539 Location: Plattsburgh, New York
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Posted: Sun Feb 28, 2021 5:11 pm Post subject: Re: Engine install - prep |
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Unless you are planning on building a higher displacement engine or changing the cam, the best thing you can do for pep is to get what you have tuned up and running well. A neglected engine will run like shit but it’s a different beast when it’s out right and tuned up. |
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timvw7476 Samba Member
Joined: June 03, 2013 Posts: 2206 Location: seattle
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Posted: Sun Feb 28, 2021 6:00 pm Post subject: Re: Engine install - prep |
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the clutch. the disc can bond to the flywheel/pressure plate after sitting, I'd go so far as taking it apart, making sure you've got enough lining left to go a good while. and those fuel hoses, if they are not pliable ditch the works.
nobody ever reported back here how much fun they had putting their engine fire out. Last thing brake fluid, if it sat four years that goes too.
maybe tires are last, those don't get younger as time goes by. now I'm done.: ) |
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edhnb Samba Member
Joined: December 02, 2011 Posts: 229 Location: El Dorado Hills, California
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Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2021 10:55 am Post subject: Re: Engine install - prep |
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Thanks for the replies everyone. This was a full restore, so everything was removed and is being replaced and or cleaned. The only thing not disassembled was the engine due to it being fresh. My concern was mainly about the innards of the engine, and what could possible corrode or dry up. It sounds like that is not an issue. I will follow Wildthings advice above regarding the oil pressure etc...
I also read that pretty much everyone recommends installing the transmission and engine together at the same time. What are the advantages of this? I was going to do them separately so I would have room to reassemble all of the wiring, heater ducting, etc.. and then put the engine in.
It is really that much harder installing the engine with the trans already installed?
Thanks again.
Nick _________________ 1977 Asi Riviera |
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Starbucket Samba Member
Joined: April 30, 2007 Posts: 4026 Location: WA
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Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2021 1:35 pm Post subject: Re: Engine install - prep |
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Well since the trans has a mount at the front and the other mount is on the motor you would have to support the trans and then try to connect the motor with everything wiggling around, think about it. It can be done but what a hassle. |
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Wildthings Samba Member
Joined: March 13, 2005 Posts: 50352
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Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2021 6:07 pm Post subject: Re: Engine install - prep |
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I never pull the engine and tranny as a unit as I have zero problems mating them with the tranny already installed. Most people would shun my method, but it was something I came up with decades ago, when I had zero shop tools and a driveway I couldn't have rolled a floor jack on if I had had one to use. |
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aeromech Samba Member
Joined: January 24, 2006 Posts: 16971 Location: San Diego, California
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Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2021 7:52 pm Post subject: Re: Engine install - prep |
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Until I actually removed the engine and transmission together as an assembly I never believed that it would be easier... but it was. The T4 engine needs about another inch of clearance to install by itself. Without that inch a lot of the rear tin and oil spout, etc need to be off or there will be interference. When installed together they basically raise straight up into the bus. _________________ Lead Mechanic: San Diego Air and Space Museum
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