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Xevin Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Sep 24, 2019 8:46 am Post subject: 200 miles on new engine. Opinions wanted. |
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I’ve done some research on break in philosophy and like most things. There are a lot of opinions on the topic. I’m curious what the collective opinion is on what I’m planning.
What I’ve done so far. 200 miles of driving mixed terrain, lots of hills and spirited driving. At 200 miles dropped oil, adjusted valves, re torque, etc. Everything looks great. I’m not looking for opinions on Break in procedure, already been down that rabbit hole. Looking for opinions if it’s wise to now take the bug up the freeway 100 miles (Rolling hills) to my other home in Olympia. Then drive it around more miles mixed terrain the following day. Then day 3 drive back down freeway back to Portland. I’m on the fence if it’s to early for a long stretch of Freeway. Thanks. _________________ Keep on Busin'
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richparker Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Sep 24, 2019 9:13 am Post subject: Re: 200 miles on new engine. Opinions wanted. |
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I’d think you’d be fine to take the trip. Personally I’d run it for another 1000 miles then change the oil, adjust the valves and re-torque. Have a fun trip and drive it hard! _________________ __________
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Cusser Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Sep 24, 2019 9:19 am Post subject: Re: 200 miles on new engine. Opinions wanted. |
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richparker wrote: |
I’d think you’d be fine to take the trip. Personally I’d run it for another 1000 miles then change the oil, adjust the valves and re-torque. Have a fun trip and drive it hard! |
I also think you should take it. VW manuals stated to drive a brand new VW normally, not to baby it. _________________ 1970 VW (owned since 1972) and 1971 VW Convertible (owned since 1976), second owner of each. The '71 now has the 1835 engine, swapped from the '70. Second owner of each. 1988 Mazda B2200 truck, 1998 Frontier, 2014 Yukon, 2004 Frontier King Cab. All manual transmission except for the Yukon. http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=335294 http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=335297 |
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sled Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Sep 24, 2019 9:26 am Post subject: Re: 200 miles on new engine. Opinions wanted. |
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drive it like you stole it. _________________ drive your split. |
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Xevin Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Sep 24, 2019 9:48 am Post subject: Re: 200 miles on new engine. Opinions wanted. |
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sled wrote: |
drive it like you stole it. |
Yep. That’s what we’ve been doing the first 200 miles. Was sure if was a good idea to drive 70mph for 100 miles and back. I appreciate the feedback all.
Random Question. The engine has no problem getting up to 80mph. I had a lot of pedal left. I was really tempted to stomp on the pedal and see what it could do. Was thinking it might be to early to do that Again, I’ve been driving it “Like I stole” except top speed in 4th. For a goof I was thinking about putting it on a Dyno after 1000 miles or so. _________________ Keep on Busin'
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vwracerdave Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Sep 24, 2019 9:49 am Post subject: Re: 200 miles on new engine. Opinions wanted. |
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Drive it like you stole it.
People who say you must baby an engine the 1st 1000 miles don't have any balls. If you did something wrong what difference does it matter if it breaks with 1587 miles or 201.
Drive it like you stole it.
PS. I have never re-torqued the head studs on any engine I have ever built. _________________ 2017 Street Comp Champion - Thunder Valley Raceway Park - Noble, OK
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Xevin Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Sep 24, 2019 10:17 am Post subject: Re: 200 miles on new engine. Opinions wanted. |
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vwracerdave wrote: |
PS. I have never re-torqued the head studs on any engine I have ever built. |
Nope. Didn’t do that. Learned that from you all. Just exhaust connections. _________________ Keep on Busin'
67rustavenger wrote: |
GFY's Xevin and VW_Jimbo! |
Clatter wrote: |
Damn that Xevin... |
skills@eurocarsplus wrote: |
I respect Xevin and he's a turd |
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My God! Xevin and I 100% agree |
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clonebug Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Sep 24, 2019 10:28 am Post subject: Re: 200 miles on new engine. Opinions wanted. |
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I was boosting my engine to 10 lbs after less than 20 miles.
Does any new car get driven easy????
Our new VW CC got it’s first oil change at 5000 miles. _________________
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richparker Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Sep 24, 2019 10:33 am Post subject: Re: 200 miles on new engine. Opinions wanted. |
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Xevin wrote: |
Random Question. The engine has no problem getting up to 80mph. I had a lot of pedal left. I was really tempted to stomp on the pedal and see what it could do. Was thinking it might be to early to do that Again, I’ve been driving it “Like I stole” except top speed in 4th. For a goof I was thinking about putting it on a Dyno after 1000 miles or so. |
IDK if I’d want to drive it for extended periods of time above 4500 just yet. If it was mine I’d feel better about it if it had a few thousand miles on it before I gave it the pickle. That’s just me.
If you do dyno it, post those numbers. Not all dynos are created equal, some will yield higher numbers then others. I used a Mustang dyno twice and the guy called it “the heartbreaker.” They input your vehicle into the Mustangs computer and it applies a drum brake to create resistance to simulate real driving conditions. Other dynos do not do this.
Have a fun and safe trip! _________________ __________
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AlmostHeavenWV_VW Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Sep 24, 2019 10:45 am Post subject: Re: 200 miles on new engine. Opinions wanted. |
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I wouldn't drive it like you stole it......
Drive it like Xatie:
"that a cop?"....... "Nope."
*Xatie downshifts and punches the throttle* _________________ 1973 Standard Beetle
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Xevin Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Sep 24, 2019 11:06 am Post subject: Re: 200 miles on new engine. Opinions wanted. |
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Damn. Now you all know who wears the pants in the family
AlmostHeavenWV_VW wrote: |
I wouldn't drive it like you stole it......
Drive it like Xatie:
"that a cop?"....... "Nope."
*Xatie downshifts and punches the throttle* |
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Zundfolge1432 Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Sep 24, 2019 11:23 am Post subject: Re: 200 miles on new engine. Opinions wanted. |
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Look at my avatar thats how you can drive. I’ve got maybe 5 thousand miles on that engine now and it runs great no worries. |
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Brian Samba Moderator
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Posted: Tue Sep 24, 2019 12:18 pm Post subject: Re: 200 miles on new engine. Opinions wanted. |
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Drive that thing like a bat out of the gas station with some cheese sticks in your pants _________________ Wash your hands
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Xevin Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Sep 24, 2019 12:49 pm Post subject: Re: 200 miles on new engine. Opinions wanted. |
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Brian wrote: |
Drive that thing like a bat out of the gas station with some cheese sticks in your pants |
What about burn outs _________________ Keep on Busin'
67rustavenger wrote: |
GFY's Xevin and VW_Jimbo! |
Clatter wrote: |
Damn that Xevin... |
skills@eurocarsplus wrote: |
I respect Xevin and he's a turd |
SGKent wrote: |
My God! Xevin and I 100% agree |
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mark tucker Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Sep 24, 2019 1:23 pm Post subject: Re: 200 miles on new engine. Opinions wanted. |
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I do first oil/filter change after 35 min run tyme. then 2nd oil&filter change after another 1 hour. then third after about 2 more hours of fun tyme ( fun driving like I stole it after the first oil change& cool down& valve adjustment.) do not over rev (limit rpm to 5500 rpm) the engine till it has atlaeast 10 heat cycles, for valve spring's breakin. make sure the engine is properly tuned on the 2nd day. |
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oprn Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Sep 24, 2019 3:48 pm Post subject: Re: 200 miles on new engine. Opinions wanted. |
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Many years ago I rebuilt the engine in my '71 SB, finished it and started/tuned it late in the evening. The next morning my Buddy and I left for a 8 hour one way drive for a one week vacation in the next province. Zero issues!
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67rustavenger Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Sep 24, 2019 5:06 pm Post subject: Re: 200 miles on new engine. Opinions wanted. |
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Xevin wrote: |
What about burn outs |
Xevin, June 2nd, I drove my 67 to Woodburn. About 50 miles from Hillsboro.
You witnessed me doing 2, 1/4 mile runs at full throttle 90+ thru the traps on the second run.
At the end of the day I drove back to Hillboro, another 50 miles. That day had no affect on my less than 1000 mile engine.
In fact, the week before that June day. I did a run where the speedo needle was pointed straight down in top gear.
With the care that went into Finn's engine. I wouldn't hesitate to drive the car to Olympia and back any weekend.
Wait, Isn't that car Xaties? She should be driving it while you're relegated to the subi DD.
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Xevin Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Sep 24, 2019 5:33 pm Post subject: Re: 200 miles on new engine. Opinions wanted. |
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67rustavenger wrote: |
Xevin wrote: |
What about burn outs |
Wait, Isn't that car Xaties? She should be driving it while you're relegated to the subi DD.
Good Luck. |
I was busting Brian’s balls about burnouts. He has a penchant for putting the foot down fast but since you put it that way 67rustavenger I feel need to
Try. I wonder if it even can and Yes hopefully Xatie will be the one driving it back down. Thanks buddy. _________________ Keep on Busin'
67rustavenger wrote: |
GFY's Xevin and VW_Jimbo! |
Clatter wrote: |
Damn that Xevin... |
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I respect Xevin and he's a turd |
SGKent wrote: |
My God! Xevin and I 100% agree |
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67rustavenger Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Sep 24, 2019 5:44 pm Post subject: Re: 200 miles on new engine. Opinions wanted. |
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Yeah. Unless the car is prepped for burn outs/hard launch's.
I would not try that! Bad things happen to good transmissions.
Mine was prepped for hard launch's and I still needed a new trans after breaking the side gear teeth off.
Just enjoy a good driver and have fun with it.
Good Luck. _________________ I have learned over the years.
Cheap parts are gonna disappoint you.
Buy Once, Cry Once!
There's never enough time to do it right the first time. But there's always enough time to do it thrice.
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