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sinclair
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 Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2019 9:28 am Post subject: Can this industrial engine be dated. |
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My 52 received a nos Industrial engine a couple of years ago. Can it be dated from the number? And what’s the spec. Anyone know?
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fes
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| Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2019 10:02 am Post subject: Re: Can this industrial engine be dated. |
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From what I can tell in the Technical section here https://www.thesamba.com/vw/archives/info/industrialdating.php
Looks like July 1955..36HP
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| Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2019 10:48 am Post subject: Re: Can this industrial engine be dated. |
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Many parts have date codes. You can looks at the top of the condenser for one.
This one has 034 which is;
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sgmalt46
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| Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2019 11:41 am Post subject: Re: Can this industrial engine be dated. |
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on the side of the generator stand. distributor side. there should be 3 #'s in circles . month/ day/ and year. the #'s in the technical section does not show industrial numbers. I don't think ?
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fes
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| Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2019 1:16 pm Post subject: Re: Can this industrial engine be dated. |
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on the side of the generator stand. distributor side. there should be 3 #'s in circles . month/ day/ and year. the #'s in the technical section does not show industrial numbers. I don't think ?
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It does.. I fixed my link that I posted earlier
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sinclair
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| Posted: Thu Oct 03, 2019 12:22 am Post subject: Re: Can this industrial engine be dated. |
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nlorntson
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| Posted: Thu Oct 03, 2019 6:00 am Post subject: Re: Can this industrial engine be dated. |
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| sgmalt46 wrote: |
| on the side of the generator stand. distributor side. there should be 3 #'s in circles . month/ day/ and year. |
Just to remember that is simply the casting date of the case. It could be before or after the date the engine was actually produced. |
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slalombuggy
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| Posted: Thu Oct 03, 2019 3:27 pm Post subject: Re: Can this industrial engine be dated. |
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| sgmalt46 wrote: |
| on the side of the generator stand. distributor side. there should be 3 #'s in circles . month/ day/ and year. |
Just to remember that is simply the casting date of the case. It could be before or after the date the engine was actually produced. |
Pretty hard to produce an engine before the case is cast 
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nlorntson
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| Posted: Thu Oct 03, 2019 4:02 pm Post subject: Re: Can this industrial engine be dated. |
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Pretty hard to produce an engine before the case is cast
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Yes, production for sure, but for example a case for a 25hp engine was cast in 1956. In this example (a true one at that) the casting date was much later than the production of the 25hp engine. |
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tasb
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| Posted: Fri Oct 04, 2019 3:46 am Post subject: Re: Can this industrial engine be dated. |
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The distributor badge looks like it says BR 25. That distributor was produced from late 1959 through the 1960 model year. the badge design eliminates it as a 1955 ish distributor.
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| Posted: Fri Oct 04, 2019 3:49 am Post subject: Re: Can this industrial engine be dated. |
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| Glenn wrote: |
Many parts have date codes. You can looks at the top of the condenser for one.
This one has 034 which is;
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2nd quarter of 1970.
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Kjell Roar
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| Posted: Sat Oct 05, 2019 10:56 pm Post subject: Re: Can this industrial engine be dated. |
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| tasb wrote: |
| The distributor badge looks like it says BR 25. That distributor was produced from late 1959 through the 1960 model year. the badge design eliminates it as a 1955 ish distributor. |
The BR25 was later renamed by Bosch to 010, a very good distributor when running Twin carb setup.
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Frederik
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| Posted: Tue Dec 17, 2019 4:19 pm Post subject: Re: Can this industrial engine be dated. |
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Sorry for lifting an old thread, but didn't the engine number get interpreted wrong?
A (0)9000 serial (after the 122 industrial coding) might have been july 1955 but this is a 5 digit (0)90000 serial, 122-099501 = more likely a 1961 36hp industrial engine (and fits better with the fuel pump, br25 and other parts on it.
Here's another one for you (just bougt it but haven't got it jet).
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sinclair
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| Posted: Wed Dec 18, 2019 1:09 am Post subject: Re: Can this industrial engine be dated. |
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| Frederik wrote: |
Sorry for lifting an old thread, but didn't the engine number get interpreted wrong?
A (0)9000 serial (after the 122 industrial coding) might have been july 1955 but this is a 5 digit (0)90000 serial, 122-099501 = more likely a 1961 36hp industrial engine (and fits better with the fuel pump, br25 and other parts on it.
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Thats interesting. I did check the date circles on the stand, first one being 25 which equates to 1955 I thought? |
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Frederik
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| Posted: Wed Dec 18, 2019 10:53 am Post subject: Re: Can this industrial engine be dated. |
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| First date circle should be Day. So 25 XX ZY is the 25th of XX (month) and Y (year), Z being shift. Post a photo. However the engine number 090000 is way to high to be a 55, my 021000 above should be a June/Juli 1956 |
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sinclair
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| Posted: Wed Dec 18, 2019 12:40 pm Post subject: Re: Can this industrial engine be dated. |
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10/6/25
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Frederik
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| Posted: Wed Dec 18, 2019 12:50 pm Post subject: Re: Can this industrial engine be dated. |
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The ones I have are stamped from the bottom up. On this they are facing the other way/ the numbering is mirrored (turned 180 degrees), but I think you should reed it as 25 6 01 as in 25th of june 1961 or possible 25th of June 1st shift 1960.
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sinclair
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| Posted: Wed Dec 18, 2019 1:05 pm Post subject: Re: Can this industrial engine be dated. |
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| Frederik wrote: |
| The ones I have are stamped from the bottom up. On this they are facing the other way/ the numbering is mirrored, but I think you should reed it as 25 6 01 as in 25th of june 1961 or possible 25th of June 1st shift 1960. |
Mmm. Not sure I buy that but willing to stand corrected. |
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Frederik
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| Posted: Wed Dec 18, 2019 1:21 pm Post subject: Re: Can this industrial engine be dated. |
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Whats the left case half date code? Does the case have a oil drain plug (not the one in oil strain cover)?
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Frederik
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| Posted: Thu Dec 19, 2019 5:02 am Post subject: Re: Can this industrial engine be dated. |
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60s 36hp have no oil drain plug in the case but have the casting for it
A -55 should have the oil drain plug in the case
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