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IAMGROOT Samba Member
Joined: February 17, 2022 Posts: 1 Location: GA
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Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2022 8:49 am Post subject: Re: Late Bay heater cable connection |
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SGKent wrote: |
the factory cut the sheath about 1" down from the top of the cable so the housing floats. It helps balance the defrost to walk thru. Colin did a write up on it if you can find it. I don't recall if it was here or his own site. |
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=646866
The best write up I found regarding the Balance is this one. When the dash defrost lever is moved it is also affecting the diverter under the walkthrough (front of cab or passenger benches). The defroster is designed to operate ONLY after the under floor diverter is in the Front of Cab only position. The diverter cable is adjusted to reach its maximum flow position about halfway through the dash lever position. The remaining travel of the dash lever does not affect the diverter (as the internal cable then passes through its guide hole with no lever action under the bus if it is adjusted correctly). At halfway, the dash lever then engages the defroster flap to move sending max airflow from the heat exchangers all the way through to the windshield. |
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SGKent Samba Member
Joined: October 30, 2007 Posts: 41031 Location: Citrus Heights CA (Near Sacramento)
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Posted: Sun Feb 21, 2021 10:11 pm Post subject: Re: Late Bay heater cable connection |
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the factory cut the sheath about 1" down from the top of the cable so the housing floats. It helps balance the defrost to walk thru. Colin did a write up on it if you can find it. I don't recall if it was here or his own site. _________________ “Most people don’t know what they’re doing, and a lot of them are really good at it.” - George Carlin |
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Whaanga Samba Member
Joined: May 07, 2016 Posts: 629 Location: Rochester, NY
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Posted: Sun Feb 21, 2021 9:03 pm Post subject: Re: Late Bay heater cable connection |
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You’ll have to cut the slit yourself if you want that feature; it operates the defrost fine as is.
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What is the purpose for cutting the slit in the cable sheathing? I've seen a few comments about this, but don't quite understand, 1) the proper location of the slit, 2) the functionality of this cut.
Thank You,
Jeff _________________ Late 1973 Bay w/a transplanted 914 Engine |
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SGKent Samba Member
Joined: October 30, 2007 Posts: 41031 Location: Citrus Heights CA (Near Sacramento)
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Posted: Sun Feb 21, 2021 5:06 pm Post subject: Re: Late Bay heater cable connection |
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motorcycle cable lube works wonders even on a new cable. _________________ “Most people don’t know what they’re doing, and a lot of them are really good at it.” - George Carlin |
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airschooled Air-Schooled
Joined: April 04, 2012 Posts: 12728 Location: on a bike ride somewhere
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Posted: Sun Feb 21, 2021 4:32 pm Post subject: Re: Late Bay heater cable connection |
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Not likely. The new cable from BusDepot works fine for the defrost tree. You’ll have to cut the slit yourself if you want that feature; it operates the defrost fine as is.
Robbie _________________ Learn how your vintage VW works. And why it doesn't!
One-on-one tech help for your Volkswagen:
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Jerrys76 Samba Member
Joined: April 08, 2014 Posts: 24 Location: Winter Park, CO
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Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2021 12:05 pm Post subject: Re: Late Bay heater cable connection |
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stevespeirs wrote: |
Snapped cable for the left red heat distribution lever. There appears to be a spring with a "U"-shape at the end of the cable. Is this integral to the cable, or a separate component?
View looking up from underneath the dash facing the rear of the vehicle.
Any help appreciated! |
Just discovered that I've got the same snapped cable. Can it be soldered? |
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Wildthings Samba Member
Joined: March 13, 2005 Posts: 50352
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Posted: Wed Dec 23, 2020 4:13 pm Post subject: Re: Late Bay heater cable connection |
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The defroster cable is badly overloaded. I looked at dozens of vans in wrecking yards years ago before I found one that wasn't broken. If you disconnect the cable to the center tube diverter valve and just wire the valve the way you want then the defroster cable will have very little load on it and last many decades. You can also use a separate cable for the diverter valve as per earlier vans. |
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SGKent Samba Member
Joined: October 30, 2007 Posts: 41031 Location: Citrus Heights CA (Near Sacramento)
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Posted: Wed Dec 23, 2020 2:31 pm Post subject: Re: Late Bay heater cable connection |
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there is a right and a left cable on a 1973-79. You are looking for the RIGHT one based on the first photo. A quick Google search gave me 5 to 8 places selling them. The left one has a right angle, the right one is a wire loop. You want to measure the old one to make sure you order one the correct length.
https://airheadparts.com/vw-parts/vw-mechanical-pa...ls-cables/ _________________ “Most people don’t know what they’re doing, and a lot of them are really good at it.” - George Carlin |
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SLVRSRFR Samba Member
Joined: October 02, 2008 Posts: 154 Location: Guelph, On, CANADA
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Posted: Wed Dec 23, 2020 12:56 pm Post subject: Re: Late Bay heater cable connection |
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its a broken cable - mine is broken in the exact same spot as the broken one in the first photo in this thread (cable on the far right hand side).
I can find replacement cables with the 90 deg. bend on the end, but not with the spring type connection... _________________ Brian
'78 westy, '64 sedan |
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SGKent Samba Member
Joined: October 30, 2007 Posts: 41031 Location: Citrus Heights CA (Near Sacramento)
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Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2020 11:59 am Post subject: Re: Late Bay heater cable connection |
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Is the core broken or the sheath? VW cut the sheath by design. It s part of how it balances. Use a motorcycle cable lubricator system to lube the cables. Motorcycle store will have them or you can go online. _________________ “Most people don’t know what they’re doing, and a lot of them are really good at it.” - George Carlin |
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stevespeirs Samba Member
Joined: June 10, 2008 Posts: 310 Location: Virginia Beach, VA
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Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2020 11:29 am Post subject: Re: Late Bay heater cable connection |
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SLVRSRFR wrote: |
I am also looking for a replacement cable with the spring end on it - does anyone know if they are available? |
I sold my Bus earlier this year. Is this the cable?
https://www.serial-kombi.com/en-GB/recherche/q=211711647C
I know I ordered a lot of stuff from Serial Kombi, so might be worth browsing their site. |
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SLVRSRFR Samba Member
Joined: October 02, 2008 Posts: 154 Location: Guelph, On, CANADA
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Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2020 11:01 am Post subject: Re: Late Bay heater cable connection |
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I am also looking for a replacement cable with the spring end on it - does anyone know if they are available? _________________ Brian
'78 westy, '64 sedan |
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Bigjacksauto Samba Member
Joined: June 18, 2018 Posts: 225 Location: Syracuse NY
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Posted: Mon Dec 09, 2019 11:20 am Post subject: Re: Late Bay heater cable connection |
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Steve did you ever find the cable with the spring built into it? _________________ https://www.facebook.com/groups/2778888602388847/?ref=share
1968 Beetle "Herbie" replica Father Son Project
1960 Beetle deluxe / Flint/Pebble Grey og 1200cc 36hp
1975 Westfalia bus sold
1967 SO 42 Westfalia Bus
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stevespeirs Samba Member
Joined: June 10, 2008 Posts: 310 Location: Virginia Beach, VA
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Posted: Wed Oct 16, 2019 9:16 am Post subject: Re: Late Bay heater cable connection |
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Apologies for the poor pic. Looked at the 4th heater cable (2nd red lever) and the "U"-bend appears to be part of the cable. Are they available for purchase like that?
_________________ 1979 Microbus |
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pioneer1 Samba Member
Joined: February 11, 2008 Posts: 2069 Location: Ontario Canada
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Posted: Wed Oct 16, 2019 9:09 am Post subject: Re: Late Bay heater cable connection |
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It is a separate spring clip. Take it off to see. Note* the cable broke for a reason so follow the cable ...could be rusted heater part _________________ "Always waiting for tomorrow ruined everything"
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stevespeirs Samba Member
Joined: June 10, 2008 Posts: 310 Location: Virginia Beach, VA
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Posted: Wed Oct 16, 2019 8:44 am Post subject: Late Bay heater cable connection |
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Snapped cable for the left red heat distribution lever. There appears to be a spring with a "U"-shape at the end of the cable. Is this integral to the cable, or a separate component?
View looking up from underneath the dash facing the rear of the vehicle.
Any help appreciated! _________________ 1979 Microbus |
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